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Yep. The Schickeria has been vocal about this many times before.Nice to see the ultras taking this stance. And Rummenigge... less said the better.
Yep. The Schickeria has been vocal about this many times before.Nice to see the ultras taking this stance. And Rummenigge... less said the better.
The Schicksen have *always* been outspoken and sometimes exemplary on such issues, be it discrimination or other things.Nice to see the ultras taking this stance. And Rummenigge... less said the better.
You are basing this conviction on? Press reports? Gut feeling? Fredi Bobic's ITK?It will be Tuchel
Would you guys be interested in Antonio Conte?I mean,he's won 4 league titles and he's a champion in 2 different leagues.In terms of pedigree and success,he's way ahead of Tuchel...But maybe Bayern won't appreciate his style of play...I'd like to start some discussion on the impending huge decision on who will become our new coach.
First off, let's acknowledge what a good decision it was to part with Ancelotti when we did, and what an inspired solution it was to persuade Heynckes to return for the season.
I was wishing for a Tuchel appointment at the time, and the Heynckes return came completely out of the blue. As I'm still favouring Tuchel, I'm wondering whether this meant a decision against Tuchel, who was available after all? Rummenigge said it wasn't, we'll see.
In any case, Jupp solved the main problems surrounding Ancelotti's exit almost magically, like a deus ex machina:
- he bought the board time for a long term solution in summer, with a new coach not having to slot in midseason under immediate pressure, not having to serve as a fireman, and having the benefit of a full preparation (which is great for any, and potentially youngish, new coaches coming in)
- his authority and his being synonymous with out last great success served to quash the growing dissatisfaction and disunity within the dressing room and also in public - noone can dare to moan about Jupp without looking bad, and it was instant good press
- his rapport with players is immense, both with the Germans, the old guard, as well as the Spanish-speaking faction. Think how he was Vidal's mentor at Leverkusen, how he brought the midfielder Martinez back to action, Ribéry, etc.
- on top of that, results have been great, and a sense of determination is back to our football (even if we still don't look very stable)
Now, what about the future?
After it was initially clearly communicated Heynckes would only serve until the end of the season, Hoeneß has since been driving a public campaign about how he wants to try to persuade his buddy to stay for another season. He's done so in his inimitably brash way that had to come to anyone's attention, and the media have not ceased to ask Jupp about it since. However, Jupp is visibly annoyed by this, has strongly stated that there's no way this will happen, so it seems an odd miscalculation by Hoeneß to insist on this the way he did.
One interpretation of Hoeneß's media push might be that he favours Nagelsmann, who according to reports would only be available with Hopp's (another Hoeneß buddy) blessing in 2019, to come then after another year of Jupp. Maybe Tuchel is rather favoured by Rummenigge..
In any case, the board has stated publicly that it will be a "German" coach at Bayern in 2018/19, which rules out otherwise perfectly reasonable candidates like Allegri or Sarri, who I think should absolutely be considered (provided Allegri became available).
I wonder whether it also rules out Hasenhüttl lol, or whether they were thinking about .. err.. GREATER Germany
Hasenhüttl should definitively be one of the main candidates to take over.
So who are the top candidates then?
Tuchel - available, has proven he can have a team perform both attractively, successfully AND consistently in the league (best 2nd place team ever in 2015/16). Has proven he can develop youngsters, has won a cup, while his limited CL experience at least includes winning the group ahead of later winners Real. He's more or less a Bavarian, too. As for negatives, his falling outs with both the Mainz and BVB boards are an alarm signal, one that I am willing to ignore however. I'm all for him, he will very likely provide good football and entertainment, and quite possibly success too - if it doesn't work we can always fire him and get Nagelsmann who will be like 33 years old then.
Nagelsmann - his job at Hoffenheim can only be described as something like miracle work. Led a poor team out of the lower table areas into CL quali, kept it in the uppper ranks despite the club disgustingly selling every player with quality that is valuable. I would be absolutely ok with us just giving him a shot, even if I have a feeling he's not quite experienced yet to mentally survive a potential bad spell with us and I'd hate to have him burned out too soon, as he's so young. So while I would welcome him, I'd say get him later.
Hasenhüttl - has proven he can get a team to be competitive and successful, even with little resources at Ingolstadt, and within the confines of Leipzig's U23 strategy. His teams are no pushovers, they are nasty oppponents, they are consistent, and I like his authority. He's basically the Austrian Simeone with a little less nasty antagonism. I would take him no questions asked.
Other candidates:
Jogi Löw - there's been rumours now and the. He might quit after another World Cup win, etc. Of course, Bayern would need to make a decision on who's coming way before we know who wins the World Cup. If Hoeneß can't persuade Jupp..
Basically, I dislike him and don't rate him, but have stopped practising this persuasion after the World Cup win, an achievement which can't be denied, and the frankly fantastic stuff that the German NT played during the Euros, and the unbelievable move that was winning the Confed Cup with a U-21 C-team.
I have made my peace with him as NT coach, but I'm still strongly against him as Bayern coach - his club record is laughable and abysmal.
My feeling anyway is he'll try to stay NT coach, which is the best job anyone can dream of, as long as possible.
KLOPPO - while he's of course an obnoxious Dampfplauderer, I would take him instantly, maybe even as no1 choice over Tuchel. Undeniably a force as a coach. Would only become an option if the Liverpool 'project' comprehensively breaks down until the summer, which I don't see happening.
Favre - should not be ignored, old friend of Rummenigge.
Kovac - doing a great job at Franfurt, also part of the Bayern family.
So yeah, we have a number of good options. My only hope is that our board doesn't grant Mats fecking Hummels the power to talk them out of appointing Tuchel.
Thoughts?
I'd like to start some discussion on the impending huge decision on who will become our new coach.........
Thoughts?
They (Rummenigge or Hoeneß, can’t recall) mentioned that it will be a German coach. The obvious ones being Tuchel and Nagelsmann.Would you guys be interested in Antonio Conte?I mean,he's won 4 league titles and he's a champion in 2 different leagues.In terms of pedigree and success,he's way ahead of Tuchel...But maybe Bayern won't appreciate his style of play...
You are basing this conviction on? Press reports? Gut feeling? Fredi Bobic's ITK?
Makes sense. However, if I understand Rummenigge's announcement of a 'German' coach coming in as an implicit acknowlegdement it's not going to be Hasenhüttl, I certainly would hope they seriously considered Hasenhüttl before ruling him out, as he seems to me a much more logical candidate than Nagelsmann at this point.Process of elimination.
Nagelsmann, Kovac - don't have a big enough pedigree yet
Hasenhüttl - Not a German
Löw (the only thinkable alternative) - long lasting DFB contract
Klopp - is happy at Liverpool
Would you guys be interested in Antonio Conte?I mean,he's won 4 league titles and he's a champion in 2 different leagues.In terms of pedigree and success,he's way ahead of Tuchel...But maybe Bayern won't appreciate his style of play...
It's a thankless job really,I mean,winning the bundesliga at Bayern is hardly an achievement,so it's all about the CL.I frankly think that the Bayern job may not interest a lot of top managers because of the lack of competition in the bundesliga....Even PSG lost the title last season,Juventus could finish 2nd this season but its same old,same old again in Germany....Makes sense. However, if I understand Rummenigge's announcement of a 'German' coach coming in as an implicit acknowlegdement it's not going to be Hasenhüttl, I certainly would hope they seriously considered Hasenhüttl before ruling him out, as he seems to me a much more logical candidate than Nagelsmann at this point.
And if it indeed Tuchel is the clear favourite, why the whole "we are trying to convince Jupp and have no plan B" stuff? If the club is seriously negotiating with Tuchel, this has to be somewhat disrespectful, or some sort of power play. I don't get it.
Strictly based on merit and quality, Conte should be a top candidate for any big club job. He's a proven top coach.
However, for the Bayern job this summer, I dont have the feeling he'd be the perfect fit, and neither do I have the feeling he would be willing to come to Bundesliga at this point, and all it entails (learning some German, especially). I sense he's more leaning towards a return to Italy, as NT coach or maybe even Milan. And I'm not sure how his approach would fit with our current squad and style, he seems like someone with strong convictions.
That's because we tend to fire managers who look like they won't manage to win the league, so it's a bit of an odd way to argueIt's a thankless job really,I mean,winning the bundesliga at Bayern is hardly an achievement,so it's all about the CL.I frankly think that the Bayern job may not interest a lot of top managers because of the lack of competition in the bundesliga....Even PSG lost the title last season,Juventus could finish 2nd this season but its same old,same old again in Germany....
Ancelotti won the league comfortably last season,but I think the board were still not really satisfied cause you didn't do well in Europe.I think that even Guardiolas tenure is considered to be a "moderate success" cause he didn't reach a CL final.My point though was that Bayerns hegemony over the bundesliga doesn't make it a very attractive proposition for the top top managers in the world.The bundesliga is a 1 horse race,at least for the title....That's because we tend to fire managers who look like they won't manage to win the league, so it's a bit of an odd way to argue
Honestly, can see them winning another treble.
Honestly, can see them winning another treble.
Only Barca would beat themWould not like their chances against Barca, City or even PSG.
Would not like their chances against Barca, City or even PSG.
As good as Heynkes is, I don't think he can make Bayern win the UCL this season. Its an ageing squad with some of the younger players (Coman, Tolisso) not good enough at the moment to cover for them. Muller really needs to start stepping up as well.
They already beat PSG (Although PSG created enough chances to score)
When the group was already decided.
Our last 3 managers being Heynckes, Pep, and Ancelotti, I think you would conclude that top managers do actually take on the Bayern job.Ancelotti won the league comfortably last season,but I think the board were still not really satisfied cause you didn't do well in Europe.I think that even Guardiolas tenure is considered to be a "moderate success" cause he didn't reach a CL final.My point though was that Bayerns hegemony over the bundesliga doesn't make it a very attractive proposition for the top top managers in the world.The bundesliga is a 1 horse race,at least for the title....
He is on a goal or assist every 100 minutes in the league. That‘s probably better than for example Griezmann. I’m not sure how you can compare that to a „Rooney-esque decline“.I've completely forgot about Muller. Rooney-esque decline incoming ?
People who watch Bayern every after full moon and the occasional international match have unanimously reached the conclusion that Müller is utter crap and can't hit a barndoor.He is on a goal or assist every 100 minutes in the league. That‘s probably better than for example Griezmann. I’m not sure how you can compare that to a „Rooney-esque decline“.
In fact, he's just returning to his former self. Scored a typical Müller goal against Schalke in the first halfI've completely forgot about Muller. Rooney-esque decline incoming ?
He’s back to form for quite a while now. The Müller criticism is about two years late.In fact, he's just returning to his former self. Scored a typical Müller goal against Schalke in the first half
His play has been good for quite some time, but he's quite recently started scoring again.He’s back to form for quite a while now. The Müller criticism is about two years late.
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