For me yes. It's about what you've experienced. My first World Cup was 1990 and I was 14 at Euro 96 so my childhood in England terms was defined by those tournaments where we came so close. After that England were terrible until 2018. In contrast I lived through a period of incredible success supporting United basically experiencing the whole of Fergie's glory years. I'm close to 40 now so I don't get as emotionally invested as I used to so United being relatively average doesn't trouble me all that much given what I've seen. I'd love to see England win this but I'm actually just happy to see England not being shit. Low expectations perhaps.
Final: Italy vs England
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For me yes. It's about what you've experienced. My first World Cup was 1990 and I was 14 at Euro 96 so my childhood in England terms was defined by those tournaments where we came so close. After that England were terrible until 2018. In contrast I lived through a period of incredible success supporting United basically experiencing the whole of Fergie's glory years. I'm close to 40 now so I don't get as emotionally invested as I used to so United being relatively average doesn't trouble me all that much given what I've seen. I'd love to see England win this but I'm actually just happy to see England not being shit. Low expectations perhaps.
Mental this needs saying really
Odds reflect betting. People will be betting with their hearts. It effectively means nothing
Disappointed in some of you England fans it’s a massive match and you should be overjoyed with it, out sticking flairs up your arse and such things..
We English don’t have social skills, so we stick flares up our bums to impress our friends.
Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight 
For me 100%
Sky saying Trippier back in
---------------Pickford---------------
--Walker--Stones--Maguire--
Trippier--Rice--Phillips--Shaw
----------------Mount----------------
-------Kane-----------Sterling-------
---------------Pickford---------------
--Walker--Stones--Maguire--
Trippier--Rice--Phillips--Shaw
----------------Mount----------------
-------Kane-----------Sterling-------
Ah shit, get well mate.Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
This is on par with us reaching our Champions league finals for me.
Born in 91 and I've never seen England achieve greatness so this is quite special.
It was always going to happen.
Also, British policing techniques tend to a bit more soft-handed than in other places. They let things go in the first instance to avoid stirring up aggro, then go in quietly later to make the arrests. It makes for a handful of embarrassing videos on Twitter, but leads to better crowd control in the long run.
That coke snorter in 100% going to be in handcuffs right now.
Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
Oh, that's terrible news mate. I hope you're okay.
No, but seriously it’s a massive match that might only come once in a lifetime enjoy it..
Yeah a thing I keep seeing people mention is how it's nice to finally see England in a final regardless of the result. And living over here it is quite enjoyable watching everyone getting amped up One of my brothers is off to a England party, there is some sense of community.
Still at kick off I will be wearing my Maradona shirt and putting on Franco Battiato at full blast!
We will be in the WC final next year!
I’ve a feeling the people are going to go wild tonight and not in a good way. If they lose it’ll be like Armageddon.
I'm not sticking a flaming flare of death up my backside no matter how much you beg.
Just no.
Some people enjoy snorting cocaine and sticking flares up their arse. It takes all sorts, as they say.
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This actually looks attacking. Will mean a very high midfield line with Rice basically playing CB when England have the ball and Trippier and Shaw as wingers.
Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
Ditto to that one!
England are also favourites on Spanish betting sites:
And German betting sites:
And before anyone says it's English betting that's swaying the odds, I had to use VPN to access the site in each country.
Guess some people handle their emotions differently. Some will get excited, have a pint and enjoy the game while others stick stuff up their bums.
England are definitely favoures at shades of odds on. Italy are evens. If it goes to extra time the bookies clean up.
you realise being jabbed isn’t supposed to make you stop catching the virus right? it just helps you defend against the symptoms.Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
people seem to think once they get 2 jabs you can’t catch it for some reason. anyway get better soon!
It's not too late to find a flare.Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
Well fair play for being responsible and staying home a lot wouldn’t..Double jabbed but tested positive for covid so spending it laid in bed on my own, not quite how I pictured tonight
Not a chance. United > England.
Probably a few of them in that pub queue.
We've established from your posting during this tournament you've not seen much football before nor is your knowledge particularly respected.
Me personally, am at home with my 2 year old. I’m enjoying myself a lot.
England fans in the main will be fine, it’s the minority that get the headlines. If it was in Italy tonight I’m sure we’d hear about some Italians doing bad things
Any significant variation in odds across markets will be quickly arbitraged away by professional gamblers and brought back into line.England are also favourites on Spanish betting sites:
And German betting sites:
And before anyone says it's English betting that's swaying the odds, I had to use VPN to access the site in each country.
Cheers mate. I can see it now…England win….I’m relieved as feck….stroll in tomorrow and the bloke introduces himself….”Hi I’m Dr Mario Gratziolli”
Look, all I’m saying is don’t knock it till you’ve tried it….
Wait, what the hell, you.....have a negative opinion about England? You've kept it well hidden throughout the last few weeks. But hey at least Rashford isn't playing.
For me it's United over England but I'm well aware I might not see this again in my lifetime and whatever the result it's been a great tournament for England and the country so far. Just hope we can get over the line. Especially after the disappointment of the Europa final!
England escaped that match. If Germany had their usual cold-blooded striker instead of wasteful, inept Werner, they would’ve gone up 1-0, and Muller would’ve sealed it.
As a neutral, Southgate’s team selection is always uninspiring. They were so dynamic vs. Ukraine, yet he reverts to form.
Heart leans England, head says Italy. Classic reverse jinx, I’m picking Italy 2-0.
Yeah you get idiots everywhere, good luck anyway!
Thankfully, the England management and fans aren't as arrogant about the team as you seem to be.