Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson, has declared to News of the World: "We are working in order to covert the loan of Macheda to Sampdoria in a definitively transfer".
Fergie selling macheda?
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That's strange English wording.Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson, has declared to News of the World: "We are working in order to covert the loan of Macheda to Sampdoria in a definitively transfer".
Do you have a link to this?
this wouldn't surprise me at all.
never rated Kiko as much others did.
but frankly i think its a bs story.
never rated Kiko as much others did.
but frankly i think its a bs story.
It's in Italian press, hence the weird wording.
Macheda said a few weeks/months ago that he wasnt happy, considering Sampdoria have become shit since Cassano left, doubt he would want to stay there permanently.
It wouldn't be a massive shock. It would be a shame, he's scored some important goals for us but we have gifted forwards coming through. We also now have Hernandez and the form of Wellbeck...It could be bullshit but it wouldn't exactly be a shock
Would Ferguson really say that? And hasn't he been a fan of Macheda in the past?
Considering Macheda's age I cannot see him selling him at all. He's got potential to be a good player for us in the future and until/if he busts with us he'll be officially on the club books.
Considering Macheda's age I cannot see him selling him at all. He's got potential to be a good player for us in the future and until/if he busts with us he'll be officially on the club books.
Possibly the reason why we're considering making it a permanent transfer?
Mouthing off about how unhappy you are is hardly the way to impress Fergie.
I'd be very surprised if its true
Fergie wouldnt talk to the pres about wanting to sell a player. Whats the point
And Kiko has said he wants to return to England. Why would he agree to a move to Samp
Fergie wouldnt talk to the pres about wanting to sell a player. Whats the point
And Kiko has said he wants to return to England. Why would he agree to a move to Samp
Thanks.
Does Fergie really give one liner interviews to the NOTW.
You've seen his press conferences. The questions last longer than the answer, which as usually "I don't know about that." or "I've nothing to say" or "I'm not getting into that"
No, he was saying he was unhappy at Samp. Not at United. he said he was looking forward to returning to Manchester.
Oh I know where he was saying he was unhappy. If you send someone out on loan and they moan about the experience, I cannot imagine the boss being pleased with it.
Hardly grounds to sell him though.
I don't know why he would like to be at Sampdoria next season.
They lost to Genoa yesterday, he was on the bench all the game. He's hardly played any games for two months.
And... Sampdoria are possibly in Serie B next season.
They lost to Genoa yesterday, he was on the bench all the game. He's hardly played any games for two months.
And... Sampdoria are possibly in Serie B next season.
The article in the paper on Sunday had no quotes what so ever. I stated it is believed Fergie rate Macheda, but feels that Welbeck would be closer to the 1st team.
It also claimed loan deals are being sought for both Bebe and Obertan in the Premiership for next season.
It also claimed loan deals are being sought for both Bebe and Obertan in the Premiership for next season.
Up to now there is no reliable source confirming Fergie wants to make this move permanent. Even if he did it'd be most unlikely that he'd give an exclusive on it to the NOTW.
You can see that can't you.
Why not?
Just speculation but if he has a poor attitude, why would Ferguson want him?
Of course this could all be wrong and he could be a credit to the dressing room but hypothetically, a poor attitude is hardly a 'bad' reason to get rid of someone.
There's hardly any 'reliable' source for 99% of the things we discuss about here. It's a football forum on the internet where we respond to stories in the media. That's all I'm doing.
By the way, my comment wasn't anything to do with the NOTW story but the suggestion made by someone else that he has complained about the club he's gone to on loan.
Whether the story about us wanting to sell him is true or not is irrelevant to the point I'm making.
So he has a poor attitude for expressing his disapointment at how the loan has gone? How do you get there?
If a United player gave an interview as to how unhappy he was at the club and how disappointed he was at being at the club, would you not see that as having a poor attitude?
Anderson wasn't happy and was thinking about leaving in Fergie's own words, did him no harm. The key with Fergie is how you respond to it, so if Macheda comes back and works hard to improve, Fergie will be happy with that. Can't see him being sold.
Do you actually know what Macheda said? I'm suspecting you don't. So you're suggesting he has a poor attitude based on a comment that you don't know anything about?
Interesting.....
No I'm suggesting he'd have a poor attitude if what the other poster said was true, happened.
My comment was based on someone else saying that he'd been speaking to the media about how unhappy he was at Sampdoria. It isn't unreasonable to conclude that if that's true, that it could mean he has a poor attitude.
Not quite true Aaron. I responded to your statement below.
There is no evidence to suggest that Fergie is looking to make it permanent.
By all means respond to made up stories but don't state their content as if it's fact.
Its been a shite loan deal for all concerned though. Im sure he'd understand Kiko's frustrations. On a par with Rossi's move to Newcastle.
Reading the NOTW yesterday, it said Sampdoria are keen to turn the loan in to a permanent move.
I don't recall Fergie saying anything on the matter, it just alluded to Welbeck being above Macheda in the pecking order.
I don't recall Fergie saying anything on the matter, it just alluded to Welbeck being above Macheda in the pecking order.
I didn't respond to them as they were fact. I used the word 'possibly'.
Let's not get petty on semantics here, where in a second someone will say 'In your opinion' as if we're also required to put 'in my opinion' at the end of each post to clarify that what we say is our opinion.
It's amazing how defensive some people get over these things.
Unless, from now on, the rules are we only comment on what we know to be factually true and don't comment or speculate on anything?
By "other poster" I presume you mean Ginger Prince who said:
You then turned that into:
Talk about sensationalisation.
To clear it up for you, this is what Macheda said at the start of April which is what Ginger Prince and myself were referring to:
This would surprise me, as from all accounts he has been pretty shit for them.
I wouldn't be surprised if we did sell him. Or overly bothered, if I am brutally honest.
fecking hell, stop it.
How is "Other poster" somehow turned into a slight against someone now?
How seriously do you take life? Jesus Christ.
Look, I'm not a journalist, if someone says that Macheda has spoken about how unhappy he is at his loaned club, I'll take the summery of his quotes as given, at face value.
How seriously do you take life? Jesus Christ.
Look, I'm not a journalist, if someone says that Macheda has spoken about how unhappy he is at his loaned club, I'll take the summery of his quotes as given, at face value.
seriously, let it go.
It's a real life, in the FM i could play him 8-10 times in a cup (where i comfortably won 8 out of 10 with full reserves), getting ahead so far in the table i can afford to give him gametime every second week, give him a run the group games of CL, but in the real life it doesn't work that way
And we're overstocked in the striking department. In the FM we can sell everyone we deemed as surplus without having to take into considerations for emotions, profits, loss, etc, but in the real world, it just doesn't work out that way.
So yeah, SAF has sold Pique, Rossi, and Macheda as much as we would love to see him with us are not better than the previous.
And we're overstocked in the striking department. In the FM we can sell everyone we deemed as surplus without having to take into considerations for emotions, profits, loss, etc, but in the real world, it just doesn't work out that way.
So yeah, SAF has sold Pique, Rossi, and Macheda as much as we would love to see him with us are not better than the previous.
I will be very disappointed if we sell him. Loan him out for another season, what's the harm?
It sounds good in theory but often it doesn't work out. You want to loan players to clubs where they'll play regularly.
Even so, if Obertan, as an example, said that he was unhappy, that things haven't gone as well for him as he'd hoped and that he prefers the tactics and style of French football, would saying that he was 'mouthing off' about how much he dislikes it in England be an unreasonable point to make?