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I think he's a good age. Seems a tidy player. But, gun to head, not the type of player to change games for us or take us to the next level.

A solid addition, no doubt. But we need more in CM than just Fred, while keeping Pogba preferably.

The thing I'm not to fussed about, is he doesn't seem either of the things we desperately need. Not a deep-lying Carrick replacement, nor a proper creative attacking threat.
The thing is you don't need the midfielder to come to change the game on his own, we already have that player in Pogba, you have to make the midfield ticking so Pogba can be that player, Fred looks like good fit with his dynamicy style, which would compliment Pogba well, but not only that he's technically gifted, can pass the ball and dribble and likes to win the ball, it is perfect profile of a player playing next to Pogba who can combine with him and be freed up of some defensive work. Looks a decent player on counter too. Him and someone a bit different like R. Neves would be a great summer and midfield sorted for years. However Neves looks to be staying but we should take a punt on some Brazilian, it's been a while!
 
So DC says Sandro and Fred. Would be good to monitor this just so we know how reliable he is on transfer related business.
 
So DC says Sandro and Fred. Would be good to monitor this just so we know how reliable he is on transfer related business.
I recall him being on the mark and equally way off.

DiMarzio is the only one I can recall being pretty consistent
 
Completely different midfielders but if we had to choose Fred Flintstone or SMS?
Fred would probably suit our needs more, but SMS would great us more attacking threat.
 
I don't want Fred I want Milinkovic-Savic it's not fair
 
I don't want Fred I want Milinkovic-Savic it's not fair
Think we could be signing both. Mourinho has been very specific that he needs a Fellaini replacement and SMS has the best qualities of Fellaini with more technique.
 
I recall him being on the mark and equally way off.


DiMarzio is the only one I can recall being pretty consistent
Was the first to callcLindelof last summer. He's hit and mits but I don't think he makes stuff up.
 
When does he team up with the World Cup squad with Brazil? I suppose we want to strike a deal before the World Cup.
 
From the youtube vids he looks like what we lack. If the Times story of us signing 6 and the recent rumours are true we've got - Sandro, Toby, Fred and 3 more to go. Superb lineup that.
NEW RB---Bailly--- Toby--- Sandro
Our defence could easily become one of the best in Europe.
 
From the youtube vids he looks like what we lack. If the Times story of us signing 6 and the recent rumours are true we've got - Sandro, Toby, Fred and 3 more to go. Superb lineup that.
NEW RB---Bailly--- Toby--- Sandro
Our defence could easily become one of the best in Europe.

Bailly is like 5th choice now?
 
If we get Fred, Sandro and Willian there is a distinct possibility we might play some samba football.
 
I don't watch the Ukrainian league, but if he's a true box-to-box mid with lots of energy and tackling ability I can get behind this transfer. Herrera is the only player we have who can play that role (and even then it's only one out of every two or three performances that we see that Herrera these days) but it's vital to have an engine if we're playing a slow, holding mid like Matic and a defensively porous roaming mid like Pogba.
 
I don't watch the Ukrainian league, but if he's a true box-to-box mid with lots of energy and tackling ability I can get behind this transfer. Herrera is the only player we have who can play that role (and even then it's only one out of every two or three performances that we see that Herrera these days) but it's vital to have an engine if we're playing a slow, holding mid like Matic and a defensively porous roaming mid like Pogba.

Think he covered more ground than any other player in the group stage of the CL. In theory he would help us to press better. Worth noting that he is a convicted doper.
 
Think he covered more ground than any other player in the group stage of the CL. In theory he would help us to press better. Worth noting that he is a convicted doper.

Ah, that's very unfortunate. Looks like he tested positive in 2015 for a drug that has no positive effects but could be used to mask PEDs. I wonder if that'll be something that we've looked further into before moving forward on signing him. If he's clean, we could definitely use someone who covers that much ground.
 
I don't want Fred I want Milinkovic-Savic it's not fair

Think we will be getting both. Rejoice my Muppet friend.

SMS is such a Jose signing I'm almost certain it'll happen with absolutely no evidence what so ever.
 
Ah, that's very unfortunate. Looks like he tested positive in 2015 for a drug that has no positive effects but could be used to mask PEDs. I wonder if that'll be something that we've looked further into before moving forward on signing him. If he's clean, we could definitely use someone who covers that much ground.
I presume City dropped their interest after finding out he is clean and not wanting to begin a doping regime ...
 
Not under Mourinho we won't.

Yeah right cause Mourinho teams are totally incapable of playing expansive football! :wenger:

See Real Madrid and in his second stint at Chelsea in first half of his second season.

Wise up!
 
Did anyone see that SMS liked our post on Instgram about Carrick retiring? He's a big fan apparently.

Any midfielder worth their salt would be a big Carrick fan. :)

Carrick was so good! And now he's gone. :(
 
Yeah right cause Mourinho teams are totally incapable of playing expansive football! :wenger:

See Real Madrid and in his second stint at Chelsea in first half of his second season.

Wise up!

It’s not that good tho when you only have 1,5 season of good attacking football after 15 seasons as a manager.
 
It’s not that good tho when you only have 1,5 season of good attacking football after 15 seasons as a manager.

No its not 1,5 seasons. Mourinho is very pragmatic but there were times his teams played very good counter attacking football. Brilliant to watch, unless you're one of them tiki taka purists.
 
No its not 1,5 seasons. Mourinho is very pragmatic but there were times his teams played very good counter attacking football. Brilliant to watch, unless you're one of them tiki taka purists.

Mostly though, it's all a bit dull.
 
No its not 1,5 seasons. Mourinho is very pragmatic but there were times his teams played very good counter attacking football. Brilliant to watch, unless you're one of them tiki taka purists.

Hated the tiki taka bullshit pep had Barcelona playing. Prefer good counter attacking football every day of the week. I know José is capable of it but my hopes are sadly not high after the negative dross his team has served up from time to time lately.
 
The new mention of France in the latest links makes me think there is feck all in this now. The guy just wants the biggest paycheck and we’re just getting mentioned so city bid. It’s not been working so he’s thrown an implication of PSG
 
Completely different midfielders but if we had to choose Fred Flintstone or SMS?
I would choose Fred. Can't say that I watch the Ukrainian league every week, but his playing style would fit us far better than SMS. A midfield trio with Matic, Pogba and Fred looks far more balanced than with SMS. I doubt that we bring in both, we simply can't afford spending 70 mill on a backup midfielder.
 
I would choose Fred. Can't say that I watch the Ukrainian league every week, but his playing style would fit us far better than SMS. A midfield trio with Matic, Pogba and Fred looks far more balanced than with SMS. I doubt that we bring in both, we simply can't afford spending 70 mill on a backup midfielder.

Unless Pogba is on the way out, he has not been a success.
 
not that familiar with Fred. what’s the best YouTube compilation?
 
The new mention of France in the latest links makes me think there is feck all in this now. The guy just wants the biggest paycheck and we’re just getting mentioned so city bid. It’s not been working so he’s thrown an implication of PSG
He's living and playing in the Ukraine, I'm not surprised he's looking for any club that will take him. Can't fault the guy and his agent for looking for the best deal he can get on his way out though.
 
The new mention of France in the latest links makes me think there is feck all in this now. The guy just wants the biggest paycheck and we’re just getting mentioned so city bid. It’s not been working so he’s thrown an implication of PSG

Starting to think the same as you to be honest.
 
He's living and playing in the Ukraine, I'm not surprised he's looking for any club that will take him. Can't fault the guy and his agent for looking for the best deal he can get on his way out though.
Yeah, I’m not faulting him for it, just makes me think we don’t want him as much as suggested.
 
Yeah, I’m not faulting him for it, just makes me think we don’t want him as much as suggested.
Hear you, could be a mercenary but I think he's most likely over the moon he's being linked with the clubs he is and desperately wants a move to one of them.
 
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