I will take Bacary Sagna.
Fantasy tournament: World Cup 2014
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Curtains!
I had a discussion with Crappy earlier today on next target but he never established what he agreed with as next pick. I'll check as soon as I wake up and make the pick if he hasn't shown up, 8 hours from now tops. It's pretty much the eight hours of sleep we got this window on unfortunately.
I'm sure Theon will wait a bit longer if you need to, seems a tad unfair that your 8 hours come at this time of night.
Alright, I am here.
I pick Adnan Januzaj
I pick Adnan Januzaj
Jake 1. Andres Iniesta 2. Phillip Lahm 3. Edison Cavani 4. Daniel Alves .5 Alexis Sanchez 6.Lovren 7. Lampard 8. Shaqiri 9. Witsel
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa
Alright, I am here.
I pick Adnan Januzaj
Belgium or Croatia? Technically he can be either and hasn't represented anyone.
We can wait from a ruling from Pol as to what needs to happen here. I will admit that this is a brainchild of anto as well.
Till Pol's ruling I will ask Theon not to make his pick.
Personally I think it's fair enough if you pick him as Belgian, his dad has said he'd never play for Croatia.
Didn't he or his dad say he wants to play for Albania?
Croatia? I thought it was Belgium, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey or Serbia? How is he eligible to play for Croatia?
I think he's rather debatable since he might choose Albania.
I never suggested him as Croatian TBH, I fully expected him to take up a Belgian slot which is fair enough considering the quality available in Belgium (only two players haven't picked there yet and will likely still get great players).
Arguing the Croatian angle would be a bit of a pisstake but he was born and raised in Belgium, Belgium is going to be in the World Cup, so it isn't outlandish to consider him eligible for this draft. Otherwise you would have to rule out any uncapped players with multiple nationalities.
If you tried to squeeze him as English on account of maybe him spending five years and getting nationality... that's well dodgy of course.
I thought about it around turn 2 and was planning to break it to crappy as a 12th turn curveball but was starting to get cold feet it may not be that original a thought with Theon and Pol positioned straight after us!!!!
Arguing the Croatian angle would be a bit of a pisstake but he was born and raised in Belgium, Belgium is going to be in the World Cup, so it isn't outlandish to consider him eligible for this draft. Otherwise you would have to rule out any uncapped players with multiple nationalities.
If you tried to squeeze him as English on account of maybe him spending five years and getting nationality... that's well dodgy of course.
I thought about it around turn 2 and was planning to break it to crappy as a 12th turn curveball but was starting to get cold feet it may not be that original a thought with Theon and Pol positioned straight after us!!!!
Do we really want to wait for Pol befoe Theon picks? I think it is just a matter of which nationality he can go under, not whether he can be picked.
Do we have any quotes or anything that strongly indicates that he will play for Belgium? From what I can see he's refused the Belgian call up a few times already. What if he doesn't end up in a WC squad at the time of the judging?
Something this controversial had to be anto's brainchild.
Something this controversial had to be anto's brainchild.
Do we have any quotes or anything that strongly indicates that he will play for Belgium? From what I can see he's refused the Belgian call up a few times already. What if he doesn't end up in a WC squad at the time of the judging?
Something this controversial had to be anto's brainchild.
So what? The draft rules never said anything about necessity of having the player selected in WC squad
What I meant was what if he's not part of any country's setup that is participating in the WC? Say he chooses Albania before the WC, what then?
Would you pick him on the condition that he wouldn't sign for a non WC nation before this thing gets judged, else you can't start him in a game?
Yeah, that's why I said let the draft runner make a ruling on it as to what will happen if he declares for a country not participating in the WC
Yeah Pol needs to make a call.
All players whose nations will be at WC 2014, are available for drafting.
That is the rule, technically Adnan doesn't qualify. Anyway, whatever Pol decides.
Do we have any quotes or anything that strongly indicates that he will play for Belgium? From what I can see he's refused the Belgian call up a few times already. What if he doesn't end up in a WC squad at the time of the judging?
Something this controversial had to be anto's brainchild.
It never occurred to me participating players HAD to be in the WC squad, just eligible. Going back to your Costa enquiry, we agreed he was more likely to play for Spain but we never got into whether he would be in their squad or not. Irrelevant IMO, that's Del Bosque's job. In this case I can only see him playing for Albania due to roots or for Belgium and have a better shot at Euros/WCs, but I don't see him ever playing for Croatia really.
Yeah I cleared that post up later.
That would be ludicrous. Mind you, there aren't any official matches planned for Albania and thus there's no way he would be ineligible for Belgium come May.
Christ, you would think this is Lionel Messi we are talking about. He is a kid, uncapped, only just broke through, plays for us, and you want him out of contention due to undeclared nationality?
Adnan is Belgian, he was born in Brussels, he is eligible for Belgium if he got called up and chose to play for them, and Belgium have qualified for the World Cup. In what world is he technically ineligible?
Because he hasn't been called up yet? He doesn't represent Belgium as of now. If he does, obviously there's no question.
Actually I agree with anto. Even if he declares for Albania before the WC, it does not make him ineligible for Belgium.
I refer you to your quote above: All players whose nations will be at WC 2014, are available for drafting. His nation will be at WC2014, thus he is available for drafting, callups don't come into it.
How is Belgium his nation when he hasn't decided yet?
Anyway, let's just wait for Pol to decide. It's his call in the end.
Aldo is just butthurt he didn't think about it himself.
Wolf.
Wolf.
I'm not bothered much about the pick, as I said I'm okay with it as long as it falls within the draft boundary.In my neutral opinion I would say that the pick is allowed. If he chooses Albania in the meantime, friendly or no friendly, the slot will simply have to be re-picked. By then the draft will be over and so there will be less to choose from. It's a crappy risk.
So no one can pick anyone who hasn't been capped yet, that would be your rule? Anyone from any nationality who has not been capped could technically be from multiple nationalities as they could acquire a new one through X years playing there. Almunia can't be considered Spanish because he could play for England, basically he is nationless in your book because he didn't get a call up? Actually, I have no nation since I never played for Uruguay profesionally and hold a British passport. Makes no sense.
Even more ridiculous, in a draft featuring world champions and multiple CL winners a players' eligibility is questioned on account of him never having been capped. Bizarre.
I didn't make the rules. Pol did, so his definition of what 'someone's country' means applies.
I would have made the rule of country of birth being counted in case of such situations, to remove any confusion.
According to Wiki, his Yugoslav roots qualify him for Croatia if he chooses, but his dad has already categorically refused.
Is Adnan the new polemic guy at United?
What's really the big deal? It's a football draft in a forum, we are already introducing enough risk drafting 6 months in advance (form, injuries, etc.) to start saying a player would have to be repicked if he played an unofficial kickabout with another NT (as of now Albania have no games scheduled). It's pretty simple, come the WC he would still be eligible, whether he gets called up and agrees is the sort of stuff you can't hold against crappycraperson on redcafe.net.
Has the look and feel of the twilight zone this.
Is Adnan the new polemic guy at United?
God, there's an entire thread on his eligibility and no one got anywhere with it other than "when the time comes he will make up his mind, and it won't be England".
Chill, anto. Why don't we just wait for Pol?
Crappycraperson can pick Januzaj, but he has to make clear the nationality he is picking him on
Come the tournament proper in May, it is necessary for Januzaj to have declared his allegiance to that particular nation in order for Crappycraperson's pick to be effective
Come the tournament proper in May, it is necessary for Januzaj to have declared his allegiance to that particular nation in order for Crappycraperson's pick to be effective
I'm fine mate, was just going to bed and saw crappy had posted, then I saw the Croatia stuff and though "Oh boy, some won't be happy with that" (we've always planned for him as Belgian). What is ridiculous is the notion that a manager who has drafted for a game in December may have to repick a 9th pick from poth 12th turn leftovers in May on the back of circumstances completely out of anyone's control on here.
It is a gamble with one squad place but it could be one that pays off, that is part of the fun in this game
WTF????? Where the hell did the OP say that? There are zillions of players out there with multiple nationalities with undeclared allegiance, simply because they either haven't been called up or, as is the case here, don't think it is wise to choose so early in his career.
As per the schedule posted earlier in the thread, our tournament would be after the CL final
I think Januzaj would make clear his allegiance by then if he intends to represent a nation at the WC
I think Januzaj would make clear his allegiance by then if he intends to represent a nation at the WC