Fur me he would be a great signing.
Fellaini
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I know it's stupidly short sighted, but I can't help but want him more just because we're playing Chelsea in a weeks time.
I am warming to the idea of him. Mainly because we need at least something.
I hope we get him by Friday. Would be abit of a lift going into the Chelsea game among the crowd at OT i reckon
I've often thought plenty of times I'd like to see him play for us, even though he's never been in favour on here for us much. Saying that, I have no clue why our valuation is so low. Pulling a fast one and Everton aren't biting. Is now the time really to be gambling with our midfield transfers?
He would be a real solid signing and would be better than a lot are giving him credit for. He has a lot of the attributes we are missing in the team gives us a solid base a long side Carrick allowing our attacking players to play from a more secure position. Plus with him in the team Carrick will be able to get further forward also. Sign him up!
Worst thing is, the more we feck around and it gets closer to the end of window, the more he'l cost.
Baines' cross to Fellainiiiiiii !
And that rounds off a glorious 6-0 victeory for man utd at the camp nou!
If any of the top 5 teams besides City signed him he would improve them massively. So i don't get why this is a bad signing for us.
I don't think this transfer is as cut and dried as people are making out. We shouldn't brush the derisory nature of our opening bid under the carpet. It'd be nice to see a permanent solution to our midfield problem, especially as we can no longer rely on Fergie's hairdryer. United fans everywhere will wig out if don't buy at least one CM but at this rate we'll be cutting it fine by waiting so late in the transfer window. The root of our problem this summer has been inexperience in tying up the various strands of any given deal. There's been a few close shaves (Thiago) but ultimately we've fallen a hair's breadth short. I'll escort myself out.
Well if that was the case then why did none of them bid for him despite everyone knowing he had a release clause? I'm not saying he wouldn't be an improvement, he clearly would be, but I think it would be a limited improvement and personally would rather wait and try to keep pushing for a better player whilst looking for a younger/unknown who could step up, and sign a younger player now to be understudy to Carrick as cover. Will happily take Fellaini over no one but ultimately long term I don't think he's the answer.
And that rounds of a glorious 6-o victory for man utd at the camp nou!
He didn't even had to jump !
He might be an improvement but not a massive one. Anyway, there are other players who could equally improve these teams without costing as much as we'll probably have to pay. We're signing Fellaini because Moyes is our manager and he already knows him, if we had another manager then we probably wouldn't be going for him, in the same way the other top clubs aren't going for him.
Me too. If Moyes feels we desperately need another midfielder who can do a more defensive job then I'm willing to take him, but I'd personally rather see us wait till next summer and then splash out on a much better central midfielder who is properly top class and can control games with ease for us in the middle, both domestically and in Europe. Fellaini is a very good player, but for £20m+? I'm not so sure he's worth it.
Thats all I said. What improvement that is doesn't concern me. This younger option.. I really don't get what the point of this is we love to push it out there like our Midfield is fine McCarthy does not improve us he would need a good 2 years until he gets up to our level.. if he does then we can get him then. Fellaini as most including myself have assumed is one of arguable two centre midfielders that we are looking for.
Who? and i'm talking instant impact not squad depth.
Like we were suppose to do this summer because last summer there was no one available... so why next summer.
Because it appears that we've missed out on any potential top class targets this summer: Thiago went to Bayern, and Fabregas isn't leaving Barca. I reckon it's going to be too late to pursue another world class midfielder because clubs will be very reluctant to sell with the window nearing it's close.
Well personally I'd prefer a proper long term solution rather than an expensive stop gap especially if that potentially impairs our ability to get a better player in the future. I personally think we can win the title without getting in a top player in the middle, city have a better midfield but Chelsea don't. What I don't think we can do is win the title if carrick is out for a spell, so I would bring in a younger understudy for him and if we can't identify anyone to be a creative player this summer put it off until next and let clev/ando have another shot.
Why do people think Fellani would be a stop gap signing? He's 25 ffs
He's 25 ffsChelsea would over power us in the middle and Fellaini is 25 how is that a stop gap? He will only improve and if he doesn't so be it.. If Carrick gets injured then Clev/Ando step in alongside Fellaini. Carrick understudy does not improve the loss of Carrick.
These questions are always hard as it's difficult to know how much a player would go for. Still, I don't see much difference in quality between Fellaini and someone like Dembele, who went for well under 20m. Then you have players like Kondogbia, apparently drawing the interest of Real, Chelsea, Arsenal and Juventus yet still going to cost less than Fellaini. Someone like Marchisio would probably go for around 20m too. Cabaye would improve us, yet nobody will pay over 20m for him either. To be honest our midfield is so weak that a lot of players would probably strengthen it straight away. Fact is, Fellaini should not be worth 20m+, yet we're going to pay it. That's because of the Moyes connection, not Fellaini's outstanding ability.
Could have said exactly the same about Van Persie last season, the difference being that Van Persie is a better striker than Fellaini is a midfielder but we arguably need a new midfielder this season more than we needed a new striker last season.
If we end up paying more than the release clause then Woodward deserves to be sacked.
I don't get why we were waiting for the Fabregas situation to develop. They both different players.
I don't get why we were waiting for the Fabregas situation to develop. They both different players.
One thing this bid has done, is really piss Everton off, the next bid needs to be something really good to get them to even look at it.
I think it is going to have to be in the region of £30-35million and to expect to pay about £38m.
Over-priced, hell yes, but that's the market, wee need to pay it.
I think it is going to have to be in the region of £30-35million and to expect to pay about £38m.
Over-priced, hell yes, but that's the market, wee need to pay it.
Is anyone else of the opinion that Fabio isn't truly in consideration to be a long-term left back for us because of the type of player that Moyes tends to use as a left sided attacker? He may see him as more of a right back in his system that can occasionally do a job on the left.
Where will that leave Rafael then?
We have top quality strikers though, so there are very few we could have signed that would have been a "massive" improvement. Our midfield is not that blessed, there are quite a lot of cms who would improve our squad massively. Yet we're choosing to over pay for Fellaini because our manager knows him. I don't particularly have a huge problem with that and I'm sure Fellaini would be a worthwhile addition, I just don't think there's a need to pretend we're signing him because he's the stand out candidate for the job.
How would Chelsea over power us. Lamps, Ramires and Oscar v Carrick, Clev/Ando, Kagawa/Rooney, looks even at the very least to me. I meant he's a stop gap in that whilst he's better than Clev/Ando currently I don't think he's an ideal first choice united midfielder either, we'd still need a creative player if we want to actually improve for the CL. Of course with any understudy it's never ideal to lose the main man but he'd be more insurance than anything and if you get the right player no reason he can't do a job.
Fellaini is a great player. Not a Fabregas, of course, but would improve us a lot. Tall, strong, great tackler, and has a lot of ability on the feet. Would help us keep control onf the game. Him and Ozil please.
As the player ahead of Fabio on the right when he's fit.
I think Fellani is a decent player and will help out in the area we are weakest but what I don't understand is how Moyes comes out and says Utd always will be after top world class players but then goes out and buys two Everton players who have little to no champions league experience. Too me this just furthers my view the Glazers won't go the extra mile needed to bring the best players here and imo have let Moyes down this summer. All these bids are bullshit bit low say we tried and continue with the relative frugal spending.
For those who think he's just a big lump who's great in the air, but useless on the ground...have a little watch of this video...He's not one of Everton's best players just because he wins a few headers and scores a few goals. The lad's clearly got ability, and he's only 25. People need to start giving him some more credit.
He's better on the ball than given credit for. He's worse defensively than given credit for
Maybe, but if Moyes see's that as his future there, then who are we to argue?...Don't forget he's only 25, with scope for improvement. Infact, he's the same age as Carrick was when we signed him, and look how much he's improved, in all aspects of his game.
What do you mean.. You just said if Carrick gets injured we need an understudy to cover him, yes that would be a step down considering he is an 'understudy' however he still wouldn't be better than Fellaini so we still look weak. A creative player is not going to protect Carrick or the defense and I would rather have a 'proven' creative player which I believe/hope we are looking for.
Good player when he wants to be. Always raises his game against us. Not entirely convinced he would improve us but one thing he would do is add depth and allow more resting time for Carrick when need be. Can he play a deep role in midfield though? I'm not so sure. More of an attacking threat I would have thought.
Wouldn't be very please if we paid over £20m.
Wouldn't be very please if we paid over £20m.
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