Leftback99
Oscar the Grouch.
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Idiotic and we'll miss him next week.
Has he come out with his Instagram apology yet?
He got away with it in first half. The foul he was sent off was not even a foul. What more he should do? It's on Ole to keep him on. Fred can't sub himself off. Fred was always going the moment he tackled. Can't expect him to not tackle at all ?Yes it was his fault. Had he not done what he did in the first half the ref can’t send him off.
He'll rightly feel hard done by, he played well and his mistake was getting unnerved ever so slightly by parades
The headbutt rule is so stupid. Paredes initiated it so why cant he move his head out the way? A bit silly to me.
You think I came here looking for rational solutions?
Fred can move his head away. He cant move his head through the other player and out the other side though, thats the problem
Thing is, it was obvious he was going to get sent off. Not only should he have seen a straight red, he should've got another yellow for his collision with Paredes. We all knew he was going to commit at least one more foul because that's the type of player he is, and we knew PSG would deliberately target him and make a meal out of the slightest thing.Didn’t watch the game so can’t comment on specific incidents but what is this collective madness where I’m seeing literally dozens of posts saying how Ole made a grave error not subbing him off at half time. Is that a thing now? We have to sub every player who gets booked at half time? That would make life quite difficult for us, surely?!?
He was playing well - which is why he didn’t get subbed offThe Olympic level mental gymnastics people are doing to try to say he was playing well and was unlucky to be sent off
Dangerous levels of copium to try and explain away reality
He was playing well - which is why he didn’t get subbed off
Follows through with 2 feet
Headbutts
Late and steps on opponent
"Should feel hard done by"
But everyone could see it coming. I’ll take someone coming on for someone playing well than 10 men any day.He was playing well - which is why he didn’t get subbed off
Yeah there was no time before that to sub him off.He didnt get subbed off because he was sent off
Thing is, it was obvious he was going to get sent off. Not only should he have seen a straight red, he should've got another yellow for his collision with Paredes. We all knew he was going to commit at least one more foul because that's the type of player he is, and we knew PSG would deliberately target him and make a meal out of the slightest thing.
What adds to the frustration is that we had plenty of options on the bench, too.
Yeah there was no time before that to sub him off.
That was harsh, but he should've already been sent off twice before that. We got away with it both times and Ole should've known they'd now target him, count his blessings that the ref saved him from getting sent off at least twice, and subbed him.Just seen the replay of his second yellow. Never a booking. Hererra was far more reckless than Fred. Are there are any other incidents after the booking where he was lucky to escape a booking? Because central midfielders play 90 minutes after an early booking all the time. You can’t just sub them off at half time every time they get a booking. That’s insane.
Agree with you. And I am neither a United nor a Fred fan.Am I the only one who thinks Fred's second yellow was actually a foul on him by the PSG player?
This is what it looked like to me:
1) Even though recovering from a bad touch, Fred is clearly first into the situation.
2) Fred wins the ball 100% fairly with a good tackle. No studs, no flying through the air, not at all "out of control".
3) The PSG player is late into the situation, and because of that he rams his knee into Fred's thigh after failing to be first on the ball.
No yellow card either way. Freekick for United.
No?
We are talking about Fred, no?So everyone on the pitch before Fred got sent off, when we were 2-1 down was playing well because if they werent they would have been subbed off?
Getting a first yellow is not the issue here though. He head butted someone which would be a red any other day, stamped on Parades which was also missed by ref . Referee could just be looking at these incidents at halftime and if he decides to give a second yellow for the very first aggressive challenge , can you blame him ?Just seen the replay of his second yellow. Never a booking. Hererra was far more reckless than Fred, who won the ball cleanly.
Are there are any other incidents after the initial booking where he was lucky to escape a second yellow? Because central midfielders play 90 minutes after an early booking all the time. You can’t just sub them off at half time every time they get a booking. That’s insane.
Getting a first yellow is not the issue here though. He head butted someone which would be a red any other day, stamped on Parades which was also missed by ref . Referee could just be looking at these incidents at halftime and if he decides to give a second yellow for the very first aggressive challenge , can you blame him ?
Just seen the replay of his second yellow. Never a booking. Hererra was far more reckless than Fred, who won the ball cleanly.
Are there are any other incidents after the initial booking where he was lucky to escape a second yellow? Because central midfielders play 90 minutes after an early booking all the time. You can’t just sub them off at half time every time they get a booking. That’s insane.
I still think calling that a head butt shows how pathetically soft the game is. Paredes comes in unprovoked for a start.Getting a first yellow is not the issue here though. He head butted someone which would be a red any other day, stamped on Parades which was also missed by ref . Referee could just be looking at these incidents at halftime and if he decides to give a second yellow for the very first aggressive challenge , can you blame him ?
I still think calling that a head butt shows how pathetically soft the game is. Paredes comes in unprovoked for a start.
We are talking about Fred, no?
Just seen the replay of his second yellow. Never a booking. Hererra was far more reckless than Fred, who won the ball cleanly.
Are there are any other incidents after the initial booking where he was lucky to escape a second yellow? Because central midfielders play 90 minutes after an early booking all the time. You can’t just sub them off at half time every time they get a booking. That’s insane.
Just seen the replay of his second yellow. Never a booking. Hererra was far more reckless than Fred, who won the ball cleanly.
Are there are any other incidents after the initial booking where he was lucky to escape a second yellow? Because central midfielders play 90 minutes after an early booking all the time. You can’t just sub them off at half time every time they get a booking. That’s insane.
Try the incident (after about 38 mins) in which a PSG player, probably Paredes, got booked, when on the replay Fred stood on his foot.
Fred could have been booked very early in the match for a reckless challenge.
That wasn't a normal booking though and PSG aren't your normal side.