Josep Dowling
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The club doesn’t learn. If Chelsea get him everything I have put in this thread and have been vilified for by others will be justified.
But this is exactly the point: we shouldn't live or die by the managers' knowledge of players. That's why clubs have scouting networks and directors of football and all that fancy stuff. It shouldn't all be down to the manager and the manager alone.He wasted the whole summer chasing FDJ. His only knowledge of players seems to be those he has coached or those who have played in the dutch league.
This season is now in disaster territory already due to his failure to improve the squad.
When you spell it out, we literally have no right, like none whatsoever, to be competing this season.And Chelsea could have Kovacic, Kante, Jorginho and De Jong, even someone like RLC is a better option than most of the midfielders we have.
CongratulationsThe club doesn’t learn. If Chelsea get him everything I have put in this thread and have been vilified for by others will be justified.
AttackWell, shit dude. No need to attack the guy for not knowing what you meant
No, what we'll see is if that is an actual issue for him at all.Sadly, have a feeling that things will move quickly now that a Champions League level club is in for him.
London living is so overrated. That’s why most Chelsea players lives in Surrey or outside the M25. They train in cobham anyways
So whats actually been said in the article? Are Cheslea negotiating a fee or are they just considering it at this moment in time?
I do wonder if it'll make a difference, or whether ten Hag actually had any idea this was going to happen. Still, it'll be interesting to see where United go from here. Will they pull out if a fee is agreed between Chelsea and Barca or do they still believe they're favourites
That's not what you asked though, is it?
how many players did virtually everyone agree we needed? I don't remember it being three... but hey, close your eyes and do a Boris Johnson impersonation and pretend everything is wonderful. just don't expect everyone to play that gameSigned 3 players you mean
MoanMouse strikes again
Chelsea are talking to Barca about De Jong and are confident of striking a deal with them. Apparently something about De Jong preferring to live in London was also mentioned in an Athletic article but I've just seen that through the Twitter account UtdPlug, and haven't verified if it was from Ornstein, a separate article or if it even exists.So whats actually been said in the article? Are Cheslea negotiating a fee or are they just considering it at this moment in time?
I do wonder if it'll make a difference, or whether ten Hag actually had any idea this was going to happen. Still, it'll be interesting to see where United go from here. Will they pull out if a fee is agreed between Chelsea and Barca or do they still believe they're favourites
I'm not really sure what else we are supposed to do?Nah, mate, sorry, but I don't see it that way. I suspected De Jong might be taking us and Ten Hag for a ride a while ago and posted here as much. Everybody lies. If I, a random poster on a random internet forum, can suspect as much, then surely the people who are getting paid thousands to make these decisions should have also suspected it? If not, then it it points to naivety and incompetence and that they are out of their depth, which makes them unfit to be in their positions. The issue is this isn't something novel around here. It's been the norm for a decade.
So, is it over Berba? Do we move on to Neves?Attack
to be fair, it's not - short distance from west london on the M25 (when the traffic is moving)I didn't realize that Cobham was that far. It reminds me as a kid going to watch theLondonWasps, they had nothing to do with London.
"Utd remain quite confident"So whats actually been said in the article? Are Cheslea negotiating a fee or are they just considering it at this moment in time?
I do wonder if it'll make a difference, or whether ten Hag actually had any idea this was going to happen. Still, it'll be interesting to see where United go from here. Will they pull out if a fee is agreed between Chelsea and Barca or do they still believe they're favourites
He wasted the whole summer chasing FDJ. His only knowledge of players seems to be those he has coached or those who have played in the dutch league.
This season is now in disaster territory already due to his failure to improve the squad.
He wasted the whole summer chasing FDJ. His only knowledge of players seems to be those he has coached or those who have played in the dutch league.
This season is now in disaster territory already due to his failure to improve the squad.
London living is so overrated. That’s why most Chelsea players lives in Surrey or outside the M25. They train in cobham anyways
fecking get a gripYup. He's let the club down, hopefully this experience humbles him and he doesn't overstep his mark from now on (that's if he makes the next summer window)
The club doesn’t learn. If Chelsea get him everything I have put in this thread and have been vilified for by others will be justified.
Some people have played too much Football Manager and think that the manager handles everything from transfer negotiations to setting ticket prices.That's not his job ffs
If we've really spent the whole summer identifying alternatives to De Jong and the best the club can come up with is Neves, who will probably cost as much as him, then we are truly a disgrace of a club and deserve the failure. I really, really hope he's not the backup.So, is it over Berba? Do we move on to Neves?
No, what we'll see is if that is an actual issue for him at all.
Champions League is a temporary thing, it obviously changes from season to season
I know I’m knee jerking cause I don’t want to see him at Chelsea - rather he stay at Barca!You've quickly changed your tune. The other day you were telling me to be patient about our window and that the club were doing the right thing holding out for him
I agreeIf we've really spent the whole summer identifying alternatives to De Jong and the best the club can come up with is Neves, who will probably cost as much as him, then we are truly a disgrace of a club and deserve the failure. I really, really hope he's not the backup.
According to Ornstein, Chelsea are negotiating a fee directly with Barca and are optimistic that a deal can be agreed.
Cheers guys.Chelsea are talking to Barca about De Jong and are confident of striking a deal with them. Apparently something about De Jong preferring to live in London was also mentioned in an Athletic article but I've just seen that through the Twitter account UtdPlug, and haven't verified if it was from Ornstein, a separate article or if it even exists.
And Chelsea could have Kovacic, Kante, Jorginho and De Jong, even someone like RLC is a better option than most of the midfielders we have.
No.So, is it over Berba? Do we move on to Neves?
Why does it feel that the image of these two linen clad men will still haunt us in 5 years time. Will be hard to live down for them.
While I do think Chelsea look more likely to be successful in the future, the two clubs' league performance over the last five seasons look pretty much identical.United only qualify for the competition one season in two. Chelsea won the thing in 2021. It's night and day, unfortunately.
That's definitely the most important thing about this entire saga.The club doesn’t learn. If Chelsea get him everything I have put in this thread and have been vilified for by others will be justified.
London living is so overrated. That’s why most Chelsea players lives in Surrey or outside the M25. They train in cobham anyways
Mctominay and Fred aren't the only players we have capable of playing in Central midfield, and they're nowhere near as bad as it's made out on here. I have faith in this manager's ability to improve players, and I saw enough of garner last season to know that he has the ability to make it here.How exactly does that get us into top 4 with McFred playing every week though?
Look at Richard Keys over hereThe club doesn’t learn. If Chelsea get him everything I have put in this thread and have been vilified for by others will be justified.