Sorry, I will, I posted that last one in stages, I didn't see this post until now.
Fergie selling macheda?
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Sorry, I will, I posted that last one in stages, I didn't see this post until now.
I wouldn't be too fuss if Fergie decides to let him go in the interests of the club and the lad's future after seeing Hernandez coming on leaps and bounds and Welbeck coming back
If we do indeed let him go..
Another Rossi, Pique?
Another Rossi, Pique?
They left for first team opportunities.
Right now it's only speculation but certainly Macheda won't be leaving for that reason.
I've said a while ago that people who said he'd come back into the team may have been overly optimistic. He won't displace Rooney or Hernandez and if Berbatov goes I can see us looking elsewhere for a third choice striker. If Fergie has said Wellbeck is ahead of him, what is he returning to?
Fifth choice?
Had he had a storming loan spell, perhaps things would be different but like 99% of all our youngsters these days, i really do think it could just be a case of waiting for the right price for him.
Fifth choice?
Had he had a storming loan spell, perhaps things would be different but like 99% of all our youngsters these days, i really do think it could just be a case of waiting for the right price for him.
It wasn't 'wrong' to let those players go. Their careers benefited from the fact that we did but we've hardly been short of a top defender or top striker over recent years.
I don't see how letting someone go who becomes a very good player, means it was wrong to let them go in the first place. Who knows what career Pique would have had if we kept him at the club, barely getting a game because of our 'better' options at the time. He may well not have developed into the player he did when he got away and got first team football.
What "quotes" are you referring to exactly? All he said was how Macheda had said he was unhappy. You had no idea of context or anything yet presumed he was "mouthing off" and then made a further assumption that if your initial assumption was correct that he had a bad attiotude and this was the reason for Fergie "possibly" wanting to get rid.
It's like you created an entire story on your own based purely on the fact someone said Macheda had said he was unhappy.
I've since provided you with the actual quotes. Nothing to see. Move along.
We won't let him go. He's still only 19 isn't he? Hopefully now he's got returning back to Italy out of his system. Hopefully we can loan him out to a Championship side next season so he can get some games under his belt.
I've since said to let it go. Do it.
In fairness, he was entitled to respond to my post "let it go" comments.
If you look back over the years at our 'back-up' strikers, they've usually been quite experienced haven't they?
Going back to when Cantona joined and the preference was him with Hughes we had McClair. Later on you look at the experience of Ole and Sherringham. Later when either Cole or Yorke fell out of favour they'd be on call. Cole when RvN came in. Then when we had the likes of Tevez and Saha, now Owen and Berbatov...
I just think it'd be unusual for us to have back-up strikers with relatively little experience or pedigree. Yes Macheda is a very good talent and he's shown great promise but I don't think he is 'established' enough to be a relied upon back-up for our strikers.
Going back to when Cantona joined and the preference was him with Hughes we had McClair. Later on you look at the experience of Ole and Sherringham. Later when either Cole or Yorke fell out of favour they'd be on call. Cole when RvN came in. Then when we had the likes of Tevez and Saha, now Owen and Berbatov...
I just think it'd be unusual for us to have back-up strikers with relatively little experience or pedigree. Yes Macheda is a very good talent and he's shown great promise but I don't think he is 'established' enough to be a relied upon back-up for our strikers.
NOTW:
Federico set for United exit
Heading for the exit door... Macheda could be shipped out of Old Trafford
By Aidan Magee
May 8, 2011
FEDERICO MACHEDA could be heading for the Manchester United exit door this summer.
The Italian striker has spent this season on loan at Serie A side Sampdoria, who are now keen to make his stay permanent.
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is a fan of the youngster but Danny Welbeck will be closer to the first team than Macheda when he returns from his loan stint at Sunderland.
Fergie will refuse any end-of-season attempts by the Black Cats to seal a £10million deal for Welbeck but is looking to free up some space in his squad for new recruits.
Macheda, 19, struggled to progress at Old Trafford after scoring a crucial winner on his debut against Aston Villa two seasons ago.
He was quickly rewarded with a new deal worth about £35,000 a week but some United insiders felt his rapid elevation affected his displays.
It is understood Macheda would be open to a stay in his homeland and will hold talks with Fergie once the current campaign is over.
United would demand about £7m for a player they plucked from under the noses of Serie A club Lazio.
Fergie is also planning to loan out £7m summer signing Bebe.
United staff believe they can make a success of the Portuguese striker, 20, and want him to stay in the Premier League.
The club are believed to want a similar arrangement for winger Gabriel Obertan, 22.
Federico set for United exit
Heading for the exit door... Macheda could be shipped out of Old Trafford
By Aidan Magee
May 8, 2011
FEDERICO MACHEDA could be heading for the Manchester United exit door this summer.
The Italian striker has spent this season on loan at Serie A side Sampdoria, who are now keen to make his stay permanent.
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is a fan of the youngster but Danny Welbeck will be closer to the first team than Macheda when he returns from his loan stint at Sunderland.
Fergie will refuse any end-of-season attempts by the Black Cats to seal a £10million deal for Welbeck but is looking to free up some space in his squad for new recruits.
Macheda, 19, struggled to progress at Old Trafford after scoring a crucial winner on his debut against Aston Villa two seasons ago.
He was quickly rewarded with a new deal worth about £35,000 a week but some United insiders felt his rapid elevation affected his displays.
It is understood Macheda would be open to a stay in his homeland and will hold talks with Fergie once the current campaign is over.
United would demand about £7m for a player they plucked from under the noses of Serie A club Lazio.
Fergie is also planning to loan out £7m summer signing Bebe.
United staff believe they can make a success of the Portuguese striker, 20, and want him to stay in the Premier League.
The club are believed to want a similar arrangement for winger Gabriel Obertan, 22.
I don't care really, I never rated Macheda.
I have but a friend of mine has said before that his goal vs Villa was perhaps the worse thing that could happen to him. Announced him on the stage but did it cloud our own judgement and his own, as to how good he actually is.
Not my opinion but I can see where he's coming from on that. Perhaps it would have been better had he not been 'announced' so emphatically and given himself something to live up to when he was just 17 years old.
The club is not United, so no. He's not playing, the club is shit, he wants to come back to United.
Anyone else see a quote in that?
Could be onto something there.
What happened to that Spurs kid who scored that wonder-volley last season?
Just a downside of having so many talented young players at a club - there often isn't room for all of them.
Not that I believe these rumours, mind.
Not that I believe these rumours, mind.
Well to be honest Kiko started briliantly for us and I was one of the fans who expected for him to be our own Di Canio.... But... I guess his personality is not United material cos he just tought that he is already a star so no need to do extra work... In a word... His talent did not reach the potential that we are used to watching at United.... So.. I expect that Kiko will not came back to United... After all Rossi was for me the best italian that we had but never truly give him chance to explode... He is now the best player Villareal have
Danny Rose
He played at the weekend, but if I heard right it was his first appearance since the goal against Arsenal, which was his debut.
Rose had been on loan iirc
I wouldn't be devastated if it was true.There are too many better strikers than Macheda at the club currently
I am not surprised.
there is no way Macheda is on 35k a week
Didn't Fergie recently say he was definitely coming back? Right after Macheda said he hadn't really enjoyed Italian football?
Whether SAF sells him this summer or not, I've always thought his initial impact gave an impression of greater potential than he's truly got. Don't get me wrong, he'll be a decent striker somewhere, I just don't think he'll develop into the world star many hoped and still anticipate. I said it in the Welbeck thread in 2009...Danny rather than Kiko will go on to make a long-term impact at OT, everything I've seen from both this season suggests that's the way it'll pan out.
Yep, all of 19 years old. Time to write him off!
I call bullshit, it's not Fergies style to announce the sale of a player before it goes through.
Wouldn't be surprised.
We have a lot of young strikers but I think at some point we'll have to let a couple of them go.
We have a lot of young strikers but I think at some point we'll have to let a couple of them go.
It's time for this great quote from Fergie:
"We had a player that once said to me Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t good enough. Can you believe that? He actually said they weren’t good enough and he wasn’t prepared to wait until they were. That’s what happens, that’s the problem with potential – people don’t identify potential, they’re very poor at it. I’ve identified it all my life within young people – I know potential, I know how it can be developed and I know how to have faith in it - young people surprise you when you give them an opportunity. And that’s what this club is about."
"We had a player that once said to me Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t good enough. Can you believe that? He actually said they weren’t good enough and he wasn’t prepared to wait until they were. That’s what happens, that’s the problem with potential – people don’t identify potential, they’re very poor at it. I’ve identified it all my life within young people – I know potential, I know how it can be developed and I know how to have faith in it - young people surprise you when you give them an opportunity. And that’s what this club is about."
I don't see this happening, I've always got the impression that Fergie has a belief in Macheda. He'll come back in a couple of weeks, be assessed in pre-season and most likely loaned out to a Prem club.
Not sure Samp are as keen as the Sunday red tops make out. Not at £7 million anyway. From the bits I have seen he seems to have struggled to make an impact over there. Fergie has said he will come back to OT but he has said that about Diouf at Blackburn and all the other loanees.
Good old tabloid bullshit. Write 1000 baseless articles, some which may even be possible/likely, and then claim a scoop when their scattergun approach eventually gets on right. Anyone who believes anything, up to and including the date on the front, of the NOTW is an idiot.
Can only be Ruud or Heinze.
Clearly van Nistelrooy.
Exactly.
People are fecking idiots.
The lad still has age on his side and he has always done well in the youth teams which proves he has talent and potential.
What do people expect? At 19 years of age go to Serie A and score goals for fun? Even Rossi who was so good failed at Newcastle. Welbeck wasn't a big hit in the lower division was he now?
He is the kind of striker who will require 2-3 years more imo to develop fully because of his style of play. Experience will be the key to his development.
And it would be stupid to let him go at this early age. The only reason he might go if he wants to.Keeping him for a couple of years on our records will certainly do us no harm in order to find out if he reaches the potential or not.