I think we can get away with rotating the attack to a point, infact that makes sense given the options we have but yeah defense needs to be nailed down atleast for 3 positions out of 4.
Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked
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In Frank we trust. He's a winner.
Really? Conte bloody won it after a disaster season in the previous year.
I like the team you have proposed and generally agree with your view. I've got a soft spot for Tammy and think he offers something different. Werner seems to be a little one dimensional with his pace but its very early days and he may improve his link up play. Tammy and Havertz may also get something going.
I think it will help Frank to form a more settled team when the squad gets a bit smaller. Barkley has gone but he could also get rid of Alonso, probably Rudiger (who I thought was a top CH) or Christensen , maybe even RLC who I also thought was going to be a central figure. I just think a smaller group would be easier to manage.
We need time and Pulisic and Ziyech firing on all cylinders. I'm still very positive about the squad. There's no way they were all going to gel immediately. The injury to Ziyech was a real choker and I'm not sure where he is in his recovery. He's top class and experienced. He walks into this team and should be bringing a lot of quality to the crossing. Havertz looks really intelligent. He makes quick passes the opposition don't see coming. He can open the door for us and score. He's young and can't be expected to walk into the premier league and tear it up in the first few games.
People writing off Lampard at this stage are not looking at the facts and the high quality yet to come into the team. Give it until Christmas to see how the players gel. He may not get the opportunity to field the team you suggest for a few weeks yet so lets see how the play is after that lot start gelling.
COYB!
Frust.
We started poorly that year as Conte started out using a 4-1-4-1 system. Lost 3-0 to Arsenal and that triggered the change to 3-4-3 and 13 straight league wins.
He seems like a bigger twat than Klopp, and that takes some doing. Talks like he has been a manger for years and won allsorts, condescending to other managers, and is so far up his own arse it's unbelievable.
No excuses but we missed chance after chance and they scored with 2 shots. Unbelievable, we have to get better but we controlled the game fron start to finish.
But no excuses, we hold our hands up., we were the better team though.
His interview style after a loss infuriates me! Its so condescending.
Don't watch them then. Easy!
But I love listening to salty managers after a disappointing result.
Its a vicious cycle that I cant break out from.
Anyone else worried about how good Chelsea suddenly look since ridding themselves of Kepa?
2 goals conceded from their last 9 games. 22 goals scored.
Like Ole, I have serious doubts about Lampard. But it's all starting to come together for him now.
2 goals conceded from their last 9 games. 22 goals scored.
Like Ole, I have serious doubts about Lampard. But it's all starting to come together for him now.
Pretty solid string of results, you have to say. Obviously it helps that Chelsea managed to fill pretty much every gap in their team in the transfer window, but give Frank credit for selecting the right teams and getting them to gel.
At this rate they look like a certainty for top 4 and a serious title contender.
At this rate they look like a certainty for top 4 and a serious title contender.
I think hes doing alright and they battered Sevilla 4 -0 which is impressive.
Tbf the writing was on the wall with kepa.
Last season we were one of the best teams in terms of conceding shots at goal yet we conceded a shit ton of goals. Thats a discrepancy that shouldnt happen. But the immediate shift from conceding goals to clean sheets with a goalkeeper change shows exactly who the issue was.
We have a similar situation with De Gea since 2018. But we went and gave him a new deal with a salary increase.
I think we would also benefit from a GK change.
I don't think Chelsea will win the title, but this could be your 2013/2014 season before winning it next season. The new signings will have fully settled by then.
I suppose another issue is that Thiago Silva will be 37 next season, so you need to be on the lookout for another CB.
Looks like this watch might outlast the one up north
Hold your horses, they haven't beaten a single team above 13th yet.
De gea was never as shit as kepa. I dont know how it is for you so i cant comment on what you need but even all the stats pointed to kepa being the issue.We have a similar situation with De Gea since 2018. But we went and gave him a new deal with a salary increase.
I think we would also benefit from a GK change.
I don't think Chelsea will win the title, but this could be your 2013/2014 season before winning it next season. The new signings will have fully settled by then.
I suppose another issue is that Thiago Silva will be 37 next season, so you need to be on the lookout for another CB.
Maybe, i do think we are well placed to win the league in the next few years with the age of liverpool and city's best players should start dropping their amazing form with age. But the way the league is right now we have to go for it this season. Especially with our strength in depth as seen yesterday when we rested 9 players and won 4 0 away at seville.
Even 13/14 we should have won it, iirc it came down to if we won our last 4 (sunderland h liverpool a Norwich h cardiff? A ) we would have won. We beat Cardiff and the slippy game but lost at home to sunderland and drew at home to Norwich. No point looking to next year when theres a chance this one.
Nor will they if they keep playing for 0-0's
But tbf a good season for Lampard is getting them in the top 4 again and given the level of investment and that those players are mostly performing that looks like a certainty
Not as consistently shit, but he has dropped some real clangers for club and country over the past 2.5 years.
I think he's poor for the Marquinhos goal last night, for example. He came off his line, which is rare. But then let the ball roll under his foot despite anticipating what Marquinhos was going to do. The De Gea of old saves it with his foot. He also saves Ward Prowse's free kick 4 years ago.
Not a bad attitude to have. No talk of a rebuild.
Not as consistently shit, but he has dropped some real clangers for club and country over the past 2.5 years.
I think he's poor for the Marquinhos goal last night, for example. He came off his line, which is rare. But then let the ball roll under his foot despite anticipating what Marquinhos was going to do. The De Gea of old saves it with his foot. He also saves Ward Prowse's free kick 4 years ago.
Not a bad attitude to have. No talk of a rebuild.
This better be a WUM
Not as consistently shit, but he has dropped some real clangers for club and country over the past 2.5 years.
I think he's poor for the Marquinhos goal last night, for example. He came off his line, which is rare. But then let the ball roll under his foot despite anticipating what Marquinhos was going to do. The De Gea of old saves it with his foot. He also saves Ward Prowse's free kick 4 years ago.
Not a bad attitude to have. No talk of a rebuild.
If you look at the numbers, De Gea has gone from being very obviously the best keeper by a mile to being more or less exactly average last season. Kepa, on the other hand, put up literally the worst goalkeeping season in the history of the PL and was the worst keeper in all of Europe last year.
De Gea is no longer single-handedly winning matches for you, but he's by no means your biggest issue in defence if you ask me.
I dont know about that it was so close to him, though i agree with the ward prowse freekick.Not as consistently shit, but he has dropped some real clangers for club and country over the past 2.5 years.
I think he's poor for the Marquinhos goal last night, for example. He came off his line, which is rare. But then let the ball roll under his foot despite anticipating what Marquinhos was going to do. The De Gea of old saves it with his foot. He also saves Ward Prowse's free kick 4 years ago.
Not a bad attitude to have. No talk of a rebuild.
A lot of the attitude just like i had last season is down to circumstances.
At the start of last season even i someone who wants us at the top all the time admitted with the ban and losing hazard ( who contributed somthing ridiculous in terms of goals and assists the season prior) and frank being a novice at this level that we will have to give frank a free hit that season. He probably wont get top 4. But he did, though with that success comes more pressure then he got backed in the window even more pressure, it changes expectations. Now i cant sit here and say when i see liverpool with half a team or city floundering the two teams that have carried the standard that right now being the best of the rest is good enough. Not when its this open. There should be no aiming for top 4 again in these circumstances whether we win it i doubt it it remains to be seen but id rather the team aim for top spot than top 4.
It's not just Kepa, Lampard was trying to shoehorn players in earlier in the season (Mount & Havertz in same team especially) the team wasn't balanced plus lots of individual errors. We didn't have our natural wingers Pulisic and Ziyech fit to play. Mendy hasn't had to do much the last few games though did make some very good saves against Utd.
Got to give credit to Lampard for sorting the balance issues out and the board for reinvesting the Hazard money wisely. We look like a very good team now. Looking at the bench last night as well we have stacks of depth. Very positive times for Chelsea.
Kepa should be moved on in January though as I don't see him ever recovering his confidence at Chelsea. He's not as bad as last few performances would suggest.
Got to give credit to Lampard for sorting the balance issues out and the board for reinvesting the Hazard money wisely. We look like a very good team now. Looking at the bench last night as well we have stacks of depth. Very positive times for Chelsea.
Kepa should be moved on in January though as I don't see him ever recovering his confidence at Chelsea. He's not as bad as last few performances would suggest.
Fair play to Lampard for doing well but he jas been fortunate with the kind draws in CL and some easy fixtures. But you have to beat what's in front of you and they are doing that.
The issue for them though is similar to the Cech/Courtois situation for us.
De Gea is past his best and given how his athletic acrobatics is/was his biggest attribute the odds of him lasting at even a decent level (scaled for United's expectations) well into his 30's are next to none.
They have an excellent young keeper who in my opinion is better than present day DDG and he could end up slipping through their fingers.
Guardiola just signed a new deal mateLooks like this watch might outlast the one up north
That’s what 250m gets ya. A whole heap of players with good quality.
Thing is it's not so much the great saves that's so refreshing about Mendy it's the simple basics he's mastering.
Everytime he claims a cross that's otherwise panic stations under Kepa and even some of his straight forward saves I'm not sure would have been likewise saved under Kepa's watch. For example, that long range shot Max Lowe (for Sheffield United) had against us which Mendy plucked from the sky and caught, those type of shots were flying in last season and being made to look unsavable.
Tbf you could quite easily replace Kepa with Willy in this post because truthfully I don't think he was that much better either (if he was he would have comfortably claimed and kept the jersey before the clocks went back).
Maybe Kepa will find a suitable new home for him and I genuinely hope he does but the sheer contrast since Mendy has come in is just too big to be a coincidence, would Kepa or Willy have kept a clean sheet against anyone let alone Sevilla with last night's back four?
Think he means peps cone man in north London
Yes because Seville are notoriously easy to put 4 past...
Credit where it's due, they seem to be a very well oiled machine now that is playing some nice football. Can it last though?
I was talking about the overall draw. Rennes and krasnodar were dream draw for Lampard.
Agreed. Hadn't thought about it in those terms but the comparison is spot on.
No reason why it shouldn't. The Sevilla game was the first of the season that Lamps has had a full squad to pick from and more importantly, a full-strength first XI. Pulisic was super impactful in big games last season and is without a doubt our best attacker - so I expect even more of an improvement if he stays fit.
Chelsea has a very good starting 11 and the strongest bench in the pl at this very moment. If they can sustain this level of performance, Chelsea has a very good chance to win it.
I don't think Liverpool wins it without their main center backs. They are already struggling. City can conjure up consecutive wins to win the pl, but they are quite meh now. Tottenham, probably not, given they are outplayed so many times. United is inconsistent.
However, the way the season's going, injuries are going to hit each team in waves. December schedule has never been more brutal.
I don't think Liverpool wins it without their main center backs. They are already struggling. City can conjure up consecutive wins to win the pl, but they are quite meh now. Tottenham, probably not, given they are outplayed so many times. United is inconsistent.
However, the way the season's going, injuries are going to hit each team in waves. December schedule has never been more brutal.
We've actually got it relatively okay so I hope we can take advantage.
Thanks to already securing top spot in CL we can rest our entire first Xl next week, our midweek PL game is on a Tuesday while our following 'weekend' game is on a Monday and we're out of the League Cup.
The one real bastard in that fixture list is we have a 48 hour turnover on 26th and 28th December.
Of course but harsh to hold the luck of the draw against him. I mean, we lost to Istanbul so you can't just assume these games are bankers. Real test in most of these CL groups where there are two good teams is to finish top which seems guaranteed for them now - the fact they've only conceded once is also pretty impressive. Sterner tests await, that's for sure.
Now would be a harsh time to get sacked....being nominated for PL manager of the month.
Fist pumping nobhead from the Klopp / Conte school of cnuts.
Quality post mate!
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