I thought that the scousers at KopTalk were bad after they loose a game, saying this player is shit and that player must be sold and this that and the other, but reading through some of the comments made on here after last nights result (especially rearding Verón) I am fecking amazed!
What the hell is the point of all this whinging and moaning eh? Ok, we had a below par game, but to start calling the players (especially Verón) shite and not worthy, is way over the top. Let's face it, we simply had a below par game (it happens people), but it wasn't as bad as some people are making out, and a draw at home isn't exactly the end of the world is it? All we have to do now is go and get a result away - we did it against Deportivo, we just did it against Chelsea, so what is the difference against Bayer Leverkusen? Ok, it's a cup match and they will go through with a draw, but I don't think that they are a team who will go looking for a draw. Let's face it, we are good enough to win, and if we cant win then we dont deserve the European Cup!
Some people are also forgetting that we were without Keane, Beckham, G Neville (Bayer hardly crossed the halfway line when he was playing, our defense was well on top of them), Johnsen, and Fortune! And a Verón that wasn't 100% match fit! Good god, what other team can you think of that could even cope with their squad in such a state?
And now onto the Verón knockers (usually Beckham lovers) and their predictable return to the forum after our poor result.
Just a few points:
1) Who would you have played instead of Verón last night? And don't say Keane, because even playing him at the end was a huge risk, and even for next week it is highly dangerous to play him in light of his yellow card situation. Would anyone really want to put him through the experience of missing another final if we get there? Would anyone want to risk his hamstring too early so that he might possibly miss the World Cup? Is anyone that selfish?
2) Why have these knockers so easily forgot the performance Verón put in against Deportivo? If it hadn't been for Verón we might not even be in this semi-final.
3) Veron is a mainly a central midfield player, and should be played in that position just like he was against Deportivo. Playing on the right hand side doesn't exploit his talent anywhere near enough, in fact it seriously wastes it. He constantly has to keep coming into midfield looking for the ball which at times leaves too much space on the right for the opposition. This is also the case with Beckham, except for the fact the Beckham believes that he is a central midfield player when he is not. Verón on the other hand is a central midfield player.
4) Why do people excpect a 100% performance from a player that isn't 100% match fit? His injury is probably still bothering him as well which would hinder his physical performance.
5) Some people in having a go at Verón sound like it was his fault that Bayer Leverkusen scored two goals. WTF? That couldn't be put down to the fact that we made several defensive blunders could it? But nobody is knocking them.
If we wanted to win why didn't we score more ourselves? Oh, I know why, because we didn't exactly look too hot in front of goal did we? For some reason RVN's touch eluded him last night and Solskjaer went AWOL for 75 minutes, but who's knocking them? Again, nobody! Believe it or not people, sometimes things don't click and players are not quite on form. That was the problem with our attack last night, it just wasn't quite there. A bit too slow here, a lack of good first touch there, etc!
6) Verón had a hand in both of our goals, and had a fantastic goal bound strike saved by an equally excellent save. What would have all you knockers have been saying if that had gone in and put us 3-1 up? We might have even won it 3-1! May I also point out that he made quite a few other quality defence splitting passes, all of which were foiled by either poor control from the recieving strikers or poor anticipation by those said strikers of such a brilliant pass. Again however, in the ey's of some, it was Verón's fault <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
7) Verón didn't make any more mistakes than Butt or Scholes, both of whom gave the ball away needlessly in dangerous positions, so why are they not being knocked? I'll tell you why, because it's not fashionable to do so!
8) I can understand people thinking that he was not giving his all to the cause, but as I said, that couldn't be down to his injury still bothering him could it? Oh no, of course not
FFS, it was a below par performance by the entire team. They scored their two goals through defensive errors and not because "It was Verón's fault". <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Why don't you all stop moaning, look at the game a little more closely, and accept that we had a below par performance against a very very good Bayer Leverkusen yet still got a draw. Whinging about it wont change anything, and neither will slagging off Verón. Why don't you instead give the team support and the drive they need to carry us through? I for one have had enough of the lot of you!
I will be cheering the lads on next week with all of my heart, as I'm sure that they can pull this off and take us to the final. And I hope Verón plays next week too, and pulls off a Deportivo style performace to shut you knockers well and truely up! CMON UNITED, UNITED, UNITED........ <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
fecking fickle lot!
Support from the none Verón knockers here please! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
What the hell is the point of all this whinging and moaning eh? Ok, we had a below par game, but to start calling the players (especially Verón) shite and not worthy, is way over the top. Let's face it, we simply had a below par game (it happens people), but it wasn't as bad as some people are making out, and a draw at home isn't exactly the end of the world is it? All we have to do now is go and get a result away - we did it against Deportivo, we just did it against Chelsea, so what is the difference against Bayer Leverkusen? Ok, it's a cup match and they will go through with a draw, but I don't think that they are a team who will go looking for a draw. Let's face it, we are good enough to win, and if we cant win then we dont deserve the European Cup!
Some people are also forgetting that we were without Keane, Beckham, G Neville (Bayer hardly crossed the halfway line when he was playing, our defense was well on top of them), Johnsen, and Fortune! And a Verón that wasn't 100% match fit! Good god, what other team can you think of that could even cope with their squad in such a state?
And now onto the Verón knockers (usually Beckham lovers) and their predictable return to the forum after our poor result.
Just a few points:
1) Who would you have played instead of Verón last night? And don't say Keane, because even playing him at the end was a huge risk, and even for next week it is highly dangerous to play him in light of his yellow card situation. Would anyone really want to put him through the experience of missing another final if we get there? Would anyone want to risk his hamstring too early so that he might possibly miss the World Cup? Is anyone that selfish?
2) Why have these knockers so easily forgot the performance Verón put in against Deportivo? If it hadn't been for Verón we might not even be in this semi-final.
3) Veron is a mainly a central midfield player, and should be played in that position just like he was against Deportivo. Playing on the right hand side doesn't exploit his talent anywhere near enough, in fact it seriously wastes it. He constantly has to keep coming into midfield looking for the ball which at times leaves too much space on the right for the opposition. This is also the case with Beckham, except for the fact the Beckham believes that he is a central midfield player when he is not. Verón on the other hand is a central midfield player.
4) Why do people excpect a 100% performance from a player that isn't 100% match fit? His injury is probably still bothering him as well which would hinder his physical performance.
5) Some people in having a go at Verón sound like it was his fault that Bayer Leverkusen scored two goals. WTF? That couldn't be put down to the fact that we made several defensive blunders could it? But nobody is knocking them.
If we wanted to win why didn't we score more ourselves? Oh, I know why, because we didn't exactly look too hot in front of goal did we? For some reason RVN's touch eluded him last night and Solskjaer went AWOL for 75 minutes, but who's knocking them? Again, nobody! Believe it or not people, sometimes things don't click and players are not quite on form. That was the problem with our attack last night, it just wasn't quite there. A bit too slow here, a lack of good first touch there, etc!
6) Verón had a hand in both of our goals, and had a fantastic goal bound strike saved by an equally excellent save. What would have all you knockers have been saying if that had gone in and put us 3-1 up? We might have even won it 3-1! May I also point out that he made quite a few other quality defence splitting passes, all of which were foiled by either poor control from the recieving strikers or poor anticipation by those said strikers of such a brilliant pass. Again however, in the ey's of some, it was Verón's fault <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
7) Verón didn't make any more mistakes than Butt or Scholes, both of whom gave the ball away needlessly in dangerous positions, so why are they not being knocked? I'll tell you why, because it's not fashionable to do so!
8) I can understand people thinking that he was not giving his all to the cause, but as I said, that couldn't be down to his injury still bothering him could it? Oh no, of course not
FFS, it was a below par performance by the entire team. They scored their two goals through defensive errors and not because "It was Verón's fault". <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Why don't you all stop moaning, look at the game a little more closely, and accept that we had a below par performance against a very very good Bayer Leverkusen yet still got a draw. Whinging about it wont change anything, and neither will slagging off Verón. Why don't you instead give the team support and the drive they need to carry us through? I for one have had enough of the lot of you!
I will be cheering the lads on next week with all of my heart, as I'm sure that they can pull this off and take us to the final. And I hope Verón plays next week too, and pulls off a Deportivo style performace to shut you knockers well and truely up! CMON UNITED, UNITED, UNITED........ <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
fecking fickle lot!
Support from the none Verón knockers here please! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />