FC Bayern 16/17 discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.
Cristiano Lell said:
After he got injured in July, the club had tweeted his 'season start' would 'not be in danger'.
Click to expand...
In the last few years you can add a couple of extra weeks/months to literally every such prediction Bayern gives.
 
Hummels looked kinda shaky at times yesterday against the superpower Norway. Nevertheless, we still should be fine with him partnering Martinez for the next few weeks.
 
It makes me sad to see how these clubs are run, they never stop strengthening. I look at our 2008/2009 team and remember the words 'there is no value in the market'. I look at this Bayern team and feel overwhelmed when I think that this is what we aspire to be, its going to take us another 150-200 million for us to get here unless Tim, Cbj and Pareira comeback next season ready to do what Kimmich is doing for Bayern.

They have very strong 11 and backups that would walk into other big teams. Just look at Robben, Ribery and Costa anyone of them could stroll into our team yet when all fit one of them has to stay on the bench. Its quiet sad how much we have fallen. We are the real reason English teams have been so bad in Europe, before our fall from grace teams had to work hard to keep up with us and now that we have fallen they are slacking because the big bad wolf or devil in this case is sleeping.​
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Varun
flappyjay said:
It makes me sad to see how these clubs are run, they never stop strengthening. I look at our 2008/2009 team and remember the words 'there is no value in the market'. I look at this Bayern team and feel overwhelmed when I think that this is what we aspire to be, its going to take us another 150-200 million for us to get here unless Tim, Cbj and Pareira comeback next season ready to do what Kimmich is doing for Bayern. A very strong 11 and backups that would walk into other big teams. Just look at Robben, Ribery and Costa anyone of them could stroll into our team yet when all fit one of them has to stay on the bench. Its quiet sad how much we have fallen. We are the real reason English teams have been so bad in Europe, before our fall from grace teams had to work hard to keep up with us and now that we have fallen they are slacking because the big bad wolf or devil in this case is sleeping.​
Click to expand...
Get a grip.
 
flappyjay said:
We are the real reason English teams have been so bad in Europe, before our fall from grace teams had to work hard to keep up with us and now that we have fallen they are slacking because the big bad wolf or devil in this case is sleeping.​
Click to expand...

That's a pretty strange comment. I don't see how it's United's fault the other English sides have been crap in Europe.
 
Jayvin said:
That's a pretty strange comment. I don't see how it's United's fault the other English sides have been crap in Europe.
Click to expand...
I guess you can make that connection, by inferring a general drop in quality of the league from the decline of it's top team(s) - but that belongs to the 'relative strength of the PL'-discussion.
 
flappyjay said:
It makes me sad to see how these clubs are run, they never stop strengthening. I look at our 2008/2009 team and remember the words 'there is no value in the market'. I look at this Bayern team and feel overwhelmed when I think that this is what we aspire to be, its going to take us another 150-200 million for us to get here unless Tim, Cbj and Pareira comeback next season ready to do what Kimmich is doing for Bayern. A very strong 11 and backups that would walk into other big teams. Just look at Robben, Ribery and Costa anyone of them could stroll into our team yet when all fit one of them has to stay on the bench. Its quiet sad how much we have fallen. We are the real reason English teams have been so bad in Europe, before our fall from grace teams had to work hard to keep up with us and now that we have fallen they are slacking because the big bad wolf or devil in this case is sleeping.​
Click to expand...

Bayern has done an exceptional business in the recent 7 years - financially and with squad development.

And it helps with your business if others do not work as sharp as you do. Rummenigge told in an interview about the Sanches transfer that they got wind that the transfer was on hold with United because of the insecure manager situation on the evening prior to the first semi final in Madrid. As a result they invited the president of Sporting Lissabon and Mendes to the match and the dinner at the next evening and even if the party was not so great after the 0:1 loss made an agreement that night about the transfer.
 
Last edited:
Varun said:
Not much wrong there even though the last point is stretching it.
Click to expand...

yes butr people forget Bayern were playing in the UEFA cup not so long ago. These things happen to every big club (Even Barca) so he's being slightly too dramatic. The only team that has genuinely managed to stay on top is Madrid.
 
Ballache said:
yes butr people forget Bayern were playing in the UEFA cup not so long ago. These things happen to every big club (Even Barca) so he's being slightly too dramatic. The only team that has genuinely managed to stay on top is Madrid.
Click to expand...
His point is more about clubs like Bayern and Barca strengthening further while at the top while we chose to lay still when we were in the same position some years back.
 
Varun said:
His point is more about clubs like Bayern and Barca strengthening further while at the top while we chose to lay still when we were in the same position some years back.
Click to expand...

But you have to take your chances. Bayern did not throw away all about van Gaal's philosophy when they fired him but build up on the team and the system he has brought to them. With van Gaal the spine of the team as it has been for long - with Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Ribery and Robben - already stood. And since then has build on it - both tactically and with smart squad additions starting with Neuer and Boateng in 2011. And even now - when the retirement of Lahm, Robben and Ribery is not that far away, it looks like the next spine around Neuer, Müller, Boateng, Alaba and probably Martinez and Thiago will not make it worse.
 
Blackwidow said:
But you have to take your chances. Bayern did not throw away all about van Gaal's philosophy when they fired him but build up on the team and the system he has brought to them. With van Gaal the spine of the team as it has been for long - with Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Ribery and Robben - already stood. And since then has build on it - both tactically and with smart squad additions starting with Neuer and Boateng in 2011. And even now - when the retirement of Lahm, Robben and Ribery is not that far away, it looks like the next spine around Neuer, Müller, Boateng, Alaba and probably Martinez and Thiago will not make it worse.
Click to expand...
I don't think we had an option with Pep going to city as he was the guy best suited to taking over who'd have not only continued to build on what was done but also won things. It's been 3 desperate years for a club that's used to success. Passing on Mourinho to hire another risky manager hoping he builds on what LVG had laid down was never going to happen and understandably so.
 
We've just been poor all-round. When Barca raised the standards in 08/09 Bayern and Madrid tried to chase the new standard while we accepted falling backwards. Ever since we haven't been near a club of this standard and it had already started when Sir Alex was still here.
 
Varun said:
His point is more about clubs like Bayern and Barca strengthening further while at the top while we chose to lay still when we were in the same position some years back.
Click to expand...
Our downfall started the summer Ronaldo left and we brought in Obertan, Owen, and Valencia. We were always going to keep competing in the PL with Ferguson in charge no matter who we bought, but we quickly fell behind Europe's elite and we've been falling further behind ever since.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Our downfall started the summer Ronaldo left and we brought in Obertan, Owen, and Valencia. We were always going to keep competing in the PL with Ferguson in charge no matter who we bought, but we quickly fell behind Europe's elite and we've been falling further behind ever since.
Click to expand...
Yeah, agree with all of that. SAF was too good a manager and we just rested on him winning the PL while letting the squad quality go down and suffering in Europe. With him gone, the problems have come out full force even in the PL.
 
flappyjay said:
It makes me sad to see how these clubs are run, they never stop strengthening. I look at our 2008/2009 team and remember the words 'there is no value in the market'.​
Click to expand...
Just lo0ked up FC Bayerns purchases of 2009 for fun:
Robben from Real
Gomez from Stuttgart
Müler from own reserves
Badstuber from own reserves

in 08/09, we hired Oddo, Borowski and Donovan, so there might have been truth in that sentence :D
 
Three of our players will miss the next game because of the taco shits: Lahm, Alaba and, for the first time in living memory, Thomas Müller. :(

Coman will start, though.
 
Müller missing due to health issues... hell has started to freeze over :eek:
 
Hummels has a cold - the only homegrown players in the squad are Felix Götze who takes over the starting spot of his older brother... :cool: and Green

Kimmich probably in defense today - Boateng and Robben just started team training this week.

CsjidUsWEAAoA99.jpg
 
It's so weird to see a lineup + bench without Müller...

And TuT with his first feckup: "Roberto Sanches" - Never change, Fritz. Never change
 
And Ingolstadt take the lead... wtf? That was horribly easy. Neuer could've defused that easily by coming out quicker.
 
Sanches is a catastrophe once again... he's far, far away from being start worthy
 
Status
Not open for further replies.