How can you have watched our games and still think he adds nothing? Whether you think we can get a squad player willing to sit in the bench better than him or not, he's contributed under Mou and for a bit under LvG.
Fellaini to West Ham?
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How can you have watched our games and still think he adds nothing? Whether you think we can get a squad player willing to sit in the bench better than him or not, he's contributed under Mou and for a bit under LvG.
To be honest, he's not the same type of player as he was under Moyes/LvG. His short passing, vision and movement have clearly improved, he also allows less fouls and is dangerous in the box. Like it or not but today's Fellaini is a decent squad player who shouldn't be allowed to just leave for free.
Okay, United is the biggest club in the world and can afford to let a player go without compensation, but why not give him 150K-a-week now and sell in the summer if better options become available on the market? I don't understand what kind of business it is to let him walk away in the summer while he can easily be sold for 15-20M.
Okay, United is the biggest club in the world and can afford to let a player go without compensation, but why not give him 150K-a-week now and sell in the summer if better options become available on the market? I don't understand what kind of business it is to let him walk away in the summer while he can easily be sold for 15-20M.
Because no one would pay any money for him if they are to match his salary aspirations.
Indeed, just look at a few of our sales in the latter years. Likes of Nani for nothing, Rooney for free?, Memphis etc
The high salary would scare of other teams, unless it is a team in China or similar who want a "big" name and willing to pay for it.
As mentioned above, let him leave for free in the summer and replace with some younger greater talent. I know Saul might be tricky with his 6 year contract at ATM but perhaps Soler at Val? Jorginho at Napoli in for Carrick etc.
The high salary would scare of other teams, unless it is a team in China or similar who want a "big" name and willing to pay for it.
As mentioned above, let him leave for free in the summer and replace with some younger greater talent. I know Saul might be tricky with his 6 year contract at ATM but perhaps Soler at Val? Jorginho at Napoli in for Carrick etc.
Here you go.
That picture alone was worth signing him for.
Big Fella, citeh players cower at his mere gaze...
It’s not a messed up way to run a team when he is a good player and the manager wants him to stay anyway. How is it a good way to run a business to spend 30 million on a replacement when what you have already is what you need? I am not talking about what people THINK we need. I am talking about the manager.
Right, if he really wants to leave then what can you do. Some people just want rid completely though.
I highlighted the highly subjective comments from your post.
Apart from Mourinho saying at a press conference that he wants Fellani to stay, there is no evidence he actually wants him to stay. Fellani probably won't be offered a contract with a salary or playing time he's happy with suggests that Mourinho isn't arsed. If Mourinho told Ed Woodward to offer Fellani whatever he wants, he's in my plans, he'll play every week, then Ed would do exactly that. The fact that Fellani and his agent are flirting with other clubs and no one at United has even acknowledged it suggests no one cares all that much.
And in regards to spending £30m. If that £30m is spent on improving the squad then it's money well spent. Fellani isn't going to get better, sell shirts or be sold on for a profit. He's a big hole we're dumping salary budget into, when we could be spending it elsewhere.
It's hardly worth the comments on this forum . Its fellaini for gods sake a very limited footballer nowhere near good enough to be a regular starter at United .
Let him go he's not worth the effort in my view he is a journeyman footballer .
So thanks for you efforts and good luck in the future , but you were the weakest link ...goodbye ( not good buy ! )
Let him go he's not worth the effort in my view he is a journeyman footballer .
So thanks for you efforts and good luck in the future , but you were the weakest link ...goodbye ( not good buy ! )
Three words. Kettle and Pot and Black.
I hear you but would we have allowed Pogba, De Gea, Rashford, Lingard or Martial's contract to run down the last 6 months and not be going or have gone all out to get a contract signed at some point in the last year?
Remember the whole De Gea episode? I think Fellaini is valued, I don’t think Jose is lying when he says so. What would his motivation be to do so?
So Mourinho says he wants him to stay, reiterates this, says he is important AND we offer him a contract, and somehow you twist that into Mourinho not really wanting him. Bravo
.Spending £30 million to replace someone the manager deems suitable is not a favourable position to be in when we do not have unlimited funds. A top player will cost us 70-100 million this summer, and if our budget is around 150 million like it has been the last two summers, we are going to struggle to fill in our other positions of need.
Say we sign a Fellaini relacement for 30 million. Sign a top player for 70 million. We now have around 50 million to deal with the fulback situation and any other situations we were already going to address. Obviously I do not know for sure what our budget looks like, but judging off Mourinho’s comments, our last two windows, and us not signing Perisic, I think its safe to infer that our budget is around 150 million.
Also prior to his injury, Fellaini was preferred to Herrera. So I’m guessing Mourinho was going to sign players to replace Herrera rather than Fellaini.
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Has anyone said he's a sing of our rot since the Fergie era yet?
An underwhelming signing but he's not been as bad as some make out
Of course. The amount of exaggeration in this thread and those posts about him being a single sign of our barren years or whatever is well ott.
The reason why he was and always would be made out as a bad signing is because we started focusing more on long ball tactics and always resorted to that tactic.
Prior to signing Fellaini, we never thought let's get a big lump and hoof the ball.
In the past, we would push our defenders forward to disrupt the defence but never would go for the long.
De Gea wanted to leave for Madrid, that's a different situation. I'm sure Jose thinks Fellani has a place in the team, I just think that the place Jose see's him and the place Fellani see's himself are miles apart. He's looking to cash in on us not wanting to go out and splash major cash on a midfielder this summer because we've got other targets in mind. You can't fault the guy for looking to get the best deal possible for himself but he's playing a dangerous game because he's just not that valuable.
I understand where you are coming from in terms that he has improved a little but please don't use vision when describing a player who rarely passes a football more than 10 yards - lets not kid ourselves.....he's an extremely limited technical footballer and we could do much better.....
to give some perspective - a player like Salah is on a newer contract and earns less than 100k - for that outlay we really can do better
and to suggest we would give someone a contract one day just with a view to selling him the next is petty and would be terrible for the clubs reputation to tell someone they are part of your plans then treat them like a piece of meat
we haven't exactly had much interest in Fellaini and if wages is his motivation he will run down his contract and he might get a bumper deal from Moyes or someone
Because if we bow down and give him astronomical wages for a aging squad option, no club in they're right mind will pay money for him AND match the wages you mention.
Losing him for free seems better than paying him 150-200k per week and being stuck with him for another 3 years when we really need to be adding QUALITY to our squad instead of dross like him.
For example, if we let fellaini go for free and say sign Goretzka - is this improving our squad? I would say so. The other option - Pay Fellaini big bucks and don't sign, say Goretzka. Are we better or worse? I would say worse.
We need more quality in midfield to match Matic/Pogba. At the moment we are light in quality there.
If Fellaini was at Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs - would any top tier club be hoping Fellaini stays? I highly highly doubt it.
Let him go, he seems to want a new challenge and we need to freshen up the midfield anyway. Works for both if he goes