Football leaks: Ibrahimovic and Pogba wages

So we'll be saving a lot of money once we get Zlatan and Rooney off our books...
 
Absolutely insane money in the game now, honestly. Free marketeers will say they are simply paid what they are worth, others will say that if there is this sort of money in the game then its only right that the players get a sizable share of it, but still.
 
Never been a fan of footballers having their earnings defined by week. In what other sport does that happen? And what point does it serve?

Lewis Hamilton signed a three-year F1 contract with Mercedes worth £32m annually. Which is how it was depicted in the media.

At the time, his earnings equated to £615k per week.

It's all relative.
 
Never been a fan of footballers having their earnings defined by week. In what other sport does that happen? And what point does it serve?

Lewis Hamilton signed a three-year F1 contract with Mercedes worth £32m annually. Which is how it was depicted in the media.

At the time, his earnings equated to £615k per week.

It's all relative.

F1 drivers get paid so much because out of the entire world there are only about 25 of them able to do it and they are also putting their life on the line every time they go on the track - as opposed to a few hundred or so of top level footballers in the world. It's a different situation and I think F1 drivers can basically charge what they want.
 
China could beat even the wages we pay.

Even so, he must be doing his nut sat on the bench every week. People love to assume money is the most important factor for already rich footballers, but imagine driving into training every day and keeping yourself (kind of) fit for no reason whatsoever. Yeah you get a paycheque but you know you haven't earned it.

Rooney has maybe 2-3 seasons left in his career. I don't see him spending another sat on the bench just so he can pick up some money.

I'd have no issue what so ever sitting on evertons bench and earning a fat crust doing so.

But as none of us know how Rooney feels, nor what his aims are....

He's on a massive contract, his Mrs won't want to go to China, as she wants to be near her family. Getting him the books won't be cheap nor easy, his agent will extract the maximum he can get for himself and his client. He's got plenty of previous.
 
This. Plenty of football leaks documents have been proven doctored in what concerns portuguese football transfers.
Özil's, however, were correct / true.
 
Absolutely insane money in the game now, honestly. Free marketeers will say they are simply paid what they are worth, others will say that if there is this sort of money in the game then its only right that the players get a sizable share of it, but still.

It is objectively daft but it's all about supply and demand at the end of the day. It's the same with the rest of us sat in our cubicles, your pay is related to your skill set. It just so happens that the amount of people able to kick a ball around to that standard is a minuscule fraction of the population.

I'd have no issue what so ever sitting on evertons bench and earning a fat crust doing so.

But as none of us know how Rooney feels, nor what his aims are....

He's on a massive contract, his Mrs won't want to go to China, as she wants to be near her family. Getting him the books won't be cheap nor easy, his agent will extract the maximum he can get for himself and his client. He's got plenty of previous.

If we don't even know how Rooney feels, then how can we possibly know that his wife will piss on a move abroad?

I'd say it's a much safer bet to say that Rooney would want to spend his few remaining seasons actually playing football instead of wasting his time warming our bench just to pick up a marginally better salary.
 
That is a surreal amount of money for what a essentially is deal brokering. In financial services brokers charge 1% -2% of the deal value yet in football it seems to be anywhere from 10%-50%.

It's mad and absolutely bonkers. Needs regulating big time.
I couldn't agree more but FIFA/UEFA weakened agent regulation not long ago so agents can even make more money. No way in hell this will be tightened.
 
It is objectively daft but it's all about supply and demand at the end of the day. It's the same with the rest of us sat in our cubicles, your pay is related to your skill set. It just so happens that the amount of people able to kick a ball around to that standard is a minuscule fraction of the population.



If we don't even know how Rooney feels, then how can we possibly know that his wife will piss on a move abroad?

I'd say it's a much safer bet to say that Rooney would want to spend his few remaining seasons actually playing football instead of wasting his time warming our bench just to pick up a marginally better salary.
I know we don't know how Rooney feels but he's nearing the end of his career and may want to get as much as he can and stay in the country. The best way he can do this is stay at Utd. Utd would have to pay a huge proportion of his wages to get him to go Everton. Everton may only want to pay £50k per week.

I really don't see him or his wife moving to China and that's assuming they would pay for him. He had the chance to move abroad for big money before and chose Utd.
 
I know we don't know how Rooney feels but he's nearing the end of his career and may want to get as much as he can and stay in the country. The best way he can do this is stay at Utd. Utd would have to pay a huge proportion of his wages to get him to go Everton. Everton may only want to pay £50k per week.

I really don't see him or his wife moving to China and that's assuming they would pay for him. He had the chance to move abroad for big money before and chose Utd.

Yeah, it's a fair point. It depends what he values more; money or football. As we've already established though we can't possibly know that but I guess we'll soon find out.
 
F1 drivers get paid so much because out of the entire world there are only about 25 of them able to do it and they are also putting their life on the line every time they go on the track - as opposed to a few hundred or so of top level footballers in the world. It's a different situation and I think F1 drivers can basically charge what they want.

top footballers make a lot of money because they generate a lot of money
 
Jesus... what an expensive lesson to learn!! I am sure the money men will not letting talented young players leave the club any more without a buy back clause.
 
Jesus... what an expensive lesson to learn!! I am sure the money men will not letting talented young players leave the club any more without a buy back clause.

You can't put a buy back clause on someone who runs down his contract.
 
Zlatan came on a free transfer, so he was able to ask for more money in wages. That is the benefit of moving at the end of your contract. The risk of course is that you get a big injury as he now has.

Agree. Just consider half of his wage a signing bonus.

With the injury, it will be interesting to see how much Ibra will be offered (by anyone). Seems like MLS would be in the driver's seat, as they could sign him for 2018 and not worry about any lost games. A euro-team would offer a discounted contract since he would miss around half their games. Personally wouldn't mind re-signing him at a discount, but doubt it happens. At what price do you think he'd be worth it for United? Including his goal bonus, he's costing almost 22 mil this year, so I figure 6-7mil plus goal/appearance bonuses up to get to 9-10mil would be good business.
 
The only interested thing about all this to me is how the numbers are portrayed to us by the media and clubs. Pogba cost United 89m. Juventus didn't get that amount because almost 23m of that money went to his agent. We know this because Giuseppe Marotta, their club's director, said so. According to him they got about 65m for the sale and will receive 4,5m more if Pogba is sold for more than 50m or signs a new contract.

With that said, it's impossible to know how much money teams are getting for player sales which makes all that net spend talk useless.

Another thing of note. United sing a player for free, give him the biggest contract in the league, sign the most expensive player in the world and 2 others and report profits on their operating income.
 
Not the ridiculous wages that Madrid and its fans said they refused to pay for Pogba now is it?
Who is the Madrid poster who continually claimed Pogba was on 650k per week pre tax?
Me. And that's what Di Marzio reported at the time. Well now we know. He really isn't making that much all considered.

Now i really hope Pogba choose you, as opposed to Floren not trying hard to sign him
 
If we don't even know how Rooney feels, then how can we possibly know that his wife will piss on a move abroad?

I'd say it's a much safer bet to say that Rooney would want to spend his few remaining seasons actually playing football instead of wasting his time warming our bench just to pick up a marginally better salary.

She's been interviewed numerous times and stated she needs her family around her.

I'd say Rooney won't get a better contract from any team he'd want to join. So why would her leave? Bit part player at United on £300k a week or bit part player at Everton on £90k a week.
Money talks, he can focus on getting his coaching badges and have a happy family and a healthy income for a few years.
 
She's been interviewed numerous times and stated she needs her family around her.

I'd say Rooney won't get a better contract from any team he'd want to join. So why would her leave? Bit part player at United on £300k a week or bit part player at Everton on £90k a week.
Money talks, he can focus on getting his coaching badges and have a happy family and a healthy income for a few years.

How do you know she meant her uncle Pete and not just Wayne and the kids?

Bit part player at Everton on 90k, or main man in Shanghai on 500k? Pretty sure Coleen could buy a lot of handbags with that.

As for the part in bold, he's got one more year left on his deal. He'll be uprooting them soon whether they like it or not.
 
How do you know she meant her uncle Pete and not just Wayne and the kids?

Bit part player at Everton on 90k, or main man in Shanghai on 500k? Pretty sure Coleen could buy a lot of handbags with that.

As for the part in bold, he's got one more year left on his deal. He'll be uprooting them soon whether they like it or not.

Context was wider family, not just Wayne and the kids.
 
Btw Zlatan wages seems to be in line with what he was reported to be making at PSG, so very believable to me
 
No I watched on the tv years ago, she's also said the same stuff in women's magazines etc. I don't think loose women have a YouTube account. Google it if you're that bothered.

I just thought you were reading it from somewhere since you knew the wider context.

It's all speculation anyway, we'll know soon enough.
 
F1 drivers get paid so much because out of the entire world there are only about 25 of them able to do it and they are also putting their life on the line every time they go on the track - as opposed to a few hundred or so of top level footballers in the world. It's a different situation and I think F1 drivers can basically charge what they want.

But, a lot more kids attempt to be Footballers than try to become F1 drivers. So there is way more competition to the top in Football.
 
I just thought you were reading it from somewhere since you knew the wider context.

It's all speculation anyway, we'll know soon enough.

She loves Liverpool, she goes there all the time. She named it as the best place in the world. They go on holidays with her parents. She has an extensive list of quotes about how important her parents are to her. She has numerous business ties with the area. She isn't going anywhere. Wayne won't be allowed to leave her behind.

But regardless, getting back to your original post his £300k a week will likely get paid out in advance, so we won't be freeing up the cash, simply paying it off early. He'll take the club for everything he can, his agent isn't stupid.
 
Don't know if it's already been said before in the thread but Zlatans wage is that high because he signed on a free. His situation is totally different as well. He was shit hot on the market and a superstar of the highest proportions. Pogba on the other hand is young + cost a fortune already so the wage demands cannot be too high.
 
How do you know she meant her uncle Pete and not just Wayne and the kids?

Bit part player at Everton on 90k, or main man in Shanghai on 500k? Pretty sure Coleen could buy a lot of handbags with that.

As for the part in bold, he's got one more year left on his deal. He'll be uprooting them soon whether they like it or not.

I'm sure she earns enough herself and doesn't need to rely on her husband's move to fund herself.
 
For better or for worse, not all that Football Leaks releases is 100% accurate. So I take this with a grain of salt, specially Raiola's cut.

If by some chance he really got that much...judas fecken priest. The world has gone mad.
 
Me. And that's what Di Marzio reported at the time. Well now we know. He really isn't making that much all considered.

Now i really hope Pogba choose you, as opposed to Floren not trying hard to sign him

Don't think you had a chance to be honest mate.

Pogba's a Manc
 
F1 drivers get paid so much because out of the entire world there are only about 25 of them able to do it and they are also putting their life on the line every time they go on the track - as opposed to a few hundred or so of top level footballers in the world. It's a different situation and I think F1 drivers can basically charge what they want.

No, it's all relative. There's a great deal of money in F1 and therefore drivers quite rightly earn a percentage of that pie.

It's nothing to do with risk. F1 is worth in excess of £6b. Therefore drivers are paid handsomely for their services.

Similarly to footballers, F1 drivers would be leaving money on the table if they asked for any less - because they are critical to the value of their respective sports.
 
I have a theory, may be totally bullshit but...

Just find it a bit too much of a coincidence that this has been released now, with his contract running out and his future a bit unclear I think we've let this out maybe to soften the probable public backlash if we just decided to release an injured player.

Pogba's wage alongside it makes his seem more reasonable and would draw attention away from the obviousness of it if it was the case.
 
She loves Liverpool, she goes there all the time. She named it as the best place in the world. They go on holidays with her parents. She has an extensive list of quotes about how important her parents are to her. She has numerous business ties with the area. She isn't going anywhere. Wayne won't be allowed to leave her behind.

But regardless, getting back to your original post his £300k a week will likely get paid out in advance, so we won't be freeing up the cash, simply paying it off early. He'll take the club for everything he can, his agent isn't stupid.

I'm sure she does love Liverpool, but the point is we have no idea at all whether or not she'd entertain a move.

Also, why would the bolded bit happen? If he leaves this summer it'll be part of a transfer to another club which we would have to authorise. Unless we loan him out which is unlikely, why would we pay him off?
 
F1 drivers get paid so much because out of the entire world there are only about 25 of them able to do it and they are also putting their life on the line every time they go on the track - as opposed to a few hundred or so of top level footballers in the world. It's a different situation and I think F1 drivers can basically charge what they want.
There are drivers in F1 who (via sponsorship) pay the teams for their seat.