Felipe Anderson

See I think in part the issue is... What kind of player do we need? And in what position?

Before Rooney scored a hat trick it was clear that we needed a striker. A week or so before we needed a winger and now we need a winger again?

I've watched YouTube videos of Anderson and he looks exciting. But so did Bebe and Nani etc. He could be a good signing (though I'm not yet convinced we are after him) but he could easily be another flop.
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
See I think in part the issue is... What kind of player do we need? And in what position?

Before Rooney scored a hat trick it was clear that we needed a striker. A week or so before we needed a winger and now we need a winger again?

I've watched YouTube videos of Anderson and he looks exciting. But so did Bebe and Nani etc. He could be a good signing (though I'm not yet convinced we are after him) but he could easily be another flop.
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You can't really compare a player with 2 good seasons in Serie A with Bebe. It's quite obvious that we need a player who can beat players and produce a bit of magic - that is the one area where Liverpool are ahead of us. Felipe Anderson is that kind of player - there are no guarantees, but we have no players like him in our squad. And that alone is perhaps reason good enough for signing him.
 
Rich_H_1989 said:
See I think in part the issue is... What kind of player do we need? And in what position?

Before Rooney scored a hat trick it was clear that we needed a striker. A week or so before we needed a winger and now we need a winger again?

I've watched YouTube videos of Anderson and he looks exciting. But so did Bebe and Nani etc. He could be a good signing (though I'm not yet convinced we are after him) but he could easily be another flop.
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The fact that South American midfielders especially Brazilians don't prefer premier league because of its physicality and fast pace can also be a factor.
As far as need for a backup striker is concerned, I still strongly believe that we do need a proper number 9, and rooney is actually a number 10 and should play in that role. Mata can play as an inverted winger, and Memphis can play as the pacey direct one. We do lack depth in terms of wingers especially with the system we are trying to employ but we need someone upfront who could hold the ball up and bring others into play. So top priority is a number 9 and if we can get a good number 11 then it would just be an icing on the cake
 
Bullshit, frankly. We don't need to splash the cash, we need to use some of the kids, give them game time. They should be the back up. I almost agree maybe we need a proper striker, I'd like Wilson to get games but I think it's true Rooneys not up to it, he hasn't got the movement to get in behind the bus when teams park it up against us. If Wilson is the answer to that? Remains to be seen at this stage, but he should be back up. Hernandez seems he can't hit a barn door from 2 yards out at the moment.
 
MoBeats said:
Bullshit, frankly. We don't need to splash the cash, we need to use some of the kids, give them game time. They should be the back up. I almost agree maybe we need a proper striker, I'd like Wilson to get games but I think it's true Rooneys not up to it, he hasn't got the movement to get in behind the bus when teams park it up against us. If Wilson is the answer to that? Remains to be seen at this stage, but he should be back up. Hernandez seems he can't hit a barn door from 2 yards out at the moment.
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We can only use the kids if they're good enough, right now Januzaj is having a go but looking a bit inconsistent and light weight to me, Wilson is clearly not showing more than Hernandez in training so is maybe ready for a loan, Blackett is off, and Pereria is competing for a position we are stacked in, McNair might some game time and we need to keep him, are any of the other kids ready to be back up?

The postion we need to sort over any other for me is the right wing, Mata whist a top player isn't quick enough for there and it's not his true postion, and who is his back up? Young was brought on in CL which speaks volumes really.

I'm not one for calling for huge spending now as we have addressed alot of our issue, but we certainly need at least one more right sided attacker in before Tuesday.
 
NoPace said:
I only watched the 2nd half. He did nothing for the first 15 of it, but I was still surprised his manager took him off considering they needed a goal to not be eliminated and down to 10, you would think a pacy goalscorer who can do it all himself on a good day would be worth leaving out there.

Any thoughts on Bellarabi? I'm not sure he's great at anything but he's a very good dribbler and presses hard (I guess the whole team does). Not quite sure he's United quality considering he's 25 and that's not so young for a winger who relies on running, but not a lot of players in a league as good as the Bundesliga hit double figures out wide last year.
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You pretty much said what I think of him. I don't think he's good enough for United. I'd bet that the same thing that happened to Schürrle would happen to him, if he moved to a better club than Leverkusen.
 
After my foresight with the Martial thread, I return here. Said a few times, obviously not claiming to be ITK or anything, but I still don't think we've heard the last of this one.

We need another attacking option, especially if Wilson leaves too. We are especially thin on the wings, Mata doesn't belong there, and other than him, we just have Memphis and Not Neymar.
 
Rozay said:
After my foresight with the Martial thread, I return here. Said a few times, obviously not claiming to be ITK or anything, but I still don't think we've heard the last of this one.

We need another attacking option, especially if Wilson leaves too. We are especially thin on the wings, Mata doesn't belong there, and other than him, we just have Memphis and Not Neymar.
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Totally agreed. Chicharito, Januzaj and now Wilson... Martial could play also on the wing but I think he's more of a response to Rooney's recent pace.

We clearly need more attacking options and this at least sounds like a realistic option.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Totally agreed. Chicharito, Januzaj and now Wilson... Martial could play also on the wing but I think he's more of a response to Rooney's recent pace.

We clearly need more attacking options and this at least sounds like a realistic option.
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Yup, with Lazio dumped out of the CL, maybe this is also a good chance to strike.
 
Yarmolenko looks like better value this window. Not sure we are in the mix though.
 
Don't see this one happening now. If it was going to happen there would have been a bit of movement yesterday. The fact that the window in Italy is closed means they couldn't use the money to replace him.
 
We were never interested!
 
Mirror as the club interested again.


Manchester United are ready to bid for £40million to land Lazio’s Felipe Anderson, according to the Mirror.

The newspaper reports that United are preparing the mega bid to fight off competition from Bundesliga giants Bayern Munich who are also interested in the 22-year-old Brazilian.

United boss Louis van Gaal was rumoured to be interested in taking the midfielder to Old Trafford in the summer, but the Serie A side demanded that the Reds pay the player’s buyout clause which is reportedly set at £57million.

It is understood that the interest of Bayern has led to United’s decision to go back into the market for the player, and while they are not willing to meet Lazio’s buyout clause there is a feeling that £40million will be enough to acquire Felipe Anderson’s services.

It will be interesting to see if United do pursue this particular signings. With the current lack of attacking emphasis in United’s play recently, a creative pacey and skillful attacking midfielder would be very welcome by the fans at Old Trafford.
 
He was great last season, and it looks like he's done well this year - 4 goals and 1 assist in 10 games (6 starts). 40m is a lot of money, though.
 
Pay it. Money is useless for us now. We need attackers in January, even if we are paying a premium.
 
To be honest, if Bayern are interested, I'm sold. When was the last time Bayern made a genuinely bad signing?
 
To me this signing is just unrealistic. If we were to sign him it would be in the region of 50m euro. He's probably the best creative attacking midfielder out there. He's also got a physical presence that is unmatched - meaning he's not scared of using his speed or challenging opponents with the risk of getting his legs chopped off.

The last couple of years we see these attacking midfielders who work hard are finding their space back in the game. The Palace game was a big hint of that when Zaha, Gayle and Bolaise totally destroyed us with their speed. Only one holding midfielder (Cabaye) and they were set to go. I can see us playing with a team like this in the near future:

DDG
Defenders
Schwein
Anderson - Mata - Herrera
Rooney - Martial

Or take away Rooney and replace him with Schneiderlin (as an extra holding midfielder)​
 
his end product is quite average but hes good at beating a defender. hes only 22 so hopefully he can improve on his weak points. wouldnt spend 40m on him though. not worth that kind of money and not really suited to a possession based system imo.
 
shivab said:
his end product is quite average but hes good at beating a defender. hes only 22 so hopefully he can improve on his weak points. wouldnt spend 40m on him though. not worth that kind of money and not really suited to a possession based system imo.
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His end product is not average. He is a very productive player, and a proper goal threat.

Been saying since summer that I don't think we've heard the last of this one. Think the interest is real, and our need is even realer right now.
 
Successful said:
To me this signing is just unrealistic. If we were to sign him it would be in the region of 50m euro. He's probably the best creative attacking midfielder out there. He's also got a physical presence that is unmatched - meaning he's not scared of using his speed or challenging opponents with the risk of getting his legs chopped off.

The last couple of years we see these attacking midfielders who work hard are finding their space back in the game. The Palace game was a big hint of that when Zaha, Gayle and Bolaise totally destroyed us with their speed. Only one holding midfielder (Cabaye) and they were set to go. I can see us playing with a team like this in the near future:

DDG
Defenders
Schwein
Anderson - Mata - Herrera
Rooney - Martial

Or take away Rooney and replace him with Schneiderlin (as an extra holding midfielder)​
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McArthur plays deep alongside Cabaye and is their main ball winner. 4231, not too dissimilar to our own formation.
 
If we are interested in anderson i assume uts because he is the attackimg version of daley blind and can play across all 4 positions upfront. Saying that; i'd prefer nabil fekir who can do just that too.

Got to say though the sudden influx of high quality french players does worry me a bit. I dont want us to be like arsenal were in the 90-2000's.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
If we are interested in anderson i assume uts because he is the attackimg version of daley blind and can play across all 4 positions upfront. Saying that; i'd prefer nabil fekir who can do just that too.

Got to say though the sudden influx of high quality french players does worry me a bit. I dont want us to be like arsenal were in the 90-2000's.
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Last season I couldn't make my mind up of who I'd prefer of Fekir and Felipe Anderson. This season and at the end of last season, Anderson's no shows against better teams and Fekir's performances convinced me that the latter is quite simply the better and more talented player. Things can change and one might develop better than the other, when one of them inevitably moves to a better club though, especially Fekir's injury might interfere with his development.

Bit of a silly concern, considering we have 2 French players and they've quite a lot of talented player nowadays.

Successful said:
To me this signing is just unrealistic. If we were to sign him it would be in the region of 50m euro. He's probably the best creative attacking midfielder out there. He's also got a physical presence that is unmatched - meaning he's not scared of using his speed or challenging opponents with the risk of getting his legs chopped off.
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Don't agree with any of that. If we want him and think he's worth it, we'll pay it. What makes you say that he's the best creative attacking midfielder? I rate him, but he's nowhere near your description IMO.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
If we are interested in anderson i assume uts because he is the attackimg version of daley blind and can play across all 4 positions upfront. Saying that; i'd prefer nabil fekir who can do just that too.

Got to say though the sudden influx of high quality french players does worry me a bit. I dont want us to be like arsenal were in the 90-2000's.
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Why does it matter that they're French :lol: bloody hell
 
LennonNL said:
Why does it matter that they're French :lol: bloody hell
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Haha sorry i didnt explain myself very well. We have people talking about pogba, griezmann, fekir all as potential targets & TBH i consider laporte to be an almost guaranteed transfer purely down to his match with van gaals philosophy better than any other LCB who's left footed. I also dont believe in him moving to barcelona; dont ask me why- i just dont see why they would have waited this long.

Just imagine how wonderful but arsenal like it would be to have griezmann,pogba, laporte, schneiderlin martial fekir im the same team =o
 
Successful said:
To me this signing is just unrealistic. If we were to sign him it would be in the region of 50m euro. He's probably the best creative attacking midfielder out there. He's also got a physical presence that is unmatched - meaning he's not scared of using his speed or challenging opponents with the risk of getting his legs chopped off.

The last couple of years we see these attacking midfielders who work hard are finding their space back in the game. The Palace game was a big hint of that when Zaha, Gayle and Bolaise totally destroyed us with their speed. Only one holding midfielder (Cabaye) and they were set to go. I can see us playing with a team like this in the near future:

DDG
Defenders
Schwein
Anderson - Mata - Herrera
Rooney - Martial

Or take away Rooney and replace him with Schneiderlin (as an extra holding midfielder)​
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What on earth?
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Haha sorry i didnt explain myself very well. We have people talking about pogba, griezmann, fekir all as potential targets & TBH i consider laporte to be an almost guaranteed transfer purely down to his match with van gaals philosophy better than any other LCB who's left footed. I also dont believe in him moving to barcelona; dont ask me why- i just dont see why they would have waited this long.

Just imagine how wonderful but arsenal like it would be to have griezmann,pogba, laporte, schneiderlin martial fekir im the same team =o
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I'm sorry I still don't fully grasp what you're saying
 
You have to be careful with Serie A players. I actually think brazilian league is on par these days with them bar juve.
 
He's also very good with both feet which makes him unpredictable as a winger. There was an article from De Telegraaf in the summer saying LVG had been asking coaching in Intaly what they thought of him. I have seen him play and I think he's far more talented than any winger we have at the club including Memphis.
 
Gambit said:
Have a youtube vid
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Every single bit of play in this video is him counterattacking, then kick-and-chasing the ball into space.

I appreciate that compilation vids never tell the whole story, but if you assume that this is a 'best of', I'm not sure he's the kind of player who we're going to get the most out of.

Reminds me of the Depay compilations before he signed for us.
 
Dante said:
Every single bit of play in this video is him counterattacking, then kick-and-chasing the ball into space.

I appreciate that compilation vids never tell the whole story, but if you assume that this is a 'best of', I'm not sure he's the kind of player who we're going to get the most out of.

Reminds me of the Depay compilations before he signed for us.
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Difference is that he doesnt need to run at players to beat them, can do it from a standstill too. Just needs to sort out his consistency imo to be a true star.
 
Very unimpressive in general play from what I've seen. I'd take Mané over him simply because he doesn't drift through games in the same way.
 
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