A play on your name.. BorisFrenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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A play on your name.. BorisJesus,the muppet force is not strong with you my friend
.Never give up.When they do eventually go bankrupt, the behind the scenes documentary of this transfer season will be a must see.
Edit: Barca have already sold 50% of the rights to Barcruptcy after reading this.
This is hopefully a reminder that some fans need to temper their expectations. We need to rebuild and it's not going to happen overnight. If a player is picking Chelsea over us then we need to accept that one of the factors has to be the respective clubs' reputations and successes in recent years.
It's embarrassing for the club if we've been holding on for so long and the deal hasn't gone through, but there's too many people who just assume that FDJ would rush to sign for us because we're Manchester United. We've been a volatile club for almost a decade now and until we show some stability and consistency we're always going to be lucky when we get top players, or a top manager like Ten Hag, rather than it being the norm.
Give it a couple of years when we're knocking feckers off their perches again before we just assume we will get this class of player by default, but until then we can't just expect success otherwise we'll never be happy or get anywhere.
It's embarrassing for the club if we've been holding on for so long and the deal hasn't gone through, but there's too many people who just assume that FDJ would rush to sign for us because we're Manchester United. We've been a volatile club for almost a decade now and until we show some stability and consistency we're always going to be lucky when we get top players, or a top manager like Ten Hag, rather than it being the norm.
Give it a couple of years when we're knocking feckers off their perches again before we just assume we will get this class of player by default, but until then we can't just expect success otherwise we'll never be happy or get anywhere.
I wouldn’t say validating
But as i've said is the news from England or Spain. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that this is Barca taking the piss. It's unlikely, but not impossible.
Chances are Chelsea are in for him, but it doesn't change a thing regarding where we're at now and what will happen in the future. Wages still need to be sorted, and it's possible that he'll just say screw it, and take that pay cut
Without a doubt the weirdest most strange folk on here. Must have the most empty lives to be so desperate to look right on an internet forum.
I don't really see what's changed, to be honest. The financial details of what Barca would accept to let him go were in the open since we agreed the deal. Frenkie would still prefer to stay at Barca, but now he has to choose between us, who have apparently been an okay option and where EtH has assurances that he's interested, or Chelsea, who have been rejected by half of Europe so far in this window. I also think that we'd pay him more than Chelsea would to secure the signing for EtH.
Yeah I don't think I'll ever be able to understand this. It's a beta-male personality trait.
Has your account been hacked? Where are the jokes, the dirty metaphors, the snipes at cina's mum? Not sure I like this version of pigeon
Bum cheeks.
Well it's gonna be pretty embarrassing if he goes to Chelsea but as long as we tried our best i don't see that it matters too much.
Other clubs seems to be rebuilding overnight, look at barcelona and spurs. Lets face facts, the glazers ambition is top 4 only and they couldn't give a flying feck about winning any silverware. Our spending is in line with glazers ambition.
Building a title winning team will not happen overnight or over a decade with glazers at the helm.
Whilst I was very much hoping this happens, I've been sceptical for a while. I think if he wanted to be here, then...Jesus,the muppet force is not strong with you my friend
I feel sorry for the muppet force - I admire you all, even now, but you're really pissing against the wind here.
Both of your examples had hired managers mid season.
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Selling half of your clubs merchandising rights, tv rights and what not isn't exactly rebuilding is it? They're destroying their future for the chance at short term success. It's such a risky tactic and if it goes wrong, they're truly screwed
Good point. It’s a sign of the times. Fans nowadays seem to worry more about saving face than anything. I don’t get it
Rebuilds don't happen overnight but I don't think we could have done a worse job at attempting the first phase of ours so far this summer if we tried.
We signed an inexperienced left back, a free transfer, and another center back, the only position we actually do have enough (albeit not great) players in. Our total net spend so far is about £50m. Even if we did get FDJ that would only take us to about £110-120m, despite the monstrous amount we've saved in wages from the departures we've already had. We're about to go into the first game of the season with, arguably, a weaker team than the one that we finished last season with. We somehow need more of a rebuild now than we did at the beginning of the summer!
Why would anybody be unhappy when the deal was never on in the first place? It’s the overrating of de Jong based on us being linked that should be looked at, not some sort of negative gloating
The people still believing this is happening are like creationists who believe dinosaur fossils were put here to test their faith. Fair play to you all
It's more the fact we've wasted several months chasing a player who had no interest in coming here in the first place. These resources would have been better invested in getting a compatible midfielder in who actually wants to come. We've lost Pogba & Matic. This is simply not good enough.
I'll make sure to remind you about those pearls of wisdom, when FDJ joins and some on here will celebrate "never in doubt" and "knew it all along"
i’m mostly concerned about ensuring our shareholders get maximum value for their stock in our once great club.
Ten hag has been here for many months also.
We did not allow rangnick to buy in the transfer window because he was an interim and now we haven't done shit with a permanent manager.
Im still seething we didn't put in a bid for alvarez when his agent had first offered him to us before flying all over europe for prospective clubs.
The people still believing this is happening are like creationists who believe dinosaur fossils were put here to test their faith. Fair play to you all
That seems wildly extreme. This really isn't dead dead yet. The news today really doesn't change anything.
Once we actually hear more from the De Jong side of things, then it gets spicy.
If Chelsea swoop in and the issue of the $17m is suddenly resolved it'll put a proper downer on the start of the season. Can't the Glazers cough up a bit of their own dough for once to get shit sorted.
My web browser will be pleased to know I’m packing up my stuff and moving to the Neves thread.
Oh yeah there's obviously failings at the club that are the reason why we're so fecked. I'm just surprised at some people who just "expect" us to have players begging to join us. It flies in the face of reality a little and I'm worried that they'll never be satisfied because they're setting the bar so artificially high at the moment. Other clubs doing rebuilds haven't had a decade of mismanagement quite like ours.
Oh no... there might be banter from rival fans and paddy power adverts taking the piss... my life may as well end now....
United have been a laughing stock for about 9 years now. I'm not sure it can be worse than last season on that front and we all survived it. Thicken your skin fellow muppets.
United have been a laughing stock for about 9 years now. I'm not sure it can be worse than last season on that front and we all survived it. Thicken your skin fellow muppets.
It’s finished. I’m already watching Ruiz every tough videos.
no, no it won't
If FDJ goes to Chelsea Woodwards era will look efficient compared to what's happened under Arnold this summer
Last season was worse than the Moyes one and this summer is looking worse than the Summer of Moyes and Fellaini as well
Last season was worse than the Moyes one and this summer is looking worse than the Summer of Moyes and Fellaini as well
Yeah this isn't happening. At the start said it was a dream signing but didn't think there was a chance.... Slowly grew to believe it would happen because of the ten hag link, but clearly our years of shite has had an impact that he just didn't want to come here. How we chased him for so long only for him to go elsewhere is pathetic really. We'll see if there is any last minute twist, but if he goes there, then it'll truly be shambolic from us.
God created the dinosaurs aswell.The people still believing this is happening are like creationists who believe dinosaur fossils were put here to test their faith. Fair play to you all
Oh god yeah, which is always why I've found it so hilarious that so many people in this thread have been adamant for months that FDJ was a done deal.
Also, sad, and I'm sad too, because a small part of me hoped the club may have finally learnt from past mistakes and knew what they were doing with this transfer. Alas, that looks unlikely
It's the same in a lot of things. US politics most of all. They'll defend the worst things they can imagine if it helps them look like they were right all along. It's a very bad trait that humanity needs far less of. The best way to deal with it is to not vilify people when they change their mind / admit they were wrong or misled. Gotta praise people who "see the light".
Personally for de Jong, I don't mind if we get him or not. I voiced my opinion earlier about my apprehension at buying from other "big clubs" - it's something that I don't see as having any history of success with United. I always prefer the free transfers or the buys from "lower tier" teams and I feel that all our best players in the past 22 years have been exactly that. I'd be happy to see more Malacia-esque deals being made in the coming weeks, personally.
We actually still have quite a while until the window shuts, but I can't see us doing all that business, unfortunately. I do think a centre midfielder and winger are imperative, though.
sobering and a reality check for many if he goes to Chelsea....
just a shame the Glazers arent bothered about us being the elite football club in England.
Ten Hag's challenge will be to get us back up there against clubs that are better run and better funded.
Stick to the principles and get the right player at the right price
just a shame the Glazers arent bothered about us being the elite football club in England.
Ten Hag's challenge will be to get us back up there against clubs that are better run and better funded.
Stick to the principles and get the right player at the right price
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