No one really knows if he wants to go or not. What we do know that there had been plenty of rumors saying that he wanted to go back to France.
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No one really knows if he wants to go or not. What we do know that there had been plenty of rumors saying that he wanted to go back to France.
We tried to get the "very best" so now we move to the players Moyes really wanted.
Tbh i really think Fellaini is a player that would do a good job, he offers a lot as a DM and could be a nuisance in our attacks, with regards to Baines, for me that would be a waste of money for a 29 yr old when we clearly have Evra and Fabio.
Tbh i really think Fellaini is a player that would do a good job, he offers a lot as a DM and could be a nuisance in our attacks, with regards to Baines, for me that would be a waste of money for a 29 yr old when we clearly have Evra and Fabio.
If he leaves, then going in for Baines is not a problem. But it doesnt make much sense to buy Baines when we have Evra as 1st choice.
You lot want United to pay £25m+ for Fellaini?
Is that because you rate Fellaini as a £25m player, or because you are just desperate for United to sign a midfielder?
Is that because you rate Fellaini as a £25m player, or because you are just desperate for United to sign a midfielder?
I'm fairly certain it's the latter. Even I'm not as staunchly against him as I used to be because I'm scared by our threadbare midfield and that it seems unlikely that we'll sign anyone else for the position.
Surely it is better to go with what we have instead of massively over-pay for a player that won't necessarily improve our 1st XI.
What about kongdobia? Worth a punt?
If Moyes really wanted to sign Fellaini then he'd have signed for 23m which was his clause.
FFS atleast make some sense with the moan.
Not really. He's better than Cleverley and has defensive skills to cover for Carrick and shield the defence when necessary, as things stand we can't go into the season with only 4 midfielders, one of them being 40 and two being injury prone, not to mention the remaining one is 32 and coming off an exhausting season when he played virtually every game.
At this point it is imperative we add a body in midfield, as it is really threadbare. Its sad that is has come to this when this window looked so promising when it started.
With all that in mind, getting fellaini for ~23million wouldn't be so bad. There's no doubt he'd improve us, but not a player of the level we (most people on here) wanted.
With all that in mind, getting fellaini for ~23million wouldn't be so bad. There's no doubt he'd improve us, but not a player of the level we (most people on here) wanted.
I would rather our scouts got their collective fingers out and we took a punt on someone that costs half of Fellaini but could end up being a better acquisition... however, as that seemingly borders on a Football Manager-esq sort of solution, Fellaini will do, and will at least bring something different to our side.
Don't want Baines though - totally pointless acquisition.
Don't want Baines though - totally pointless acquisition.
Well considering Cole is still ahead for England I doubt that. I think Baines is good going forward but I wouldn't say he's a different class to Evra and even if I gave Baines the edge there wouldn't be much in it. Either way £15m for a fullback near 30 with no CL experience is over the top. If it was a case of Evra wanting to go, he'd be a good replacement although still over priced but I don't see if Evra did want to go why we need him, much rather would give Fabio a season or two to catch up with his brother and look for another younger fullback in case.
Yeah Fellaini is odd, as I said don't see why they would sell for less than his release clause was set at.
Well as I said above I don't think there's much in it now and I've seen nothing to suggest Evra has lost stamina and if anything his attacking play is getting better.
Not ideal, far from it.
But IMO Fellaini just offers 1) something different and 2) quantity. Different, not better than what we have.
Hopefully, United stick to a max valuation of him, and pull out of negotiations if Everton insists on more than that.
This offer was made four days ago by the sound of it. Why did Everton leaked it now?
The £23m clause is kinda irrelevant, i can't see us paying much more than that amount for him in any contract situation.
Yeah that's how I feel, Fellaini is a decent option and I'd take him over no one but he's overpriced and I just can't believe that our scouts haven't been able to identify anyone from a lower league over all these years we should have been looking. I'd rather take De Rossi if they want to sell him, he'd be at his peak for a good few more years and while we've got him we could keep searching for the long term solution.
Agree on Baines.
Yeah, just because the clause is that level it does not mean its a minimum price that must be paid for the player. If Fellaini hands in a transfer request tomorrow they United would get him for less.
I agree. I mean, it's easier said then done I'm sure, but where is our midfield version of Evra, or Vidic, or Hernandez, or Rafael, or Smalling, or Jones, etc. etc...
Fellaini is a good player, and he probably would improve the team, but I have several concerns over him. He is very potent an attacking threat, no question there - but we don't really need that. We have class strikers. He would add to our threat in the air, but we are already decent in that respect with Vidic, Welbeck, Van Persie all handy. My concerns over him is that he is only effective defensively because he is so huge and hard to get past. Aside from that I think his positional discipline is not the best and I don't like the way he commits to challenges and if they don't succeed, lets players past him. I think this is partly because he is so used to managing to win the ball back from just being a big bastard that he hasn't learned to actually track players. Maybe that would be ok next to Carrick, but I'm not so sure.
I think we are only interested in Baines because quality left backs are so few and far between. I think we would be happy to take him for less next season.
I think we are only interested in Baines because quality left backs are so few and far between. I think we would be happy to take him for less next season.
I imagine Everton are getting nervous as it very much looks like United are going to leave it until the end of the window to take their two best players, leaving them no time to replace them.
This is probably Everton's attempt to speed the process along by imploring United to up the offer this week.
Yep or you look at Modric, Gundogen, Vidal etc all in recent years. Just really odd that we've not seemingly identified anyone.
Would you be content if we went into season with no new signings?
Anderson was supposed to be that player but it seems he scarred Fergie for life. Moyes... well I don't know, the scouts left him no reports or something.
Everton fans seem to think that they shouldn't deal at less that £28m per player.
That's my feeling as well. I think they've already accepted that one of them will leave and has decided to leak this in order to make sure that the fans know that they tried to play hardball with us.
Could be a scenario if we get Fellaini but Everton who are quite within their rights hold out for more than his initial buy-out clause, silly things happen on deadline day. That would make the club look stupid.
I fear this will go on until 2nd of September, and it will end with us signing Fellaini for £28M.
I certainly wouldn't. If we get the usual injuries to Ando and Clevs and then add Young/Nani/Valencia to that and no sign of Fletch yet, we would be well and truly screwed. This matter needed dealing with ages ago and is coming to a head now that Carrick is getting older. I just dread Michael getting a serious injury. Sir Alex seemed obsessed with wingers, when maybe we should have been stock piling CMs. We would rather buy the jack of all trades, master of none untility player.
I'm not really sure we're looking for a replacement. Looking at the matches against Wigan and Swansea, there seems to be even more emphasis on Evra attacking as we're not playing with someone regularly as a left winger. It's possible that Moyes sees that position and attacking from that position as so vital, and also taking account Evra's age, and the extra demands on him physically running up and down all the time, that he really feels the need for two quality, proven players.
£16m seems about right, let Sky Sports cover the rest as they'll spend all season analysing every micro-movement of his arm during aerial challenges.
This may be too simple for some to comprehend but he's younger, a better crosser, and takes a mean set piece. Having him would arguably allow RVP to remain in the box for most set pieces which makes sense due to his height. He's a better penalty taker than anyone we currently have. It's also not entirely unreasonable for Moyes to prefer a left footed left back over Fabio, especially without a left footed winger.
fecking Fellaini marauding through our midfield is going to be beyond annoying.
I now realise why I was so enthusiastic about Gustavo.
I now realise why I was so enthusiastic about Gustavo.
Martinez has McCarthy and a left back lined up - Everton just want Fellaini's release clause number and at least £12M for Baines, say £35M.
He is younger but isn't a spring chicken, to put it in perspective he will be 30 next season. I would much prefer we pursue a younger LB.
Everton fans seem to think that they shouldn't deal at less that £28m per player.
£56m FFS what they smoking
It may be too simple for some to comprehend, but many of us don't want us to replace our vice captain with a marginally better player and see it as a waste of money.
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