Fantasy Tournament: World Cup All-Time All-Stars

Non winners going up to five is horrible

I may have to waste a pick on a keeper here
 
I've planned alright to be fair, but Maier was an unforgivable pick - or at least I should have picked a sub keeper as well as him, like others did. Really bad, bad move now that the non winners have gone up.
 
I cursed Gilmar for winning the worldcup as well a few times, but I think I get away with him and after his marvelous performance in the first penalty shootout, he definitely won't be replaced.
 
I agree, vote-wise it looks excellent but in reality it looks very dysfunctional. Too many chefs, Garrincha will want to have the ball and will drop in to the space of Maradona to get it. Maradona will want to have the ball and operate centrally primarily which is away from Garrincha.

Rivaldo was himself a central playmaker and Eusebio had a lot of his best traits in dropping deep and carrying the ball.

Every single player in that attack wants the ball for themselves and none would accept to be the one standing by the side-lines to "stretch the play" or take primarily make unselfish runs to open up space.

I'm not sold on that team. Maradona and Garrincha is imo a complete no go, there's no way you get remotely the best out of either in this setup and wasn't sold on Rivaldo's role last time, it's even worse now. I hope he plays Boniek there instead of Rivaldo, which helps improve that attack massively, imo.

Kinda strange that Polaroid saw it as a problem in Theon's team that Scirea next to two stoppers might loose his influence on the game with Beckenbauer playing box to box, yet goes the 'fit as many big names as possible in your attack' route there. I'm really interested in his tactical write-up, because I struggle to see Garrincha as an improvement in his team, really.

You all just couldn't wait :lol:









Now imagine Eusebio, Garrincha, Boniek running onto those passes :drool:
 
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Tbf, I said that Boniek will improve that attack a lot in comparison to Rivaldo.
 
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I need a few minutes here, doing my head in how to play Ronaldo :devil:
 
He's finally coming home :drool:.

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Still not sure who's playing with him, but I have 8 more hours :D
 
Ruy Castro in his fantastic biography on Garrincha's helping hand to the defender he left on his bum

Garrincha continued to run rings around them. Then the Soviets resorted to trying to bring him down, largely unsuccessfully. In one memorable incident, after leaving a defender on the ground, Garrincha puts his foot on the ball and with his back to the player offered his hand to help him up. He lifted the player up and started running again as if it were the most natural thing in the world.

http://www.4dfoot.com/2013/07/13/ta...e-three-greatest-minutes-in-football-history/









 
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Draft picks

Pol: 1. Garrincha
Theon: 1. Figueroa
Annah: 1. Pele
Balu: 1. Neeskens 2. Nilton Santos

@Annahnomoss
your turn.
 
I have to say it's really shitty of anna to pick so soon and very weird to start the draft at that hour.
 
I have to say it's really shitty of anna to pick so soon and very weird to start the draft at that hour.

Most people pick as soon it is their turn - nothing personal. People pick instantly so they don't have to stay idling 8 hours more to wait for someone they don't know will arrive.

I am not going to adjust my life to you guys being late and stay here 8 hours extra, even if I of course feel for you both to miss your pick. The time-limits are there for a reason, it ruins the draft for the involved if you don't pick in your 8 hours.


I pick Ronaldo by the way.

Draft picks
Pol: 1. Garrincha
Theon: 1. Figueroa
Annah: 1. Pele 2. Ronaldo
Balu: 1. Neeskens 2. Nilton Santos
 
Most people pick as soon it is their turn - nothing personal. People pick instantly so they don't have to stay idling 8 hours more to wait for someone they don't know will arrive.

I pick Ronaldo by the way.
Personal or not, it was a dick move. Draft starts at 3.30 am so before noon our turn is over. Doesn't make sense. I don't want to point fingers at Pol but he could easily have waited. Especially since he is the organizer and the first pick. He basically threw us under the bus and you didn't call the ambulance.
 
Personal or not, it was a dick move. Draft starts at 3.30 am so before noon our turn is over. Doesn't make sense. I don't want to point fingers at Pol but he could easily have waited. Especially since he is the organizer and the first pick. He basically threw us under the bus and you didn't call the ambulance.

I think calling it a dick move is very harsh. Is it my responsibility to do your job for you? You are pointing fingers at me because you are mad with the draft rules or yourselves.

My responsibility as a manager is to be available to draft as quick as possible to not cause inconvenience to the managers picking after me.
 
Personal or not, it was a dick move. Draft starts at 3.30 am so before noon our turn is over. Doesn't make sense. I don't want to point fingers at Pol but he could easily have waited. Especially since he is the organizer and the first pick. He basically threw us under the bus and you didn't call the ambulance.

The last match ended late and we all know why
Wait to pick and I be damned, pick and I be damned too :rolleyes: how is it my fault that neither of you checked the entire morning?
 
Personal or not, it was a dick move. Draft starts at 3.30 am so before noon our turn is over. Doesn't make sense. I don't want to point fingers at Pol but he could easily have waited. Especially since he is the organizer and the first pick. He basically threw us under the bus and you didn't call the ambulance.
Theon was online last night, when Pol said he'll start the draft soon with his pick? He could have just said something, we should wait for him or start tomorrow or something like that? Not that I care, I waited anyway, but it's a bit harsh to blame us now.

If Theon wasn't online last night and had no clue that it started, then I totally agree with you, but that wasn't the case here.
 
The last match ended late and we all know why
Wait to pick and I be damned, pick and I be damned too :rolleyes: how is it my fault that neither of you checked the entire morning?

Agree. I was on the contrary annoyed Pol took so long. So I don't think it is his fault you guys missed the pick.
 
The last match ended late and we all know why
Wait to pick and I be damned, pick and I be damned too :rolleyes: how is it my fault that neither of you checked the entire morning?

Not sure what you're talking about here Pol, you missed your turn in the draft thread but I waited for you.
 
I think you are being a jerk about it. Balu made you guys a huge favour that nobody else would ever do. Then instead of thanking him sincerely for it you go swinging at the others.
 
I think you guys are being jerks about it. Balu made you guys a huge favour that nobody else would ever do. Then instead of thanking him sincerely for it you go swinging at the others.

Excuse me?

Please post where I have been a jerk about this.
 
Not sure what you're talking about here Pol, you missed your turn in the draft thread but I waited for you.

And I appreciated it by thanking you and asking you to pick ahead of me
But in this instance, how was I to know that
1. neither of you would check the entire morning
2. Annah would not wait
How is the above 2 my fault for throwing you all under the bus as Snow put it?
 
The last match ended late and we all know why
Wait to pick and I be damned, pick and I be damned too :rolleyes: how is it my fault that neither of you checked the entire morning?
I don't get up early on a Saturday. Don't know many who do.

Why didn't you start the draft in the noon? Why did you do it in the middle of the night? It's pretty much over now with only four people picking. It would have finished at the same time if you started it 4 hours ago.
 
And I appreciated it by thanking you and asking you to pick ahead of me
But in this instance, how was I to know that
1. neither of you would check the entire morning
2. Annah would not wait
How is the above 2 my fault for throwing you all under the bus as Snow put it?

Oh, I'm not blaming you for it happening at all.

It just came across as if there was no empathy and we were at fault, when as you know yourself it can sometimes happen, because it happened to you earlier.
 
Theon was online last night, when Pol said he'll start the draft soon with his pick? He could have just said something, we should wait for him or start tomorrow or something like that? Not that I care, I waited anyway, but it's a bit harsh to blame us now.

If Theon wasn't online last night and had no clue that it started, then I totally agree with you, but that wasn't the case here.
Did anyone see Theon get a conformation that this was going to start? Pol posted at midnight. Then he started the draft 3 hours later. Theon never commented on it. I wasn't even on.
 
It was unfortunate on Theons part. Annah was entitled to pick given the rules but it would probably have been a good gesture given the work you's have all put in, and with so few remaining, to have given Theon an extra couple of hours to realise the picking had re-started.
 
Let's just drop it anyway - I never brought this up by the way but it will look as if I'm bitching about it when I'm not. So lets just drop it please.
 
Did anyone see Theon get a conformation that this was going to start? Pol posted at midnight. Then he started the draft 3 hours later. Theon never commented on it. I wasn't even on.
He didn't confirm it, but he did post in the same thread 10 minutes after Pol wrote it:

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wc-all-time-all-stars-qf4-anto-vs-theon.383068/page-4#post-14931824

If he missed it, it's really unfortunate, but it wasn't competely unreasonable to assume Theon knew that the draft started, imo.
 
I don't get up early on a Saturday. Don't know many who do.

Why didn't you start the draft in the noon? Why did you do it in the middle of the night? It's pretty much over now with only four people picking. It would have finished at the same time if you started it 4 hours ago.

As in the last round, the draft starts right after the last match and your match finished after midnight! why? because the previous day, Anto and I waited until midnight for you to appear and start the match
I already stated I was going to make my pick, you all were aware and now start going on about how you don't get up on saturday mornings, and that is my fault?! unbelievable!
 
Let's just drop it anyway - I never brought this up by the way but it will look as if I'm bitching about it when I'm not. So lets just drop it please.

Theon, sorry that you missed your turn, it was never my intention, as you know from previous drafts, I have always used my own time allocation for the previous manager who missed his turn
The way Snow behaved is another matter, it is open for all to judge
 
Oh, I'm not blaming you for it happening at all.

It just came across as if there was no empathy and we were at fault, when as you know yourself it can sometimes happen, because it happened to you earlier.

I cannot blame you for missing your turn, what was unreasonable and childish was Snow's conduct.
 
I agree that it is unfortunate, like I said for me there is nothing personal and I feel for Theon.

Personally I am available waiting from the time it is the person before me's turn. So when their turn is up I have spent 8 hours just waiting for them - I am not going to spend 16 hours waiting for them and risk falling asleep/going to work and ruining my own pick.
 
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I cannot blame you for missing your turn, what was unreasonable and childish was Snow's conduct.

Right well as I said lets just drop it now. He's annoyed because of the calibre of player we missed out on, but its no big deal.

I dont think he should be blaming you for what its worth, I can understand why he might think Annah should have waited but criticising you doesnt make much sense.
 
Going to have to take a risk here and go with Yashin, otherwise I will be screwed for the next round... Hopefully the risk pays off.

@Polaroid
 
Theons gonna troll us all now and wait 7hrs 59mins for his next pick

:lol: Weird timing!

Nah, I was out with the missus and needed time to try and think a way around the restrictions