Why are people acting like this isn`t the same information from this morning?
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Why are people acting like this isn`t the same information from this morning?
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Not especially. He’s the Barca Athletic guy but whenever I’ve listened to him I’ve never left feeling he has any particular insight.
Guys before you go all soppy brained again let’s engage those brains and think logically. Do you honestly think ETH would have them there hanging in without receiving some sort of assurances/encouragement? All this other shot is being pumped out by Barca’s side. They are trying to make him say that he wants to leave so he’d forgo any bonuses etc plus they are trying to drag out any potential other buyers
The Athletic is just like anyone else. I care about WHO has reported it more than the company name. Ornstein and Whitwell in particular.
Plus we’ve known for weeks he’d prefer Barca. How does this change anything?
Plus we’ve known for weeks he’d prefer Barca. How does this change anything?
Absolutely despise is more accurate, so as one of the uber confident ones what is finally going to tip this in our favour then
Worst.
Saga.
Ever.
Saga.
Ever.
This is a test for us muppets.
Some unreliable athletic report won't derail me.
Some unreliable athletic report won't derail me.
Been told from who, because its certainly not from de Jong
From what I know Dermot Corringan is reliable with Spanish News but mostly Madrid.
How correct am I? @mazhar13
How correct am I? @mazhar13
So todays developments:
FDJ doesn’t really get a funny tummy feeling when thinking about ETH.
FDJ doesn’t really get a funny tummy feeling when thinking about ETH.
Yeah leaves out doesn't want to leave because knows he won't get paid otherwise
Even with a reliable outlet like the Athletic reporting it, some people will still bury their head in the sand until the club either brief that it's over or the window closes with nothing happening.
I used to think think he would join, but it's been clear for a while now that isn't going to be the case
According to the app this article was published 9 hours ago.
Doesn't seem to be any inside information or source behind the Dermot Corrigan article. It's just speculation and pro-Barca propaganda from another outlet looking for clicks.
"From the Barcelona dressing room, a move from Barcelona to Manchester United seen as a step down" - from De Jong? No, they do not say this. "From the Barca dressing room"
"De Jong is likely to share Ronaldo's view on playing in the Europa League." - this is just speculation
"The Atlhetic has been told he did not have a particularly special relationship with ETH." - completely vague statement and they have been told by who? Frenkie?
"From the Barcelona dressing room, a move from Barcelona to Manchester United seen as a step down" - from De Jong? No, they do not say this. "From the Barca dressing room"
"De Jong is likely to share Ronaldo's view on playing in the Europa League." - this is just speculation
"The Atlhetic has been told he did not have a particularly special relationship with ETH." - completely vague statement and they have been told by who? Frenkie?
Automatic ban for the 14.4% of non-believers. On the other hand, special tag ( promotion) for the believers. All this is subject to whatever happens before the 1st of September.
What is embarrassing for us about this car crash of a situation?
Embarrassing would be if in 3 weeks time FDJ eventually decides to leave Barcelona and we've already spent our money on Tielemans and FDJ joins other club. If the board overruled ETH along the way and bought anther player it would be a disaster.
We have to stay put until the matter is resolved either way. If ETH wants to gamble we gamble.
Embarrassing would be if in 3 weeks time FDJ eventually decides to leave Barcelona and we've already spent our money on Tielemans and FDJ joins other club. If the board overruled ETH along the way and bought anther player it would be a disaster.
We have to stay put until the matter is resolved either way. If ETH wants to gamble we gamble.
Yes and I posted direct quotes from the article from a Utd aggregator account on Twitter but there wasn`t any negative reception to it.
Almost as if people have taken things at face value instead of reading the details
The athletic is great and all but the best spanish sources don't go there. He's an English speaking Spanish source for the athletic. Just like the athletic won't have the best sources for Madrid/Bayern/Ajax/Juve etc. The Athletic is the best for premier league clubs, but past that, nothing special I would say.
Doesn't seem to be any inside information or source behind the Dermot Corrigan article. It's just speculation and pro-Barca propaganda from another outlet looking for clicks.
"From the Barcelona dressing room, a move from Barcelona to Manchester United seen as a step down" - from De Jong? No, they do not say this. "From the Barca dressing room"
"De Jong is likely to share Ronaldo's view on playing in the Europa League." - this is just speculation
"The Atlhetic has been told he did not have a particularly special relationship with ETH." - completely vague statement and they have been told by who? Frenkie?
I mean, they're not that unlikely scenarios are they?
Barcelona is a step down from Utd, that's the reality of it. Plus it's his dream club.
Why on earth would De Jong - or anyone -choose Europa over CL?
If recent comments are to be believed, he enjoys working with Xavi and maybe his relationship with both him and ETH has a similar pull.
I get that his is all speculative - but isn't everything that anyone's posting either here or largely elsewhere?
No sane journalist would name any sources.Doesn't seem to be any inside information or source behind the Dermot Corrigan article. It's just speculation and pro-Barca propaganda from another outlet looking for clicks.
"From the Barcelona dressing room, a move from Barcelona to Manchester United seen as a step down" - from De Jong? No, they do not say this. "From the Barca dressing room"
"De Jong is likely to share Ronaldo's view on playing in the Europa League." - this is just speculation
"The Atlhetic has been told he did not have a particularly special relationship with ETH." - completely vague statement and they have been told by who? Frenkie?
That's what I'm trying to keep hold of. We must've had some assurances all summer.
Is it just me or does the term "special relationship" make anyone else cringe, I will be having Rolf's cartoon club nightmares tonight having read that
I keep reading posters stating 'FDJ hasn't stated anywhere he doesn't want to join us' My reposte would be: can you show me anywhere he has stated he does wants to join us?
It's time to move on and find someone else, albeit not as good, but surely an improvement on our current CM options! We have wasted the last 10 wks and I fear we will waste the next 5 also.
It's time to move on and find someone else, albeit not as good, but surely an improvement on our current CM options! We have wasted the last 10 wks and I fear we will waste the next 5 also.
Back from my holiday and ready to help steer this muppet train to its final destination. Chooo chooooooo!
Nah. The Athletic is great for the premier league, but the best sources for foreign clubs are from their own native papers, not a random British guy reporting on Barca.
I'd trust what Ornstein, Mitten or Whitwell say on this for the United side of things, and then Gerard Romero will put out what Barca wants to get out. Nobody else is going to get breaking information on this other than them. Sport and all the others are pretty much irrelevant on this.
So if de Jong doesn't have a special relationship with Ten Hag, and hasn't had assurances from him that he'd be open to joining, why is he sticking around knowing this will never happen?
Seems to me like it's gotten so quiet now that people are just speculating on what is going on and theorising why things aren't progressing. It's been reported that de Jong and Ten Hag have been in contact a lot, what's the point if he doesn't want to join??
Seems to me like it's gotten so quiet now that people are just speculating on what is going on and theorising why things aren't progressing. It's been reported that de Jong and Ten Hag have been in contact a lot, what's the point if he doesn't want to join??
The only thing that I can think of is the club surely wouldn't put all it's eggs into this basket, stick in it so long, if there wasn't some internal indication that FdJ would be willing to move.
If it's the case that we've spent the whole summer going for him, only to get rejected by the player once the clubs have agreed terms, then this new-age rebuild for Utd is utter BS and we've essentially wasted a key window.
Given that Ten Hag and the board have prioritized him for so long, you can bet that he is open to joining. We stopped going after Timber right when he made his mind up. We are still pushing for Frenkie. Ten Hag would have spoken to him of course and I'm sure will keep enough contact to know if it's time to move on or not. So as long as we are interested, I don't see a single reason to think he isn't willing to come, if their impasse can be sorted.
Gerard Romero will give Barca's point of view, Mitten/Whitwell will say United's point of view. Everyone else is irrelevant in this, or extrapolating or stretching the truth or repeating the information that those provide.
Yeah that's the only thing keeping me feel positive, just hopes the likes of Whitwell/Ornstein don't retweet this article
Do you not think De Jong could have just been stringing ETH along or at least not being clear enough either way to ensure the interest doesn’t wane from United?
it’s a scummy thing to do, but it’s the smart thing business wise. His situation at Barcelona is extremely sensitive and he would need the protection of knowing there was a second option should it go tits up there (which it very likely will).
Completely shutting off the United avenue leaves him in the situation of Barca or bust, with there being no escape route if Barca don’t budge and thus making him public enemy #1 at Barca. Their disgraceful fans would not make life easy for him.
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Yikes people will keep believing what they want to hear in this thread. I said before it's likely EtH backed himself to persuade Frenkie to join United with the help of Barca, Xavi, Laporta etc helping facilitate the players exit. The manager relationship is very overstated imo, players will put their career first. I still don't think it's over though as Barca must sell him.
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Doesn't seem to be any inside information or source behind the Dermot Corrigan article. It's just speculation and pro-Barca propaganda from another outlet looking for clicks.
"From the Barcelona dressing room, a move from Barcelona to Manchester United seen as a step down" - from De Jong? No, they do not say this. "From the Barca dressing room"
"De Jong is likely to share Ronaldo's view on playing in the Europa League." - this is just speculation
"The Atlhetic has been told he did not have a particularly special relationship with ETH." - completely vague statement and they have been told by who? Frenkie?
As things currently are, Man Utd are a step down from Barcelona. Look at the team Barcelona are going to field next year (probably!). They will be competing for the CL title and the La Liga title. Man Utd will be competing for a Champions League spot. That's the truth of it. It hurts, but let's be realistic.
I know its not Orny but Athletic is not Sport.
They are kinda reliable no matter who authored the article.
Imma be honest its not looking good.
We'll find out soon enough. Journos will start jumping on this within a few hours if its true.
They are kinda reliable no matter who authored the article.
Imma be honest its not looking good.
We'll find out soon enough. Journos will start jumping on this within a few hours if its true.
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