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People still hoping for Pogba to be 'freed' :lol:

This is the Pogba replacement, and Pogba is being moved further up the pitch to compete with Lingard and Mata as forwards that drop into midfield. Pogba has shown he doesn't do the basics reliably and so cannot be trusted to run the team.

Matic will mop up the loose balls and cover the spaces in defense. Fred will drive the ball forward and provide incisive passes. Pogba will play as a playmaker against the smaller teams and a third midfielder against the big teams.
 
luke511 said:
Is it me or does his close ball control in tight spaces not look too great?
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I've watched two matches of all his touches in those games now (against City and Roma), and he doesn't strike me as one to play fast-paced football. He looks a bit like a safe-player which is good for some occasions, but our problems are with opening up the small compact teams.

I'm not yet sure he's an improvement on what we already have, but at least he's played in the 8 position and isn't a player shoehorned in. But maybe we need him for a healthy competition in midfield too to make both Matic, McTominay and Herrera up their game. I hope I'm happily surprised.
 
luke511 said:
Is it me or does his close ball control in tight spaces not look too great?
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Not just you. There are quite a few poor touches in his highlight videos that will be punished in a better league. He does have excellent movement on the ball and good close control once he's got the ball under control though.
 
breakout67 said:
People still hoping for Pogba to be 'freed' :lol:

This is the Pogba replacement, and Pogba is being moved further up the pitch to compete with Lingard and Mata as forwards that drop into midfield. Pogba has shown he doesn't do the basics reliably and so cannot be trusted to run the team.

Matic will mop up the loose balls and cover the spaces in defense. Fred will drive the ball forward and provide incisive passes. Pogba will play as a playmaker against the smaller teams and a third midfielder against the big teams.
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Sounds good, right? I hope so at least.
 
Cantonagotmehere said:
Sounds good, right? I hope so at least.
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I don't think its about sounding good, it's about getting the right fit for the system. Pogba can't hack it as an Essien/Khedira type of player so we are getting in someone that can do that.

Pogba will have to try to become a Lampard or Deco type of player now, which is also a better fit for him.
 
breakout67 said:
People still hoping for Pogba to be 'freed' :lol:

This is the Pogba replacement, and Pogba is being moved further up the pitch to compete with Lingard and Mata as forwards that drop into midfield. Pogba has shown he doesn't do the basics reliably and so cannot be trusted to run the team.

Matic will mop up the loose balls and cover the spaces in defense. Fred will drive the ball forward and provide incisive passes. Pogba will play as a playmaker against the smaller teams and a third midfielder against the big teams.
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Sounds great, Pogba might actually be able to gather some consistent form then, he takes too much flak, and is as good as we've got imo.
 
11101 said:
Not just you. There are quite a few poor touches in his highlight videos that will be punished in a better league. He does have excellent movement on the ball and good close control once he's got the ball under control though.
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ROFLUTION said:
I've watched two matches of all his touches in those games now (against City and Roma), and he doesn't strike me as one to play fast-paced football. He looks a bit like a safe-player which is good for some occasions, but our problems are with opening up the small compact teams.

I'm not yet sure he's an improvement on what we already have, but at least he's played in the 8 position and isn't a player shoehorned in. But maybe we need him for a healthy competition in midfield too to make both Matic, McTominay and Herrera up their game. I hope I'm happily surprised.
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We need a cm who's main strength is close control in tight spaces and fast tempo play, that's the thing I'm slightly worried about :lol: He looks like a great signing for the money and is a big upgrade from Herrera etc. but he doesn't come across as the playmaker we're crying out the most for at the moment.
 
buckooo1978 said:
I kinda agree with this

I think the best balance for us would be a Kante and a Kroos - Matic is a nice big lad and all but he's not superb at any of the roles for me - box to box, playmaker, enforcer - he just seems to do them all ok

as for Pogba I hope so - he's the most important player in our team in many ways linking our rigid midfield and defence to a sometimes isolated attack
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Yeh. A Kroos and a Kante would be perfect. I think Matic is similar to Kroos. So the addition of Fred would be a good foil to Matic also.
 
Solius said:
We all said Pogba was the midfielder we'd been missing, then we said Matic was the player we'd been missing and would free up Pogba and now Fred is the player we've been missing. I'll reserve judgement because our style of football seems to mean our midfield has no bearing on our play.
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:lol: This is exactly what I think as well.
 
sorry if posted already but nice video - looks to be a positive energetic player - plenty of forward passing and running

 
Welbeckham said:
Good lord how underwhelming that video of all his touches is.
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Its best to take it as it is.
Fans have a habit of holding on to first impressions. Its why Utd fans were shocked at Bayern fans criticising Thiago in his thread.
Its best to read the opinions of pundits who have seen him play and come to some sort of aggregate conclusion IMO.
 
Can't believe this hasn't been made official yet, just typical of our summer so far, Woody needs to pull his finger out and stop fannying around, we're being left in everyone else's dust.
 
Rado_N said:
Can't believe this hasn't been made official yet, just typical of our summer so far, Woody needs to pull his finger out and stop fannying around, we're being left in everyone else's dust.
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Probably trying to seal a popcorn deal in Dubai or something tbh ridiculous
 
Rado_N said:
Can't believe this hasn't been made official yet, just typical of our summer so far, Woody needs to pull his finger out and stop fannying around, we're being left in everyone else's dust.
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Brazil will play in Liverpool in ten days. Maybe they will announce the deal with Fred in England.
 
Going off his clips he looks fecking mint. He seems to have it all :drool:
 
cyberman said:
Its best to take it as it is.
Fans have a habit of holding on to first impressions. Its why Utd fans were shocked at Bayern fans criticising Thiago in his thread.
Its best to read the opinions of pundits who have seen him play and come to some sort of aggregate conclusion IMO.
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I agree. Most of the times a couple of competitive matches is enough to have some rough idea about a player, but even in this kind of youtube clip I would just expect higher technical quality from anyone we're linked to. But that obviously does not mean he's not good enough. Just that the video failed to present what are his strenghts as a player.
 
breakout67 said:
People still hoping for Pogba to be 'freed' :lol:

This is the Pogba replacement, and Pogba is being moved further up the pitch to compete with Lingard and Mata as forwards that drop into midfield. Pogba has shown he doesn't do the basics reliably and so cannot be trusted to run the team.

Matic will mop up the loose balls and cover the spaces in defense. Fred will drive the ball forward and provide incisive passes. Pogba will play as a playmaker against the smaller teams and a third midfielder against the big teams.
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This sounds pretty much bang on.
 
Anyone know what type of player he is, or who he's comparable to? I mean from more than YouTube clips.
 
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