It's utterly shite.
Football is boring and lacks real superstars
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Football has become woke at every level.
Not a big fan of Baldball but this looks good and it working probably makes the kids happy. Kids aren't doing Ronaldinhoesque skills in these matches.
Passing across the face of goal though, these kids have a lot to learn and if they think they can do that shit every week then these unlikeable cnuts can feck off to hell
Genuinely kind of sad to see even 10 year old American kids playing Guardiola ball.
Little twats.
Back in my days that left back would be on a stretcher before he can play the pass.
Blame the coaches, encouraging that sort of filth in those age groups is tragic.
Yes, they look better than us. Who is their manager?
It's effective and wins trophies, but it's just the worst, most robotic football ever. It's like Guardiola is an AI, sent back in time to bore the piss out of everyone and rub it in our faces.
Cracking goal that, if we get even close to playing at their level the good times will be back!
First thing that I reacted is lack of tackles. I remember when I was that young we would be flying in with tackles. Get up. And just keep going.
You speak for everyone?
Personally, I enjoy that kind of football more than the longshot, crossing and flying tackles festival of the 00s. And I think it is the best platform to express individual brillance.By design, it is literally the opposite.You speak for everyone?
So in a time where we see less individually brilliant footballers you can't see a correlation? This way of playing is facilitated by the inconsistency of refereeing that allows first phase tactical fowling, such as we saw from Citeh through Fernandinho.You speak for everyone?
Yep bizarre comment that.
Absolutely spot on. Over supply of non relevant content has inevitably extracted the mystery out of the game. Fans are more interested in online squabbling than actual analysis. The transfer market is also over inflated in terms of fees not actually being a true reflection of the players abilities. Basically below average players are made to seem much better than they are and the ceiling of being a top player has come down crashing. Age has nothing to do with it, it is evident that quality has diminished and quantity has increased
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So we‘re sad now, because kids learn to play as a team?
It's not. Possession oriented football attempts to methodologically bring players with exceptional qualities in situations in which they can exploit said skills. We've seen this countless times with Guardiola for instance. He knows the strengths of his players, where and under which circumstances they love to receive the ball and he develops patterns of play that reliably and reproducable create those situations. And thus the system produces more occurrences of indivdual brillance than a more chaotic approach does.
And it doesn't really matter what the strengths of the players are. We've seen Guardiola and his peers "exploit" explosiveness and trickery of players such as Coman, Douglas Costa, Sané or Sterling the same way they exploited the long shot, passing and crossing skills of de Bruyne or the neat and tidy control of Iniesta and Bernardo Silva between the lines. Even attributes such as athleticism and heading prowess have been utilized with the likes of Haaland, Osimhen, Lewandowski, etc.
In fairness That's a nice football, but that's probably a team of all the best players from a particular age group, being coached at least 3 or 4 days a week.
There's no way a regular local team is going to have the time and resources to get a team of kids playing like that.
It's book learning football, I don't agree with it, I see people doing, does my head in. Young players would be better in the long run, if they are guided to figure the game out by themselves. The best players will always be the ones who can work it out and make the right decisions more often than not.
I'd even take it a step further and challenge the hypothesis that we see less individually brillant footballers these days.
I can’t wait till Pep buggers off and football cones full cycle again. Football is and always should be about entertainment for the fans in my opinion. Unfortunately with extreme commercialism comes extreme competitiveness. This the birth of stats about stats and tv shows with absolute dullards droning on about Xg.
Miss the days when players like R9, Cantona, Baggio, Zola, Juninho, Ronaldinho, Matt LeTissier and Gazza would have you on your edge of your seat or on your feet with the skill on display
Now instead of exciting eye food we get chicken and beans on display.
Miss the days when players like R9, Cantona, Baggio, Zola, Juninho, Ronaldinho, Matt LeTissier and Gazza would have you on your edge of your seat or on your feet with the skill on display
Now instead of exciting eye food we get chicken and beans on display.
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Complex drills are just that; we see many players who look quite fantastic within the system look entirely lost without it, to the point their ability is questioned by the masses. Finding optimisation within a system can make a player look special, but if that optimisation is not universal, it can hardly be declared individual brilliance.
There are very few individually brilliant players active. What we can say is that there are a fair amount who look like something special within the confines they’ve had drilled into them for months/years/decades. There’s maybe a handful of players that are on the up that are generally universally agreed upon as exceptional individuals, but that is not to say there aren’t a lot of players coming up who are performing well within a system.
The trials and tribulations of Foden are perhaps a prime example at the moment; one who knows only Pep and is thriving under him who basically has no identity or role for his national team until it relents and conforms more to what he has been imprinted with for his club. Contrast with Yamal, who is the very definition of excellence as an individual in or out of the system - there are far, far more of the former emerging over the latter.
The bottom end is being dragged up by automatisms whilst the top end is paying the price.
It seems like the majority of football fans have realized pressing focused football is boring as feck.
Capitalism ruins everything.
Such a good goals, thats very impressive.
That is not happening though, this is how football is and even if it changes, its not going back to what it was.
Nothing to do with it, its how competition works.
Unfortunately this is probably correct. It’s ruined. I’d hope the robotic shite will fade considerably, but it’s moved on now for better or worse from how it was.
Let’s see. Football always comes in cycles. Some new coach will happen along some day and have a different philosophy that everyone will start copying. Only it’ll be a philosophy we already know but perhaps just in a new way
What drives competition? Money is the root of the game these days. Its long past sporting reasons
That's just an empty statement people throw around. Football today is very different to any other time in football, there is no cycle.
It can, but its not the only thing that drives competition.
I’m not saying that it’s the only reason, but it is the main reason
I don’t think it’s empty. Teams certainly come in cycles. But time will tell
Yea teams do, inevitably you would think we will be a top team again, we cannot be this bad forever (no jinxing). Chelsea will also get better etc etc and City won't be the best pl team forever.
People just like to win. Chess is far more competitive and is well known to be terrible financially.
Hopefully City crash and burn back to the doldrums after their cheating is properly punished and Saudis sell up
Are people seriously moaning about that goal or is it some sort of inside joke I'm not in on? It's a fecking fantastic goal and exactly what football at that level should be about. I know passing the ball well is frowned upon in this forum, but come on, this is beyond parody now 