Grande
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Moving the goal posts are a good way of getting more goals from corners, and this is a fabulous example of moving the goal posts.
You may want to define top coaching as ‘getting the most shots on goal from corners’. I’m not with you on that one.
As for your early claim that we are particularlily bad at them, we are not.
As for you claim that it’s negligent to not focus more on them, it’s interesting to note that if Klopp was our corner coach, we would have gotten an incredible extra two goals over the course of the entire season. If Pep was, there’d be no difference.
Many of the top coaches spend relatively little time practicing corners because unless you are at the rock bottom end, it pays so little compared to spending that time practicing other stuff.
Absolutely as we cannot take a corner. Do you know that corners are a legitimate way of scoring goals? Otherwise there is no point in a corner? Can anyone tell me why he cannot coach is to take a decent corner? Do you ever watch good teams play football?
I was bored so i made one from understat figures for each team https://understat.com/team/Manchester_United/2019. We're below average but not the worst:
Team Corners Shots Goals Xg XgPerCorner ShotsPerCorner GoalsPerCorner Liverpool 258 86 11 7.83 0.030 0.333 0.043Everton 203 104 10 12.68 0.062 0.512 0.049West Ham 190 76 10 8.50 0.045 0.400 0.053Arsenal 231 77 9 6.94 0.030 0.333 0.039Burnley 171 69 8 12.15 0.071 0.404 0.047Man City 298 103 8 9.15 0.031 0.346 0.027Bournemouth 194 79 8 7.40 0.038 0.407 0.041Aston Villa 200 66 8 4.92 0.025 0.330 0.040Sheffield United 212 74 7 10.53 0.050 0.349 0.033Chelsea 247 106 7 9.70 0.039 0.429 0.028Tottenham 200 58 7 4.20 0.021 0.290 0.035Brighton 178 77 6 9.68 0.054 0.433 0.034Wolves 193 65 6 6.70 0.035 0.337 0.031Man United 204 64 6 6.54 0.032 0.314 0.029Newcastle 151 65 6 6.05 0.040 0.430 0.040Southampton 210 90 5 8.31 0.040 0.429 0.024Leicester 222 73 5 5.94 0.027 0.329 0.023Norwich 162 69 3 7.21 0.045 0.426 0.019Crystal Palace 177 66 2 5.03 0.028 0.373 0.011Watford 167 57 1 3.35 0.020 0.341 0.006Average 203.4 76.2 6.65 7.64 0.038 0.375 0.033
Only Spurs and Watford had less shots on goal than us. That is not a good number.
You may want to define top coaching as ‘getting the most shots on goal from corners’. I’m not with you on that one.
As for your early claim that we are particularlily bad at them, we are not.
As for you claim that it’s negligent to not focus more on them, it’s interesting to note that if Klopp was our corner coach, we would have gotten an incredible extra two goals over the course of the entire season. If Pep was, there’d be no difference.
Many of the top coaches spend relatively little time practicing corners because unless you are at the rock bottom end, it pays so little compared to spending that time practicing other stuff.