If Chelsea get him so be it. I would honestly give youth a chance than panic buy someone for huge amounts. In fact if we do end up buying the likes of Neves then what ETH said about moving only if the right player comes along is pure bollocks.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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We'll know that's total bullshit if Chelsea can come in with a bid now and get it snapped up in a week or so.
I find it odd people are ok with this
Have we feckOnly way if chelsea sign him,he has to cut down his wages significantly. No way we offer 450 k to him as united offered. If he is willing to cut his wages he will do that and will stay at barcelona.
There is no logic in this rumour otherwise someone forced to make him believe he loves chelsea more than his dream barcelona secretly from young age something like in inception movie.
That can't be healthy
Are the talks of a protest outside the ground this Sunday legitimate?
I'm not surprised at all with the negativity. It's to be expected after all the crap we've gone through in the past, but as it stands, to me, not much has changed.
Another club is trying to sign a player we're in for, they stand as much chance as we do and at the end of the day, the player will decide. There will be a lot more factors at play than just CL, Location etc. It's out of our hands as fans, so theres not much we can do than just strap in and experience the highs and lows as they come.
Fabian Ruiz and SMS for the price of one De Jong sounds good to me.
I'm looking forward to the games against Chelsea, FDJ is bossing McFred whilst getting booed from the United fans.
The issue has been between him and Barca though, so that changes nothing.
So as a non United fan?
United are the bigger club in every sense. United and Liverpool are in that upper tier of English clubs when you consider history, prestige and reputation.
Playing under EtH, playing with Ronaldo, playing in front of 75,000 each week, good money, buying in to being part of the project, wanting to be the main man?
If he’s only bothered about CL football and living near London then feck him. Who cares?
Scenes when McT bullies him 90 minutes (or at least until he's send off)
The first Chelsea links were over a month ago. People are only acting like this has just happened out of nowhere because it's finally been reported by someone that everyone agrees is reliable in Ornstein.
I think all this Chelsea talk is simply a gossip that is being spread by Laporta (by feeding media) to bump up price and make MU to pay more. There is not much time left for Barca to make a deal (10 days?). It's like a poker game - who blinks first.
How would you do it differently if you wanted FdJ?
fecking embarrassing
It’s humiliating for the club now, we can’t hide from that fact.
We chased a player for months, who had no interest whatsoever in moving to us, and now he will ultimately join a rival.
Nothing has changed at United, and it’s just embarrassing.
We chased a player for months, who had no interest whatsoever in moving to us, and now he will ultimately join a rival.
Nothing has changed at United, and it’s just embarrassing.
Not in my lifetime.
Only way if chelsea sign him,he has to cut down his wages significantly. No way we offer 450 k to him as united offered. If he is willing to cut his wages he will do that and will stay at barcelona.
There is no logic in this rumour otherwise someone forced to make him believe he loves chelsea more than his dream barcelona secretly from young age something like in inception movie.
Will he not be concerned that he will just end up a squad player at Barcelona?
Surely not a Man United fan saying garbage like this?
This would make sense if you weren’t jumping on every negative story about de Jong for the last 3 months? Not being funny but it is a bit rich.
Not even having a go, it’s just there has never been anything tangible about the move to Utd for a long time. No news seemed to mean good news yet here we are.
Still hope we sign him but it never felt real to me.
Morning all. Not worried about Chelsea, this will be a done deal soon. Stay strong muppets.
I will dip in to say one thing. The way people say “Surely FDJ would never string ETH along like this!” And “They will have been in constant communication throughout this entire thing” with such confidence really cracks me up.
You would swear ETH is his father or something
He was his manager for 2 whole years. He practically is his dad at this point.
Will not happen.
Barca still owe him €17M which they do not want to pay
Barca could accept a bid from every club under the sun, still doesn't mean he'll move.
Chelsea would have to be in cahoots to keep stum on that. So barca beat Chelsea to a player, then use Chelsea's name to make united up their offer, but at the same time make Chelsea looks like they have missed out on a target again? Makes sense
I don't think moving the club to London and sneaking their way into the Champions League draw was really an option though, was it?
Haven't United already agreed a deal with the club? The hold up seems to be on these much-talked-about deferred wages/payments that FdJ is owed. The word is that he doesn't want to leave Barcelona, and certainly not without his owed money.
I'm not sure United chucking cash at Barcelona is going to make a whole lot of difference at this point. It's real on Frenkie and where he wants to go, and also on Barcelona and these deferred wages. That seems to be where we're stuck.
Is it still true Barca can't register players without selling De Jong?
If the issue is between de Jong and Barca, then Chelsea being in for him makes no difference to that. The issues are still going to be there. If them issues get resolved then it's a straight shootout between United and Chelsea. Where does he feel he'd progress better?
There's no news about a move to United because de Jong as his team have said nothing at all for the past couple of months. Everything had been media speculation so we don't know what's actually being said and the sorts
Nothing to do with him. It’s Murtoughs remit.
That's correct if you consider that Barcelona and De Jong haven't been negotiating an exit strategy for more than a month.
Yes we didn't, but my point is the personal terms were never the obstacle. We were reported to be offering same as what he was receiving at Barca. The issues with this transfer were all due to external factors outside of the clubs control. There are many times we can criticise the club, but I just don't think this is one of them.
She just said Neves and Renato Sanches were our back ups to FDJ yesterday despite Sanches never playing as an "anchor" as she put it before. Since then Sanches has been confirmed to PSG. Why exactly is she considered reliable?
So Sport were right after all! Promote them to tier 1.
It makes no sense for United to still be after FDJ unless he or his agent made it clear to ETH that he wants to join. If he ends up joining Chelsea then it's true that we were pushing for a player that didn't want to join. Forget the embarrassing part because honestly I don't care, but it's somewhat negligent to waste most of the summer trying to sign a player without assurances that he wants to join. Only time will tell.
Murtough definitely knew the Chelsea news would break soon while grinning.
The other aspect of this is Barca want both Azpi and Alonso from Chelsea. Who knows what kind of tinkering could be done to make the deal more attractive?
It's not though. Because the issue of Barca and FDJ has been going on for weeks. It had been reported a number of times that Chelsea were waiting and monitoring the issues to see if they can be resolved. They must have received some encouragement in that it could be resolved, hence they've officially started negotiating. It's not like Chelsea have magically done something that we weren't able to. Still no guarantee Chelsea can get him as well. But all along, both Utd and Chelsea had no control over the speed of this transfer.
I hope chelsea do Barca in this de Jong saga and make them believe we will pay them 100 mn euros for his signing and his deferred wages but make sure it will never reach them.Chelsea would have to be in cahoots to keep stum on that. So barca beat Chelsea to a player, then use Chelsea's name to make united up their offer, but at the same time make Chelsea looks like they have missed out on a target again? Makes sense
De Jong will stay there and they can't able to register their players like raphinha kounde and lewa. Any one can dream.
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