the whole thing is probably absolute bollocks but again there is no denying his ability on the ball and he would be a great mentor and partner to Kobbie
Frenkie De Jong - Part 3?
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To be fair, the City method is to buy KDB, Rodri, and another 3 or 4 midfielders to boot.
But Mainoo drops deep and does defensive work, so that's balance.
I'm conflicted as i think you're probably right there, but I do love Bruno and would be sad to see him phased out. It'll have to happen sometime I suppose, but he definitely doesn't work in a deeper 3, and I doubt he'd flourish in the front 3 unless used as a Firmino-esque false 9? Feels an awkward fit.
Who knows. I don't think we'll ever sign FDJ anyway so doubt it'll be more than a hypothetical.
I don't want us to bother with him again. He and his agent just using our name tj position themselves for more ar Barca or a move else where
Would be a good statement from INEOS.
That would be quite the build up and ability to play out from the back. Licha, de Jong and Mainoo.
No thanks.
You can’t sign players that don’t want to be here, but you can sign plenty that are indifferent and persuaded by the wage or lack of offers elsewhere.
Bending over backwards to get them here and offering a ridiculous wage sets a terrible squad dynamic full of player power.
"if we believe there's even a one percent chance that he wants to come we have to take it as an absolute certainty"
Why is he on so much 
He never lived up to the crazy hype.
He never lived up to the crazy hype.
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Good Lad. Roll on the summer!Im right here by your side mate
Seems like a very very expensive signing BUT it’ll be really hard to replace the leadership and experience those two have once they leave. Replacing Casemiro is going to be harder than I thought. Himself and Martinez are our best players. Finding someone who is as aggressive and as good at the dark arts is going to be hard. I like the look of Onana but Case, even this fading version is going to be such a hard act to follow.
Had your chance, frenkie.
What's news?
Poor man's Mbappe saga
Well they probably do bring leadership and a lot behind the scenes that we don't see but we've seen nothing much from Casemiro since about last Spring. It's yet to be seen if he can get back to last season's form from before the suspension. If he doesn't get back to that level with a run of games til the end of the season we should probably off-load him.
Rampa de sortida?
That’s totally fair but even the last few games we look so much more confident with him in the team. It’s mad how someone comes in past their very best with nothing left to prove and yet straight away becomes the teams most courageous player. What have we been doing in the market for the last 15 years. It’s car crash stuff.
Super player always liked Schneider I mean De Jong. Smacks of that whole saga again
Well it’s unlikely a player on 25m will be forcing his way out of a club he has professed to love in pursuit of higher wages. Firstly, he probably won’t get them here, or anywhere.
There’s no need to paint this pessimistic picture at this point, nobody knows motivations or teams of preference now - it just sounds like normal self-loathing/cad insecurities at this point. Nothing to suggest signing a long term target is ‘returning to the Woodward circus’. We are a big club and allowed to legitimately sign top players.
Frenkie De Sneijder
For a manger who isnt looking to play like Ajax, he sure does like an Ajax player
Great player, but nah.
So, if this is actually true, what clubs are realistic choices? PSG perhaps
Bayern most likely if he wants to win titles and they move on Kimmich. PSG if he wants the money. Could actually see Frenkie to Bayern and Kimmich to PSG (think they've been linked recently) this summer.
Hard pass, dumb wages.
Mainoo and De Jong sounds very interesting.
Mainoo could play as the 6 just as well as he can play as an 8.
I don't think De Jong plays the 6 as well as he does the 8 but it could be a real double pivot.
If 4231/433 with two CMs is the way forward for Ten Hag then I'm intrigued and would take it.
Ultimately De Jong is better than Mount, McTominay and Eriksen as a CM and therefore he is an upgrade.
Mainoo could play as the 6 just as well as he can play as an 8.
I don't think De Jong plays the 6 as well as he does the 8 but it could be a real double pivot.
If 4231/433 with two CMs is the way forward for Ten Hag then I'm intrigued and would take it.
Ultimately De Jong is better than Mount, McTominay and Eriksen as a CM and therefore he is an upgrade.
Would prefer Tchouameni if he became available (of which there are rumours) as I think he would suit our current composition of midfielders better (Tchou-Mainoo-Bruno is perfect tbh).
That being said, if we were open to selling Bruno with De Jong replacing him, we could sign another midfielder to balance things.
That being said, if we were open to selling Bruno with De Jong replacing him, we could sign another midfielder to balance things.
2 years left on De Jongs deal. Looks like Barca want Greenwood and we want De Jong.
Considering De Jongs wages are way higher than Greenwoods we should not allow them to shaft us this time.
£20m plus Greenwood sounds ok. That's only because of his incident otherwise it should be a straight swap based on his potential.
Considering De Jongs wages are way higher than Greenwoods we should not allow them to shaft us this time.
£20m plus Greenwood sounds ok. That's only because of his incident otherwise it should be a straight swap based on his potential.
Nah
We thought Armarbat was the poor man's Frankie. Transformative player. Will change the way we play. Like Onana, he has not come close.
I wonder if Frankie will be the next 'transformative' player? Our biggest issue that needs to be fixed is scoring goals.
Besides the general poor judgement of players by ETH, and the hype associated with his transfers so far; how will Frankie help us score a lot more goals?
Who knows if Frankie will be the next 'transformative'' player but I don't think he will contribute tremendously to our biggest issue. Not the highest priority.
It just seems the hype of a player gets higher & higher. I think the expectations of fans are just getting more & more desperate.
I wonder if Frankie will be the next 'transformative' player? Our biggest issue that needs to be fixed is scoring goals.
Besides the general poor judgement of players by ETH, and the hype associated with his transfers so far; how will Frankie help us score a lot more goals?
Who knows if Frankie will be the next 'transformative'' player but I don't think he will contribute tremendously to our biggest issue. Not the highest priority.
It just seems the hype of a player gets higher & higher. I think the expectations of fans are just getting more & more desperate.
He’s no longer needed now we have Mainoo, it’s a Casemiro upgrade/replacement that’s needed to partner Mainoo long term.
There is absolutely zero chance he'll want to come to us without Champions League football and I'd estimate only around 30% with it.
I don't watch Barca so I don't know about his current standard but, last I heard, Barca fans were happy they didn't up selling because he really upped his game.
I'm keeping up with Getafe this season and they play Barca soon. I'll keep an eye on de Jong if he plays now then.
I'm keeping up with Getafe this season and they play Barca soon. I'll keep an eye on de Jong if he plays now then.
No more ETH players please.
I doubt it. It’s more about Barcelona wants him gone because his salary is too high and has clause that keep increasing every year. All of these news were probably orchestrated by Barcelona so by any luck there are clubs to put a bid and hoping the player can be convinced to leave.
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