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One man midfield for most of the game
Love him..never stops running
How did he not get a penalty?
 
We completely dominated the vast majority of the match today though. Indeed I thought it was noticeable that having Fred and Pogba in there together allowed us to dominate them quite a bit more than we normally do. It was only the first 10 minutes and the final 15 that Fulham were in the match at all.
Need to have a read of the match thread to see that isn’t true
 
We had 61% possession. We clearly dominated midfield. Considering how often Pogba and Bruno tend give the ball away that % says a lot about how well Fred played.
Not once did we have a sustained spell were we looked comfortable
 
Need to have a read of the match thread to see that isn’t true
Our match day thread is a complete joke at all times and I haven't read them for seasons. I'll go with what my eyes tell me ahead of that rubbish everyday.

We do struggle to dominate when we use the McFred combo which is why I'm not a fan of that against any but the absolute top teams, but for about 70 minutes today our midfield ran rings around them.
 
Our match day thread is a complete joke at all times and I haven't read them for seasons. I'll go with what my eyes tell me ahead of that rubbish everyday.

We do struggle to dominate when we use the McFred combo which is why I'm not a fan of that against any but the absolute top teams, but for about 70 minutes today our midfield ran rings around them.
Think Fulham had multiple chances to score
Running rings around is a bit silly anyone that isn’t totally biased would say Fulham were in this game for 90 minutes
It was a nervous watch, and a good win
 
Not once did we have a sustained spell were we looked comfortable

I’m starting to think you didn’t actually watch the game. There were only two periods where we didn’t look comfortable. First 15 minutes and last 15 minutes. Maybe another 5 minutes at the beginning of the second half. That’s 35 minutes. Out of 90. Fulham won their first corner late in the second half. How on earth do you think we managed >60% possession without a single sustained spell of looking comfortable?
 
I’m starting to think you didn’t actually watch the game. There were only two periods where we didn’t look comfortable. First 15 minutes and last 15 minutes. Maybe another 5 minutes at the beginning of the second half. That’s 35 minutes. Out of 90. Fulham won their first corner late in the second half. How on earth do you think we managed >60% possession without a single sustained spell of looking comfortable?
Might be down to Fulham allowing us to have it in certain areas, you’re a good enough poster to know that ? Same way that Liverpool had loads of possession but in areas we allowed them.

35 minutes isn’t dominating a game but we’re getting into game review in a player thread

just not a fan of his passing, low 80s % id guess but as I’ve said and others too, he wasn’t helped with the team selection

think we’d both agree it wasn’t a comfortable win?
 
Think Fulham had multiple chances to score
Running rings around is a bit silly anyone that isn’t totally biased would say Fulham were in this game for 90 minutes
It was a nervous watch, and a good win
The only thing keeping Fulham remotely in the match was that our attackers were misfiring (and Bailly and AWB had a couple of shaky moments). It had nothing to do with our midfield except maybe the start and end periods of the match.

I still wouldn't want to play Fred-Pogba against top teams (although they were our best players against Sevilla last season), but I'm hoping that performance will see Ole play it more often against the lower teams.
 
The only thing keeping Fulham remotely in the match was that our attackers were misfiring (and Bailly and AWB had a couple of shaky moments). It had nothing to do with our midfield except maybe the start and end periods of the match.

I still wouldn't want to play Fred-Pogba against top teams (although they were our best players against Sevilla last season), but I'm hoping that performance will see Ole play it more often against the lower teams.

we’ll agree on these, great win against a tough team
 
Might be down to Fulham allowing us to have it in certain areas, you’re a good enough poster to know that ? Same way that Liverpool had loads of possession but in areas we allowed them.

35 minutes isn’t dominating a game but we’re getting into game review in a player thread

just not a fan of his passing, low 80s % id guess but as I’ve said and others too, he wasn’t helped with the team selection

think we’d both agree it wasn’t a comfortable win?

It definitely wasn’t a comfortable win. Fulham have been a tough nut to crack this season. They beat Leicester and drew with Liverpool, Soton and Spurs. Plus we seem to be shit at closing games out. Last 10 minutes were agony. But we did dominate them for most of the game and there were long spells where we were very comfortable. They just felt a lot shorter than the short spells where we weren’t!
 
It definitely wasn’t a comfortable win. Fulham have been a tough nut to crack this season. They beat Leicester and drew with Liverpool, Soton and Spurs. Plus we seem to be shit at closing games out. Last 10 minutes were agony. But we did dominate them for most of the game and there were long spells where we were very comfortable. They just felt a lot shorter than the short spells where we weren’t!
They waited for the ball to hit midfield then closed ranks straight away
A sloppy gk error and a brilliant goal won the game, just 1 Cavani chance and I think that’s absolutely it that I can remember.
Far from dominate, for me anyway, different opinions though at the end, 3 pts:)
 
Thought he was broadly decent, better then he was against Liverpool, and you've got to love the tenacity he has.

He did look like a little kid up against Loftus Cheek though :lol:
 
RLC is a 6 foot 4 monster and the rest of the team struggled to deal with him too. Fred did brilliant in every other aspect of the game.
In the current form, it’s becoming ridiculous that Chelsea prefers Kavertz and sent RLC out. Homegrown talents from their own academy are wasted there. CHO could be the next one.
 
I mean, both of the shots that Bruno took from outside the box in the first half (first one hitting the post, second one going just wide) were from Fred making a good pass through the lines to him. And after the first one he then immediately won the ball and played two quick passes in short succession that put Bruno in space to put in the cross that led to the goal.

Fred's not an amazing passer but he's a lot better than some make out. 'Abysmal' he certainly is not.
His short- and mid-range passing is very very good. His line breaking pass is as good as anyone. It’s due to people’s bias which had been formed long time ago in those terrible team performances. Well, for some, time could change their opinion, and the others might never.
 
Thought he was broadly decent, better then he was against Liverpool, and you've got to love the tenacity he has.

He did look like a little kid up against Loftus Cheek though :lol:
Exactly!
Remember that free kick he gave away in front of box on left? He genuinely went for a 50-50 body check with RLC. RLC has a much more mass. After the collision, Fred was wiped away to the sky. It matches very well the momentum conservation in physics.:lol:
He is fearless!
 
Stop the killer passes please leave that to Pogba and co
Fred’s killer pass catalyzed the first goal and it’s something the coaches have probably encouraged him to do. Fred having an unbelievable season and we would still be in the cl if he hadn’t been suspended.
 
Whether he has good or bad game, his work rate is unreal. Jose said ManUtd lack mad dogs in the squad, Fred is that player. Relentless when out of possession, he way he won the ball near the corner with 2 v 1 was amazing. He never gives up.

Not one of his best games but he is very important player for us in pressing and moving the ball quickly.
 
Whether he has good or bad game, his work rate is unreal. Jose said ManUtd lack mad dogs in the squad, Fred is that player. Relentless when out of possession, he way he won the ball near the corner with 2 v 1 was amazing. He never gives up.

Not one of his best games but he is very important player for us in pressing and moving the ball quickly.
When we signed him, it’s the World Cup year and he was in the Brazil team camp. The first news I heard was he twisted his ankle in training. I then asked my Brazilian colleague about Fred cause I never heard him before. He showed me a cartoon animation which has Neymar holding own leg, rolling all over the pitch, crying like baby. My colleague told me Fred is definitely not like Neymar. :lol:
 
He’s probably my favourite player these days. So unorthodox but effective. He’s winning balls he has no right to in nearly every game. We need that to hopefully unlock the attacking talent at the club. Balls to the wall workrate. He’s a pressing machine and a solid passer through the lanes on the turn with both feet and he’s been available to play a lot. He’s one of the first names on the team sheet. Money well spent.
 
It still surprises me how Fred doesn’t get the plaudits he deserves.

It just seems many go out of there way to find moments on which to find criticism rather than just see what strong attributes he delivers to the team.

Bruno and more recently Pogba getting all the accolades but Fred just keeps on delivering each and ever game. No frills, no fuss just doing a great underrated job. No assist today for the Cavani goal but his involvement was instrumental in the goal.

I love the guy, I think he is a great player. Not the flamboyant normal Brazilian style player but all effort and does the one percenters so well.
 
I thought he was very good, the only flaw he had yesterday was that he got dribble past by and struggled in strength to strength with Loftus Cheek which not an easy opponent to deal with since he is very strong, physically like Pogba and can dribble.

Our first goal started from his passing to find Bruno, hit the post and then restarted by his high pressing won the ball back and continued with one two passings with Bruno which led to the crossing and the goal. Times I have seen him being involved or influenced in our build up of the goals and chances this season which something un-noticed and people thought he only offers his high energy and pressing.
 
Love the fight and energy he brings. He wins the ball back so many times up the pitch,and never seems to tire.

Has his flaws, mainly in his passing consistency, but he always puts a shift in.
 
He was given big praise by Robbie Earle after the game which was nice to hear, given he hardly gets the plaudits for his relentless running and work off the ball to help us turn it over.
 
Brilliant v Fulham. He was everywhere and considering he was the only defensive minded player in midfield even more impressive. He must be so frustrating to play against. Like a Terrier constantly snapping at your heels.
 
Brilliant v Fulham. He was everywhere and considering he was the only defensive minded player in midfield even more impressive. He must be so frustrating to play against. Like a Terrier constantly snapping at your heels.
Totally agree, Pogba has done some decent defensive work but in terms of covering. He´s covering for him, for Shaw at one minute and then you can see him hard pressing a player on the otherside of the pitch which resulted in our first goal. He absolutely deserves credit for that but noone seems to mention that, because obviously for some people only assists and goals count. Also if he lost the ball as much as Bruno he would be crucified.

Another great performance which would go unnoticed.
 
Love the fight and energy he brings. He wins the ball back so many times up the pitch,and never seems to tire.

Has his flaws, mainly in his passing consistency, but he always puts a shift in.
I don´t understand this stupid logic mentioning his inconsistent passing over and over again. He´s one of our best passers, the highest pass completion of all midfielders and he´s not an exactly safe passer either. He plays a lot in between the lines and when you count the amount time on the ball he spends, he really is brilliant. Meaning look at how quickly he gets the ball under controll and keeps it moving while not exactly passing sideways and backwards. He´s like a metronom who keeps it moving fast which is something we lack so much in many games, taking an extra touch passing too slow with Matic or McTominay and perhaps with Pogba as well but we can allow the big man to have an extra touch since his vision and ability to execute any kind of pass anywhere on the pitch is absolute key to open defenses at certain points of the game

And imagine having someone as wasteful as Bruno infront of him and keeping the midfield together. He would get crucified for that pass in the middle of the park around 75th minute which went straight to Fulham player who started a dangerous counter...
 
Apart from minute 5 to minute 75.
Completely disagree but been discussed to death yesterday.
They scored early which allowed them to get men behind the ball giving you this false sense of control.
When we went in front they started coming out and created some great chances.

It was a good win against a tricky side, not an easy win like you’re suggesting
 
His work rate is huge for us. Yes, he has some rough edges but an important player, no doubt. Love to see him win the ball back for us, kicking at the oppo‘s ankles until he’s got the ball. I celebrated him winning back possession for us near the end.
 
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