jamesjimmybyrondean
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One of the few that wasn't atrocious in the first half. Good passer
Nah I think its because he looked off the pace whenever he came on, post covidClearly Ole doesn't rate him and irrespective of how he plays, he is way down the pecking order.....
Clearly Ole doesn't rate him and irrespective of how he plays, he is way down the pecking order.....
Yeah, that was complete bollocks. I really dont understand these ex-pro's sometimes. Do they see a different game or are we missing everything?Played really well tonight, easily the best player in the first half. Not sure why Scholes lumped him in with Lingard and saying Old was getting rid of him. Was miles ahead of McT.
I do think they see some things differently than us, but not all pros get everything right, just because they were prosYeah, that was complete bollocks. I really dont understand these ex-pro's sometimes. Do they see a different game or are we missing everything?
Scholes thinks Ole wants to sell Fred?! I cant see it!I do think they see some things differently than us, but not all pros get everything right, just because they were pros
...yet he keeps Scott on when clearly Fred was having a better game. Scott's also played more than him since lockdown. Ole was forced to play Fred due to injuries and since then reverted back behind Scott and others. Crazy when you think that Fred was in the running for POTS.....Nah I think its because he looked off the pace whenever he came on, post covid
I didn't see anything strange in that sub tbh, it was either tactical or he was fading....yet he keeps Scott on when clearly Fred was having a better game. Scott's also played more than him since lockdown. Ole was forced to play Fred due to injuries and since then reverted back behind Scott and others. Crazy when you think that Fred was in the running for POTS.....
What tactics? And if Fred was fading then Mctominay must have vanished from existenceI didn't see anything strange in that sub tbh, it was either tactical or he was fading.
McTominay is the DM, Fred is the box to box CM and shares the same role as Pogba who was coming on to replace him.What tactics? And if Fred was fading then Mctominay must have vanished from existence
I didn't see anything strange in that sub tbh, it was either tactical or he was fading.
This was probably the idea but Ole does favour Mctominay over. I also don't think there's any risk playing Fred as DM in the game. He played that role very well when he came in for Matic against BournemouthMcTominay is the DM, Fred is the box to box CM and shares the same role as Pogba who was coming on to replace him.
Maybe but Fred could have gone DM when Pogs came on. Scott was playing that poorly and it's not like there was that much to lose from the change given the opposition. He put Chong on as LB for crying sake....McTominay is the DM, Fred is the box to box CM and shares the same role as Pogba who was coming on to replace him.
This. Fred is simply better but Ole see him as Pogba replacement when in reality they are nothing like and should be playing together with Pogba allowed the freedom to go forward.I think Mctominay is Ole's guy and Fred suffers for it. Fred is easily the better player
Because we have a starting 11 ahead of them...Why wont they start monday? Have i missed something
Gotta revert back to the 433. Those were the days players like him and Herrera shined. Problem is that one of Pogba/Fernandes would have to be dropped to make it work.Like I said in my previous, a case of the Herreras.
Underlooked and underused. Baffling.
Fred seems to have a higher ceiling to me given his superior natural abilities.I'd imagine Ole feels Scott perhaps has a higher ceiling and could eventually become a real leader, maybe as a defensive midfielder. But he's still young and has a long way to go. Where as with Fred, he's more or less in his prime now and Ole know's his ceiling. He's a great player but without too many goals and assists in his game, I don't think anyone would offer more than 25 million for him if we were to sell, so I guess Ole will keep him and use him sparingly. Handy squad player to have
What higher ceiling? He's already 27 y.o. He's as good as you get now.Fred seems to have a higher ceiling to me given his superior natural abilities.
He improved rapidly between the last 2 seasons. Sometimes it's about showcasing your abilities more than nurturing talent. And I'm not sure Mctominay can put on those level of peformances, is my point, due to not having the technical abilities. He has other abilities but like i alluded earlier, this isn't linear narrative where 23 year old at level 79 will end up being better than 27 year old at level 83. The former actually has to have the qualities to make those strides and the latter should also be showing their very best right now.What higher ceiling? He's already 27 y.o. He's as good as you get now.
Ok. Sorry I misunderstood. I'm not too sure I can agree with this ceiling thing between the two, but I can see why people can see it that way.He improved rapidly between the last 2 seasons. Sometimes it's about showcasing your abilities more than nurturing talent. And I'm not sure Mctominay can put on those level of peformances, is my point, due to not having the technical abilities. He has other abilities but like i alluded earlier, this isn't linear narrative where 23 year old at level 79 will end up being better than 27 year old at level 83. The former actually has to have the qualities to make those strides and the latter should also be showing their very best right now.
Some very decent passes in the first half otherwise I think he was atrocious. Very little composure, awareness and some of his passes are criminal.
Nah Scott was even worse. We are nuts if we think these 2 can replace Matic when needed next season.Agree that was Scott but what about Fred?
Sorry still confused. Has the team been annouced for Monday?Because we have a starting 11 ahead of them...