He will get other gigs. He is on the same bus as Phil Neville
Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked
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This is Chelsea FC so hardly a surprise but I think Frank deserved a bit more time. The signings didn't exactly set the world ablaze but its still their first season in PL. What Frank achieved in the little time he had was by no means trivial.
Roman as ruthless as always. I almost envy it.
I think Tuchel will be make a good short term impact but he's known to be hard work for the board.
I think Tuchel will be make a good short term impact but he's known to be hard work for the board.
Do New York City FC need a manager?
Have to admit, I thought getting Havertz and Werner in would guarantee them enough goals to make top four a certainty. Maybe they are the sort of players that need a full season to get used to thinks (we've had a few!). Don't think Lampard was helped by Kepa turned out to be unaware what that round white thing is - and that he's meant to stop it!
Really brutal. If they had just finished it at the "not met expectations" bit, it would have been fine. The personal statement from Abramovich himself was great, but the bit that the club put in was poor.
We signed Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and James at that point, losing Lukaku, Smalling, Herrera, Valencia, Sanchez and Darmian, spending about €70M net.
Chelsea brought in a lot more first team players, spending around €200M net.
We didn't have the squad depth with the players we lost. Prime example being this 1:0 defeat away to Newcastle
The signing of Bruno in January was huge as we just didn't have the player capable of providing the creativity. We had Pogba in the squad but he wasn't providing at the time.
And who they were, his favourites? Mount is one of course
Or even take the 'New' off the front. He would be better off earning his stripes in the lower leagues for a few seasons. John Terry doing the right thing learning as a number 2 first. Gerrard had the Liverpool youth team for a while I think.
Not quite. Roman would have been shown any other manager the door last season after scraping fourth.
At Danny Drinkwater thinking that Lampard sacking will somehow mean anything for him at Chelsea.Not sure Sir Alex would have survived under Abramovich - who would want to work for him? Well, other than being given a bucket of money, of course!
why?
I think the club hated doing this but, like many fans, have probably felt he doesn't look like he knows how to get us out of this mess, and in that context, sacking him now rather than 3-4 weeks from now was the right move.
Sacking statements under Roman:
The fecker still getting special treatment even when he's sacked.
Three times now I've read Drinkwater and thought "Murphy". Only when I saw your post did i remember I was muddling them up!
The confusing thing is, why they hired Lampard in the first place if they didnt have a plan.
Unless the plan was, Lampard must get top4 without spending in the first season.
If he does, then season 2 he will be given as much money / signings as possible and from there he must challenge for the title.
(But if thats the case, then clearly the signings arent his and they needed Lampard to coach who was bought rather than trying to build a team)
Its a bit bizarre unless they only intended Lampard to be short term and were waiting for the first opportunity of bad results to sack him (and it helped that a manager like Tuchel was available)
Unless the plan was, Lampard must get top4 without spending in the first season.
If he does, then season 2 he will be given as much money / signings as possible and from there he must challenge for the title.
(But if thats the case, then clearly the signings arent his and they needed Lampard to coach who was bought rather than trying to build a team)
Its a bit bizarre unless they only intended Lampard to be short term and were waiting for the first opportunity of bad results to sack him (and it helped that a manager like Tuchel was available)
Then. Now. Tomorrow
I suppose that's only true if there is a preferred replacement and Abramovich was scared of losing him. Not convince Tuchel is a long-term answer for you guys - but I guess Abramovich doesn't deal in the long term. Jose might be free
"Meritorious" managerial appointments in football. And that's fine. If you have your coaching badges, and you can impress in the interview then you're qualified. You don't have to work your way up from League 2 to qualify to be United's manager.
Then. Now. Tomorrow
I think you mean "not tomorrow"!
I can’t find it. Can someone post it in the interesting tweets by footballers thread?
Missed a trick not getting Stephen Warnock in, quick somebody tell Roman to watch Sky Sports News.
Astonished?
The writing's been on the wall for a while now. Abramovich bought all the shiny toys in the Summer and things were getting worse instead of better.
He's not exactly patient.
I suppose that's only true if there is a preferred replacement and Abramovich was scared of losing him. Not convince Tuchel is a long-term answer for you guys - but I guess Abramovich doesn't deal in the long term. Jose might be free
According the Athletic, they tried to sound out Nagelsmann but that was a non-starter until at least the summer and Rangnick turned down the interim gig, so I suppose the choice was between Tuchel or sticking with Lampard.
No manager is a long-term answer for Chelsea it seems. We have tried all kinds of managers from experienced proven winners to young inexperienced novices to whatever the hell Sarri represented. None lasted more than 3 years except Jose 15 years ago and even he lasted just 3.5 years.
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But 18 months is nothing - given that for the first chunk of that he couldn't get players in. I did say Abramovich is a maniac!
The difference between Ole and Lampard is firstly Ole has an assistant manager working under him who has already won 3 premier league titles as Fergie's no. 2, has rich Champions League experience and had experience managing the worlds best players already such as Cristiano, Scholes, Rooney, Van Persie.
Lampard had Jody Morris as his no. 2.
Ole then had 6 years management under his belt, even though it was Molde, he still got great experience there developing young players.
I think Lampard has talent. I think he should work as a no. 2 for a year or two under an experienced coach who plays nice football and who develops youth, or bring in a very experienced no.2 next time at a Championship club and gain more experience.
Lampard had Jody Morris as his no. 2.
Ole then had 6 years management under his belt, even though it was Molde, he still got great experience there developing young players.
I think Lampard has talent. I think he should work as a no. 2 for a year or two under an experienced coach who plays nice football and who develops youth, or bring in a very experienced no.2 next time at a Championship club and gain more experience.
No surprises really, it's been on the cards for a while and it's Chelsea, not exactly the most patient club. Shame they did it as I was enjoying Chelsea not being a threat. Not sure how Tuchel will do but there's a squad there that could get serious results if you manage to put all the pieces together.
But on Frank, probably overachieved in his first season which raised what were previously expectations. Second season was always going to be harder as a result. After that insane transfer window with crazy money spent there were never going to be any excuses allowed at that club to be honest. Not only has he not improved them, they regressed and so it was inevitable. Hard to judge his standing as a manager. I certainly don't think he is bad, but clearly wasn't ready for the top level. His experience at Derby was solid if unspectacular. I honestly have no idea what sort of club he could turn up at next. Can't see it being Premier League but would he drop to a lower division again? I'm not sure about that. Chelsea job seemed too much, too soon for him at best.
But on Frank, probably overachieved in his first season which raised what were previously expectations. Second season was always going to be harder as a result. After that insane transfer window with crazy money spent there were never going to be any excuses allowed at that club to be honest. Not only has he not improved them, they regressed and so it was inevitable. Hard to judge his standing as a manager. I certainly don't think he is bad, but clearly wasn't ready for the top level. His experience at Derby was solid if unspectacular. I honestly have no idea what sort of club he could turn up at next. Can't see it being Premier League but would he drop to a lower division again? I'm not sure about that. Chelsea job seemed too much, too soon for him at best.
You can't fit Lampard and Gerrard into the same league.
Chelsea are ruthless when it comes to managerial sackings.
I can't really fault him for leaving Derby to become Chelsea manager but ideally he should have gained experience with Derby, possibly got them a promotion and then he might have been better prepared for a big job.
No, he did not. Them scrapping fourth place on the last day is not overachieving considering they had the third-best squad in the league last season. They also had a massive point advantage over us in January and yet finished below us.
To quit on him now just seems daft, because what was Roman actually expecting from him? Instant success and winning the title? Surely he wasn't that naive. If there was ever a manager to actually put faith and trust in it was Frank, and he's been binned in the blink of an eye just like the rest.
Mount, Chilwell, Pulisic all in with a shout I'd reckon.
Dont think he was ready for the gig. He came in with a what looked like a philosophy of how to play the game but that dissapeared ages ago. Looks like he's been throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks for about a year at this point. Think he needs a couple of years experimenting basically and seeing what works for him and Chelsea isn't the place to do that.
Looks he could be a pretty good manager some day to be fair, just looks very inexperienced
Looks he could be a pretty good manager some day to be fair, just looks very inexperienced
Sentimentality has no place in football? You know that's what fandom is based on, right? If sentimentality was taken out of football, the professional game wouldn't exist.
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