Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked

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Wow

Wait for the tards to come out with a line like this is how big clubs act when pointing that we should have sacked Ole a year ago :rolleyes:
If anything I’d have thought our recent form would have made Chelsea more likely to give Lampard time, same with Arteta. I was hopeful anyway.
 
Hard to judge him on that when PSG have walked the league almost every year since 2013.

I was responding to someone else’s claim that he was sacked despite having Neymar and Mbappe.

Tuchel has a style, something Lampard hasn’t figured out yet. Tuchel has impressed with Mainz and Dortmund prior to moving to PSG where he is experienced the pressure of working at a bigger club.

He ticks a lot of boxes and he is now given until the end of the season to implement his own style and prepare for 2021-2022. I don’t think we will challenge this year as it’s too late but this gives him preparation time as opposed to being thrown in during the summer and expecting to challenge.
 
Those Germans have got Lampard the sack, pile of shit the pair of them.
Agree. They've been feckin woeful.

I bet if he could turn back time he would bench the pair of them and play the lads he played last season. But with high value players comes a pressure to play them.

Signing so many players in one window and forcing them into the starting 11 rarely works, reminds of when Tottenham did the same with the Bale money. No doubt some of them will come good but you can't expect the team to hit the ground running with what 5 new players in the starting 11?
 
As a United fan this is a bit annoying. This Chelsea squad on paper has a lot of potential. If Tuchel gets a tune out of them they could make a charge from this point on.

They're not a threat to us this season. 11 points is a monstrous gap. If they get a bounce it's the likes of Liverpool/Spurs that need to be worried.
 
If the Glazers did to Ole what Abramovich is doing to Lampard I'd be livid.

I can see the reasoning behind it and, if Ole's come under pressure for finishing 3rd and then leading us to the top of the table, collecting more points than anyone in a calendar year on the way, everyone deserves to be questioned.

However, for me, when the Ole outs were twerking for Pochettino, my big question was: 'What makes you think things will be so much better under someone else?' I'd have the same question if I was a Chelsea fan hearing the Tuchel speculation.

If you were talking about a sure thing, a manager who was obviously at the level of Pep and Klopp, maybe you could swallow the bitter pill? However, Tuchel is not at that level. So what are you really hoping for? Finishing top four under a club legend is surely more satisfying (emotionally) than under someone else?
 
The Ole sack thread would still be in full flow if we were where Chelsea are right now. It’s only a surprise it took Abramovich this long, and it wouldn’t have without Lampard’s ties to the club. He’s one of the least hard done by Chelsea managers of recent times. Tuchel will do well to last as long.
 
Exciting signing. Chelsea's management is in point those last few seasons.
 
We or mostly Ole dodged a massive bullet by not going after Havertz. That is a 70m bog every PL manager will fall into.
 
The Ole sack thread would still be in full flow if we were where Chelsea are right now. It’s only a surprise it took Abramovich this long, and it wouldn’t have without Lampard’s ties to the club. He’s one of his least hard done by Chelsea managers. Tuchel will do well to last as long.

Do you think? I'd say if it reached this point Ole would already be gone ! There was serious pressure mounting before Christmas.
 
They're too busy being upset about being top of the league, claiming a COVID hit season is the reason why we're top and nothing to do with Ole, the players or the coaches. Just pure luck!

They? Care to bring some examples/quotes?
 
Hard to judge him on that when PSG have walked the league almost every year since 2013.
They blew it two seasons before his appointment and even Ancelotti (who is universally raved over) lost one title there to Giroud's Montpelier.

As Juve and Celtic are showing, you still need to have a quality manager to retain dominance heavy favorite's or not.
 
Roman is ruthless - it’s why they are so successful and don’t usually go longer than 3 years without wining a title since he’s been in charge. But it also why imo they are a hollow club.
 
Seems a little sudden, I was expecting it either when top 4 seemed unlikely or a cl exit but to be expected from Chelsea I guess. Tuchel is a definite improvement though and could see them in the mix next season. Hopefully frank can learn and come back from it, someone mentioned him taking a job abroad which could be a good option but think it’s more likely he goes back to the championship
 
I was responding to someone else’s claim that he was sacked despite having Neymar and Mbappe.

Tuchel has a style, something Lampard hasn’t figured out yet. Tuchel has impressed with Mainz and Dortmund prior to moving to PSG where he is experienced the pressure of working at a bigger club.

He ticks a lot of boxes and he is now given until the end of the season to implement his own style and prepare for 2021-2022. I don’t think we will challenge this year as it’s too late but this gives him preparation time as opposed to being thrown in during the summer and expecting to challenge.

That's going to be important, it's something Chelsea have missed for a long time. Since the Mourinho days even. They did have something approaching a style in the mid 2010s with Matic/Kante and Hazard, but they have been a bit flat for a few years now.

Tuchel is a good manager and achieved everything that could be realistically expected at PSG. Pinning your hopes on winning a single knockout trophy when you're playing with a child's fantasy football team and you only have about three testing games per year is destined to fail.
 


Lineker disagrees. There's something to say for it, but unfortunately I think Chelsea doesn't have the luxury to wait on it whilst missing the CL and stuff like that, & there's also no guarantee that Lampard is the right person to turn it around either.


They will all disagree with it, but there’s definite hypocrisy here too. The media would certainly be campaigning for a foreign manager to be sacked in the same circumstances. They have tried to get every manager sacked at United since Fergie, with the exception of Moyes who they were willing to ‘give time’. This includes campaigning against Mourinho following a second placed finish.
 
Apparently Tuchel is set to be given a 4.5 year contract. Bit weird given Mourinho from 2004-2007 is the only manager to stay in a job at Chelsea for more than 2 years since Abramovich bought the club.
 
Will be interesting to see how Tuchel cope with an entire new league where he doesnt have a massive quality advantage, and a absolutely horrid unbalanced squad of players.

The hype will be tested with this one.
 
This just makes the decision by Chelsea to appoint him in the first place look stupid. If you recruit a manager with almost no experience, you have to be prepared to support him for the long haul while he learns on the job. If its short term success you want, stick to experienced managers.
 
Wolves H
Burnley H
Spurs A
Sheffield United A
Barnsley A
Newcastle H
Southampton A

Not a bad run of games for the new manager to take charge of
 
He's different gravy to Lampard in terms of experience. Whether he can turn them into title threats immediately is questionable but pretty certain they're going to be a better side. Personally think he could have held out for a better club but I guess he has a chance here to take on Pep, Klopp and Jose at the same time - a league of Super Coaches!

 
I would be really worried if they get Rafa as interim manager (again) and then get Nagelsmann in summer.
 
They do not mess around

Roman is ruthless - it’s why they are so successful and don’t usually go longer than 3 years without wining a title since he’s been in charge. But it also why imo they are a hollow club.
He puts the money in the squad and if he thinks another manager can get the best out of the players, then he'll chop and change.

The worry always was if they hired a coach with a bit more experience to galvanise the team. Plus they still have strong options off the bench like CHO and Giroud.

I wouldn't be surprised if they get their act together for next season.
 
Still have no idea why managers want to spend insane sums in a window. You'll never be able to gel all of them quickly, and provide a return on investment to the owner.

It has happened way too often - Ranieri window at chelsea, AVB window at Spurs, RM when they bought Kaka, CR7 and Xabi and so on.
 
They will all disagree with it, but there’s definite hypocrisy here too. The media would certainly be campaigning for a foreign manager to be sacked in the same circumstances. They have tried to get every manager sacked at United since Fergie, with the exception of Moyes who they were willing to ‘give time’. This includes campaigning against Mourinho following a second placed finish.

Couldn't agree more
 
Will be interesting to see how Tuchel cope with an entire new league where he doesnt have a massive quality advantage, and a absolutely horrid unbalanced squad of players.

The hype will be tested with this one.
That's the point. It is easy winning the French league when you have such resources. He couldn't win in Germany as Bayern so strong. This league is very competitive. He will find that every game is a battle.
 
If the Glazers did to Ole what Abramovich is doing to Lampard I'd be livid.

I can see the reasoning behind it and, if Ole's come under pressure for finishing 3rd and then leading us to the top of the table, collecting more points than anyone in a calendar year on the way, everyone deserves to be questioned.

However, for me, when the Ole outs were twerking for Pochettino, my big question was: 'What makes you think things will be so much better under someone else?' I'd have the same question if I was a Chelsea fan hearing the Tuchel speculation.

If you were talking about a sure thing, a manager who was obviously at the level of Pep and Klopp, maybe you could swallow the bitter pill? However, Tuchel is not at that level. So what are you really hoping for? Finishing top four under a club legend is surely more satisfying (emotionally) than under someone else?

Exactly this. We had a similar run last year, the board stuck by Ole because of one reason and that is having a long term plan, so they were giving him as much benefit of doubt as possible.

The difference however; a good portion of chelsea fans back Frank which was opposite to alot of United fans who until Poch got the PSG job were all poch in.
 
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