FINAL - Skizzo VS Cal - All time 3 yr peak - Auction Draft

Who would win based on their 3 yr peak?


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Formation: 3-5-2/5-3-2

This is the most difficult tactical write up we’ve written in this draft, partly due to the quality of Cal’s team, and even more so because we have no idea how he’s going to line up. He can persist with the Xaviesta, tiki taka style that has brought him this far, dispense with the Barca brigade entirely, or opt for something in between. Each has its strengths and its weaknesses, and initially we’re guessing he’ll go for the final option.

We continue with the 3-5-2/5-3-2 from our previous match versus Green Smiley, with a straight substitution of Rijkaard coming in for Tardelli, as its well equipped for dealing with any of those options. Our reasons are twofold:

1) Whichever formation Cal chooses, he’s going to be playing inverted wingers. There’s few more capable or suitable centre backs for them to be turning infield to than Ruggeri or Figueroa. Ruggeri the rugged stopper who can nullify Ronaldo in the air, Figueroa the teak-tough, sublime all-rounder who can match up with Messi as well as any defender in the draft. As he was against Di Stefano last time around, Scirea is one of the very best available to keep tabs on the deeper-lying, playmaking incarnation of Pele.
2) The truly great liberos, of which Scirea was one of a tiny few, give such a great range of in-match tactical options. If Cal sits deeper, then Scirea can advance into defensive midfield. The options are magnified by our central midfielders – Rijkaard himself has played the pivotal hybrid defender/midfielder role for the great Ajax 1995 team, while Van Hanegem can advance into attacking midfield with all the ability that his 1 goal in 3 matches for Feyenoord record suggests.

Where We’ll Win:

Versus Tiki-Taka:

Probably the most dangerous and voter-friendly option available to Cal, yet the one that we’re particularly well-matched against tactically. We’ll gladly allow Cal an edge in possession, whilst we sit deep and allow our superb defence and wonderful midfield shield to regain possession and quickly shift play to Maradona/Eusebio/Van Basten. With two ultra attacking full backs in Roberto Carlos and Dani Alves, coupled with a high line defence, our attackers will pulverise them.

As for the high press neutralising our counter, that’s highly unlikely in this company. Our one defender who is relatively poor in possession, Ruggeri, will be nearest Ronaldo, the most blatant weak link in Cal’s high press. Van Hanegem and Rijkaard could hardly be better suited to dealing with the high press. Van Hanegem in particular, has the footwork to evade it and the passing to exploit the gaps. GIFs to follow for any non-believers.

Versus non-Tiki-Taka:

We doubt Cal will opt for this, as it would entail the nuclear option of dropping Messi for Robben. It would still be a good team, albeit one that would still run into the difficulty of inverted wingers vs our all-time great defence. We’ll have a pivotal advantage here in midfield – Rijkaard/Van Hanegem/Maradona is the better unit than Makelele/Schweinsteiger/Zidane, and most pivotally Maradona will have so much more joy versus Makelele than Zidane will versus Rijkaard.

Conceding his stylistic advantage entirely, we’d be happy to go head to head in terms of player quality, and we have Gullit ready to come off the bench to press home our advantage against Carlos on the left side of his defence.

Versus The Hybrid:


Ultimately this is where we think Cal will go, but the fundamentals of our tactics remain intact – the three man central defence versus his inverted wingers and Pele, the brilliantly balanced midfield of Rijkaard/Van Hanegem.

Cal himself has been the most vocal exponent of Messi only thriving in a specific style of play, so we’ll reserve further comment on our attacking tactics, and on this tactic in general, until the match begins!


Why we'll win:

We've already explained how we plan on stopping his threat. Everything comes centrally. Pele dropping deep, Ronaldo and Messi both cutting inside, and Zidane pushing up into the hole. We have not only a stacked defence with Figueroa, Ruggeri and Scirea, but with Van Hanegem and Rijkaard ahead of them, they form an impressive shield in front of Jennings. If Cal does opt to play how we think he will (in the hybrid, with Zidane and Makelele coming in for Iniesta and Bastian) then he nullifies some of his own biggest threats.

Without a Barca midfield, Xavi isn't the same player, and (possibly more importantly) neither is Messi. Cal has made that point countless times himself, which we'll be glad to highlight through the match, that Messi without a Barcelona set up built around him isn't as effective.

Also, with Carlos and Alves, you need a shield in front that will help protect the defence. However he lines up, his midfield will be too "lightweight" to stop the threat of Maradona, Eusebio, Van Basten, and Rijkaard/Van Hanegem attacking when the chance arises.

Cal will also play on Ronaldo's aerial ability. With the defensive space as crowded as it will be, Ronaldo won't be able to find as much space to attack in the air, plus we have players who are very good in the air defensively as well. On the flip side, we still have VB and Eusebio who can be just as dangerous aerially, especially with the space to run into when Cabrini/Amoros get space to cross.


---------------------------------TEAM SKIZZO
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Tactics - Cal?
Firstly, no more Tiki-taka for this game, Skizzo is clearly going with a Catenaccio (the modern day Mourinho A380) tactic, and like it or not, it's probably had the most success against Pep's Barca sides.

So, I'll still be looking to dominate possession in this game, but with a more conventional 4-3-3. His lack of wingers should allow my very attacking pair of FBs to press high up the field, at the same time, with arguably the best DM ever in Makelele helping to cover the defence against the threat of Maradona and when he does that, Messi can drop into midfield to help maintain/win back possession whilst Cristiano and Pele will still provide plenty of threat for his defenders. My defence now has 2 of the quickest CBs in Maldini and Rio who both excel at the reading of the game and will make it very hard for Maradona, Van Basten or his partner to get any room.

In midfield, ahead of Makelele, are Zidane and Xavi, 2 of the greatest midfielders the world as ever seen, providing balls for the ultimate front 3, Messi, Pele & Ronaldo really should need no introduction.

GK
Schmeichel (96-99)
, probably the best keeper ever.

DF
Roberto Carlos (00-03)
, one of the best attacking LBs ever, one of the original Galaticos when they actually won a lot.
Maldini (01-04), one of the best defenders ever, winning everything there is to win with Milan in a career that span more than 2 decades, 5 time CL winner.
Ferdinand (06-09), needs no introduction here, our best CB in Sir Alex's best period.
Dani Alves (08-11), a key part of the Barca Sextuple.

DM
Makélélé (00-03)
, key player for Real's Galaticos I, and his sale basically cased the collapse of the Zidane & Pavon model.
MF
Xavi (08-11)
, basically won everything there is to win in those 3 seasons, the World Cup, the Euro, 2 CLs, 3 La Ligas, including that Sextuple in 2009.
Zidane (00-03), the ultimate big game player and one of the greatest players ever, 2 goals in a WC final and maybe the best CL final goal ever.

FW
Cristiano Ronaldo (11-14)
, 166 goals for Real Madrid during those 3 seasons, Ballon d'Or 13 & 14, La Liga in 12 and finally La Decima in 2014, possibly the greatest player ever.
Messi (08-11), Ballon d'Or in all 3 years, winning everything with Barca, also possibly the greatest player ever.
Pelé (68-71), Widely accepted as one of the 2 best players ever until around 2010. 1283 goals in 1363 games, a ratio unseen over prolonged periods until the other 2 of my forwards came onto the scene.

SUBS
Lahm (11-14)
, 3 players where he won everything there is to win as a key player for Bayern & Germany.
Vidic (06-09), formed a great understanding with Rio during those years we dominated Europe.
Schweinsteiger (11-14), key player for the Bayern side which halted Barca's reign, winning the Treble in 2013 and the World Cup in 2014.
Iniesta (08-11), World Cup final winner, the other half of the Xaviesta partnership that won everything.
Andriy Shevchenko (01-04), one of the best strikers of the 00s in his Milan days, Ballon D'Or winner in 2004.
Robben (11-14), some believe to the the 3rd best player in the world, a key player for Bayern's recent domination in Germany and also Treble winner in 2013.

Opposition
Skizzo will have his team set up to defend, and get to ball to Maradona to set up his attacks. I've set my team up to exploit the fact that he's not playing any wingers and also have Makelele to help defend against Maradona. Further up the pitch, my all star front 3 will have plenty of supply from Zidane and Xavi, 2 of the greatest at finding passes in tight areas. The fullbacks will also have the chance to venture forwards to supply crosses and who better than Cristiano to get at the end of those. :D
 
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No German? Not a single one? Two underwhelming teams for the final, clearly.
 
Skizzo completely convinced me with his tactics here, I think Cal? went for the wrong reinforcement with Carlos and should've gone either no possession domination or full possession domination. That kind-of dominating possession idea is the perfect fit for Skizzo, as against a possession game which doesn't have the lethal touch of Xaviniesta he's more likely to be safe soaking pressure with that incredible defensive build, and capitalize on the counter. Against Xaviniesta-Barca type of possession game I'd be thinking "hey, maybe that front line can beat that defense with all that possession", and I'd have to really think my mind before deciding, without it, it looks like a possession game with tons of great players upfront but it's facing a brick wall which is ready for it.

I'll probably vote Skizzo's way, but taking a few hours of considering and reading through.
 
I've set my team up to exploit the fact that he's not playing any wingers

I'm not sure how Cal has established an advantage here. He's playing Ronaldo and Messi in the wide forward roles, who will be cutting infield constantly, which leaves Cabrini/Amoros vs Roberto Carlos/Dani Alves as the genuine wide players on the pitch. We're very well set up to deal with the crosses that do come in, with Figueroa, Ruggeri, Van Hanegem and Rijkaard all being excellent in the air.
 
what viva said, Carlos is the most pointless addition in this draft, shame as cal? did great job before in that department.
 
I was about to vote for Cal till I saw Zidane... He was better off in 4-2-3-1 or even in Juve's 4-3-1-2. And Skizzo is set up perfectly to counter Zidane even if he moves up. I don't think the existing midfield can cope up and dominate possession in a 4-3-3 with Zidane. Leaning towards Skizzo.
 
I was about to vote for Cal till I saw Zidane... He was better off in 4-2-3-1 or even in Juve's 4-3-1-2. And Skizzo is set up perfectly to counter Zidane even if he moves up. I don't think the existing midfield can cope up and dominate possession in a 4-3-3 with Zidane. Leaning towards Skizzo.

Aye, I strongly fancy Maradona to have a better game than Zidane here. He's the better player, and faces less impressive resistance in Xavi/Makelele than Zidane does against Rijkaard/Van Hanegem.

Skizzo completely convinced me with his tactics here, I think Cal? went for the wrong reinforcement with Carlos and should've gone either no possession domination or full possession domination. That kind-of dominating possession idea is the perfect fit for Skizzo, as against a possession game which doesn't have the lethal touch of Xaviniesta he's more likely to be safe soaking pressure with that incredible defensive build, and capitalize on the counter. Against Xaviniesta-Barca type of possession game I'd be thinking "hey, maybe that front line can beat that defense with all that possession", and I'd have to really think my mind before deciding, without it, it looks like a possession game with tons of great players upfront but it's facing a brick wall which is ready for it.

I'll probably vote Skizzo's way, but taking a few hours of considering and reading through.

Agreed. We feel we were well set up for whatever Cal threw at us, but we're happy he's went with this 'middling' approach. Xavi's game-running abilities are significantly eroded outside of the tiki-taka system, and out of possession he's got a big struggle on his hands to win the ball back from our technically brilliant midfielders.

Its worth mentioning that Cal himself has repeatedly denied Messi's effectiveness outside of the tiki-taka system:

Messi needs the whole system built around him, as witnessed by his performances for Barca v Argentina.

However, in Messi's case, failure after failure in both World Cups & Copa Americas seem to indicate his inability to perform without the Barca clan.

This...

Messi still can't win anything without the Barca crew... :smirk: maybe Argentina should try wearing red and blue.
 
Its worth mentioning that Cal himself has repeatedly denied Messi's effectiveness outside of the tiki-taka system:


i dont agree with cal on that but as he is managing Leo he might convince him into that and we would see Messi going into this game low on confidence and in poor form :cool:
 
Thought Cals defense was solid and in no need of switching. The "problem" i had when i picked Zidane in the EURO draft was that it restricted the tactial flexibility. I had to play him behind the striker/above 2 more defensive minded mids. The balance isn't there.

With Zidane, for me it has to be:

Alves - Rio - Vidic - Maldini
--- Schweini - Makelele ---
Messi --- Zidane -- Ronaldo
----------- Pele ------------

Also, this is the final, right? Could add that to the thread title.
 
Ok, since I've dropped behind early on in the game, have to go with a more attacking formation...

2 substitutions: Schweiny for Makelele and Iniesta for Zidane.

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We'll revert back to full tiki-taka!!

Significant upgrades on the "Bestest team in the world ever ever" (Barca 09).

The CBs are miles better than Pique, Puyol, Ronaldo & Pele obviously better than Villa & Pedro.
 
The opponents that Skizzo and Pat have faced in the last two rounds have made sideways manoeuvres. In contrast, Skizzo and Pat have been able to slowly strengthen after the initial clusterfeck and are now looking altogether more cohesive and robust.

However, Cal's looking a lot better since he made the change. And I'm buying that back four more than the one we faced in the semi-final. While Carlos was a surprise move, I can see him thriving in this set-up both with the natural coverage from Maldini plus his almost unique ability to dominate the flank in the same way he did for Real and Brazil with a similarly possession-dominant set-up.
 
Aye Cal, almost suicide early on starting with that midfield!

Makelele, Schweinsteiger and Xavi would have been good balance as well & physically intimidating. & a bit more direct then the tiki taka duo of Xavi-Iniesta.
 
I voted early. Just feels a tad bit too much to believe such a drastic tactical change for me. Especially considering it is to Tiki-Taka which is a system that is so hard to play and it is all about perfect synchronization and every player being completely dedicated to performing their role for 90 minutes.

I still have the same issues as in the last game with Pele and Ronaldo not being suited for the Tiki-taka at all and they are just big names squeezed in there. Carlos I can see do a very good job in the setup considering that Ronaldo likes to cut inside and so does Messi so two offensively dominating full backs makes sense even if it opens up paths to concede as well.

If Cal had started with the Tiki-Taka and gone more in depth about it, why Pele and Ronaldo would be able to thrive in that defensive structure etc I would have probably gone with a draw.

I think such a radical change within minutes of the game would have major negative effects in comparison to a team that was set out to do it from the start. Considering how tight it was regardless it becomes the deciding factor for me.
 
A few points to emphasise now that Cal has reverted to tiki-taka. Firstly, in a system that relied on a whole team effort for the high press, Cal has a passenger in Ronaldo and late-career Pele who hardly got his hands dirty defensively. In any case, we have the players to handle a high press. Scirea, Figueroa, Rijkaard and Van Hanegem were superb and completely unflustered in possession, and the only weak link on the ball in Ruggeri will be in Ronaldo's zone.

Secondly, he has two ultra-attacking full backs in Alves and Roberto Carlos, giving up the defensive security that Abidal provided at left back during Pep's two CL winning seasons. There'll be ample space to attack behind that high line defence, and Maradona and Eusebio will be in their element breaking into that space. As good as Ferdinand and Maldini were, its a brutal assignment they've got there.

We're happy to allow Cal the majority of possession. We've got a brilliant 5 man defence with top class midfield ball-winners shielding them. We will win the ball back often enough, and we have the quality on the ball in deep areas to spring Cal's high line repeatedly. Van Hanegem, in particular, was a superb passer.
 
A few points to emphasise now that Cal has reverted to tiki-taka. Firstly, in a system that relied on a whole team effort for the high press, Cal has a passenger in Ronaldo and late-career Pele who hardly got his hands dirty defensively. In any case, we have the players to handle a high press. Scirea, Figueroa, Rijkaard and Van Hanegem were superb and completely unflustered in possession, and the only weak link on the ball in Ruggeri will be in Ronaldo's zone.

Secondly, he has two ultra-attacking full backs in Alves and Roberto Carlos, giving up the defensive security that Abidal provided at left back during Pep's two CL winning seasons. There'll be ample space to attack behind that high line defence, and Maradona and Eusebio will be in their element breaking into that space. As good as Ferdinand and Maldini were, its a brutal assignment they've got there.

We're happy to allow Cal the majority of possession. We've got a brilliant 5 man defence with top class midfield ball-winners shielding them. We will win the ball back often enough, and we have the quality on the ball in deep areas to spring Cal's high line repeatedly. Van Hanegem, in particular, was a superb passer.
How is Ronaldo a passenger? He's more than capable of playing the role Villa played and put in a shift. Also his movement will keep your defenders at bay.

As seen in this past season at Barca, having 3 great attackers will get you goals in most circumstances, and needless to say Ronaldo and Pele are much better than Suarez and Neymar.
 
I don't know, honestly.

See, the thing is this: Cal has got Messi 08-11 on the pitch, which is very significant. That version of Messi is probably my favourite, all things said and done. I'm looking forward to seeing the actual mature version - as I picture it, an attacking midfielder of rare calibre - but for now the wide-ish Messi from those years is my favourite. And he would easily link up beautifully with the mature Pelé who's on the pitch here. Ronaldo is the odd man out, as per usual. Buying this, means buying the concept of Ronaldo a) taking a step back and being less of a main man and b) contributing to the attacking play as such to the required degree.

I don't see him doing that.

And Schweinsteiger in the Biscuits role? No. It's not enough. It can't be enough at this stage. It wasn't in the semi and it certainly ain't now.

And reverting back to tiki-taka - but still retaining TWO mainly offensive fullbacks? Against THAT offensive threat? No. That's where the system breaks down. There's too much offensive quality on the other side, and with the usual combo (only, in my opinion, actually a weaker one with Schweinsteiger playing Biscuit's part) in the middle there's not enough to keep them at bay.

Cal doesn't have enough to keep both the wingbacks (who now operate in a system the basic Barca model is anything but suited for) and the central threat of Maradona, in check.

And Pat/Skizzo is solid as hell at the back. They need to be - of course - because even if the system ain't perfect, that front trio will cause problems sooner or later. But it won't be enough. Both side backs/wing backs are defensively solid, though, more so than than their FB counterparts on the other side.

Another 2-1 or so.

But Pat/Skizzo win.
 
@Annahnomoss

Or any one else for that matter.

What would be your all time tiki taki XI?

Ronaldo is still the odd man out and with R Carlos without Makalele looks too attacking even for me.

Skiz has a much more coherent side. I reckon it's end up 3-1 Skiz
 
How is Ronaldo a passenger? He's more than capable of playing the role Villa played and put in a shift. Also his movement will keep your defenders at bay.

As seen in this past season at Barca, having 3 great attackers will get you goals in most circumstances, and needless to say Ronaldo and Pele are much better than Suarez and Neymar.

He's never been a hard worker defensively, even early in his career at Utd, and certainly not at Real. Its a huge stretch to imagine him replicating Villa's workrate.
 
I see Cal has the most exciting team to watch. 3 GOAT players in attack with a constant supply from midfield that averaging 80% possession?
 
He's never been a hard worker defensively, even early in his career at Utd, and certainly not at Real. Its a huge stretch to imagine him replicating Villa's workrate.

It's also a matter of, say, cohesiveness: You need a player whose purely offensive qualities doesn't come directly at the expense of his lack of defensive contribution. Or, for that matter, at the expense of his offensive, but not final (in terms of finishing, that is) contributions. Cristiano Ronaldo isn't that man - there's zero evidence that he is. We have to buy a pure fantasy Ronaldo in order to make this work.

In my opinion.
 
I don't know, honestly.

See, the thing is this: Cal has got Messi 08-11 on the pitch, which is very significant. That version of Messi is probably my favourite, all things said and done. I'm looking forward to seeing the actual mature version - as I picture it, an attacking midfielder of rare calibre - but for now the wide-ish Messi from those years is my favourite. And he would easily link up beautifully with the mature Pelé who's on the pitch here. Ronaldo is the odd man out, as per usual. Buying this, means buying the concept of Ronaldo a) taking a step back and being less of a main man and b) contributing to the attacking play as such to the required degree.

I don't see him doing that.

And Schweinsteiger in the Biscuits role? No. It's not enough. It can't be enough at this stage. It wasn't in the semi and it certainly ain't now.

And reverting back to tiki-taka - but still retaining TWO mainly offensive fullbacks? Against THAT offensive threat? No. That's where the system breaks down. There's too much offensive quality on the other side, and with the usual combo (only, in my opinion, actually a weaker one with Schweinsteiger playing Biscuit's part) in the middle there's not enough to keep them at bay.

Cal doesn't have enough to keep both the wingbacks (who now operate in a system the basic Barca model is anything but suited for) and the central threat of Maradona, in check.

And Pat/Skizzo is solid as hell at the back. They need to be - of course - because even if the system ain't perfect, that front trio will cause problems sooner or later. But it won't be enough. Both side backs/wing backs are defensively solid, though, more so than than their FB counterparts on the other side.

Another 2-1 or so.

But Pat/Skizzo win.

A fine analysis that. The bolded part is key. As good as Ferdinand and Maldini were, there's just far too much ground for them to cover here against Maradona, Eusebio and Van Basten.
 
What an absolute let down of an upgrade by Cal.
Yes. Carlos was a howler I am afraid. On the flip side I see Skizzo's team and I think his full backs are just a notch below what you would except in a all time draft final. His formation is made for some one like Nilton Santos but as it is it will dependent too much on Diego to create.
 
Yes. Carlos was a howler I am afraid. On the flip side I see Skizzo's team and I think his full backs are just a notch below what you would except in a all time draft final. His formation is made for some one like Nilton Santos but as it is it will dependent too much on Diego to create.
Maybe they are, but with the 3 men behind them in Ruggeri-Scirea-Figueroa I don't see it as a problem, they'll be facing relatively fine amount of freedom to burst forward on the counters with that cover, and as someone here mentioned, at the defensive side they'll mostly face Alves/Carlos and not wingers who will mostly come inside.
 
Maybe they are, but with the 3 men behind them in Ruggeri-Scirea-Figueroa I don't see it as a problem, they'll be facing relatively fine amount of freedom to burst forward on the counters with that cover, and as someone here mentioned, at the defensive side they'll mostly face Alves/Carlos and not wingers who will mostly come inside.
But that's my point.. he should have top tier full backs in the finals for this formation IMO. I don't want to undersell Cabirini but in an all time final you expect to see likes of Nilton, Krol, Fachetti.
 
@Annahnomoss

Or any one else for that matter.

What would be your all time tiki taki XI?

Ronaldo is still the odd man out and with R Carlos without Makalele looks too attacking even for me.

Skiz has a much more coherent side. I reckon it's end up 3-1 Skiz
Tough one, I guess it could be differed by personal preferences.
Without thinking it through too much, I'd say something like:

Shmeichel
Cafu -- Kohler -- Baresi -- Fachetti
Rijkaard---
-----Xavi
Iniesta---
Messi ------------------------- Best?
Maradona
It probably has tons of flaws, but the idea is having the trio of Rijkaard-Xavi-Iniesta, with one very offensive RB, one more defensive LB who can still shift decent effort in attack, with one ball playing CB and one stopper(Kohler can be replaced with tons of other good CBs, just think him and Baresi is brilliant). Going forward Messi has to be RiF for his movements inside, I've placed Maradona as the false 9 but for me he can trade with Messi easily and Best is just because I had no fecking clue and didn't care enough to think hard.

Probably just a load of bollocks from me.
 
Yes. Carlos was a howler I am afraid. On the flip side I see Skizzo's team and I think his full backs are just a notch below what you would except in a all time draft final. His formation is made for some one like Nilton Santos but as it is it will dependent too much on Diego to create.

Even Cabrini? As far as attacking left backs go there's not many I'd pick ahead of him. Amoros, granted, is very good but if we had another reinforcement pick we'd have strongly considered bringing in someone like Cafu I'm sure.

I disagree that over-dependence on Maradona for creativity is an issue for us. Firstly, he's going to have a tonne of freedom against an outgunned Schweinsteiger and Cal's undermanned defence. Secondly, we have creativity elsewhere. Van Hanegem's passing is top class, and Eusebio is well capable of creating hs own chances or linking wih Van Basten.
 
On the flip side I see Skizzo's team and I think his full backs are just a notch below what you would except in a all time draft final.

Aye - just below. But they're both wing backs, they both fit the system, and they're both defensively solid (enough).

And they can, given the opponent's set-up, operate in a pretty much ideal environment with that core-of-three plus defensively sound (Van H.) and defensively excellent (Rijkaard) in front of 'em.

I don't agree that the formula depends too much on Maradona to create - I rather think the exact same criticism I leveled at Cal in the semi applies here: Maradona can operate to some extent. He isn't shackled enough. There's a basic three-versus-three midfield...thing (I hate the concept of a midfield "battle") going on here, with Schweinsteiger the only one capable of taking Maradona out - AND a couple of wing backs who provide exactly what a Barca'esque team does not want. Not to mention that the two lads up front are...well. They're hell. Uncommonly hellish. Rio and Maldini will have their hands full with them. The fullbacks are lacking defensively in an all-time final - and who's to make up for that? Schweinsteiger? Whose main task is presumably to keep an eye on Diego Maradona, who is constantly looking to break free OR play that crucial pass out wide to one of the wing back runners, OR through the middle to either Van Basten or Eusebio? Sorry, no. That ain't working for ninety minutes.
 
But that's my point.. he should have top tier full backs in the finals for this formation IMO. I don't want to undersell Cabirini but in an all time final you expect to see likes of Nilton, Krol, Fachetti.
Not every player can be a GOAT even at this stage, nor it should because than it would be kind of boring. Schweinsteiger and Makalele aren't GOATS, I guess in an all time final prospective even Rio could've been upgraded with the pool quite easily, doesn't mean they don't belong here.
 
Being outnumbered in midfield vs that Cal team is never a good idea, changes are needed.
 
Even Cabrini? As far as attacking left backs go there's not many I'd pick ahead of him. Amoros, granted, is very good but if we had another reinforcement pick we'd have strongly considered bringing in someone like Cafu I'm sure.

I disagree that over-dependence on Maradona for creativity is an issue for us. Firstly, he's going to have a tonne of freedom against an outgunned Schweinsteiger and Cal's undermanned defence. Secondly, we have creativity elsewhere. Van Hanegem's passing is top class, and Eusebio is well capable of creating hs own chances or linking wih Van Basten.

I have already voted for you so you are better off spending your energy elsewhere.