Fantasy tournament: World Cup 2014

4 non-winners and 5 pre/post 1974 for me

We've just done an all time decade draft
 
Good to hear everybody's thoughts
Anybody has objections if we go by the following

Of the 11 on the pitch
1. At most 6 from 1 continent
2. At most 6 WC winners
3. At most 6 from either 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (going by the first WC the player appeared in)
 
Good to hear everybody's thoughts
Anybody has objections if we go by the following

Of the 11 on the pitch
1. At most 6 from 1 continent
2. At most 6 WC winners
3. At most 6 from either 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (going by the first WC the player appeared in)

So Beckenbauer would then count as a -1970 player?
 
Good to hear everybody's thoughts
Anybody has objections if we go by the following

Of the 11 on the pitch
1. At most 6 from 1 continent
2. At most 6 WC winners
3. At most 6 from either 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (going by the first WC the player appeared in)

Sounds about right. Don't really see the major constraint in the continent bit but fair enough.

I know it breaks the 6 rule but I wouldn't go over 4 non-winners as a requirement, 5 is a push. Yes, there are some classic non-winners, but a fair few World Cup runner ups actually won it inside the same generation of players, particularly the ones most people have seen play: France 06, Brazil 98, Argentina 90, Germany 86 & 82, less so the Germans and 66... You wouldn't be surprised most of the best World Cup players have actually won the darned thing :lol: You otherwise make a few players very very handy but, with the other constraints also chipping in, you are bound to get some major obscure shit with 16 managers and some cracking players (and winners) missing out instead. I'm happy with tight constraints though, the tighter the more fun it is, just saying.
 
Good to hear everybody's thoughts
Anybody has objections if we go by the following

Of the 11 on the pitch
1. At most 6 from 1 continent
2. At most 6 WC winners
3. At most 6 from either 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (going by the first WC the player appeared in)


Just a suggestion, but think it'd be better to limit the squad rather than the teams, otherwise you can hardly make any changes during the voting.
 
Sounds about right. Don't really see the major constraint in the continent bit but fair enough.

I know it breaks the 6 rule but I wouldn't go over 4 non-winners as a requirement, 5 is a push. Yes, there are some classic non-winners, but a fair few World Cup runner ups actually won it inside the same generation of players, particularly the ones most people have seen play: France 06, Brazil 98, Argentina 90, Germany 86 & 82, less so the Germans and 66... You wouldn't be surprised most of the best World Cup players have actually won the darned thing :lol: You otherwise make a few players very very handy but, with the other constraints also chipping in, you are bound to get some major obscure shit with 16 managers and some cracking players (and winners) missing out instead. I'm happy with tight constraints though, the tighter the more fun it is, just saying.

We can make it at most 7 winners for the 1st round and Q-final, before tightening it to at most 6 winners for the S-final and final
 
Just a suggestion, but think it'd be better to limit the squad rather than the teams, otherwise you can hardly make any changes during the voting.

I am open to it, what do the rest think?
 
What about following the format of the CL draft where you must have at least 3 non-winners. And if you want one more constraint then the team must contain players from at least 3 continents.
 
What about following the format of the CL draft where you must have at least 3 non-winners. And if you want one more constraint then the team must contain players from at least 3 continents.


That's quite interesting, max of 7 from any and a minimum of 3 confederations seems fair.
 
Blatter would love it. It's a world game after all.

I'm not overly keen TBH, there really aren't more than a handful of non-European/South American players who should be involved in this. The best of the lot performance-wise was Milla and no one wants to start Roger Milla upfront, surely.
 
True. It would bring down the standard somewhat. I'd just have the 3 (or 4) non winners rule and thats it. But what Pol decides is fine.
 
Manager list for WC All-Time All-Stars

Jayvin
TITO
Theon
NM
Aldo
Anto
Gio
Crappy
Fergus
Pol
Cal
Cutch
Snow (Asst)
Desert

3 vacancies left

For the 11 on the pitch
1. at most 6 from 1 continent
2. at most 7 WC winners (reduced to 6 from Semi onwards)
3. at most 6 from 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (go by player's first appearance)
 
For the 11 on the pitch
1. at most 6 from 1 continent
2. at most 7 WC winners (reduced to 6 from Semi onwards)
3. at most 6 from 1970 and earlier or post 1970 (go by player's first appearance)

Just detail here:

squad or XI? I'm for XI myself.

At most 6 before and inc. or after 1970? That means 5 and 5 with one going either way, right? Sounds good to have that one player acting as pivot (otherwise may be too restrictive) but keeping proportions broadly. Good idea.
 
Just detail here:

squad or XI? I'm for XI myself.

At most 6 before and inc. or after 1970? That means 5 and 5 with one going either way, right? Sounds good to have that one player acting as pivot (otherwise may be too restrictive) but keeping proportions broadly. Good idea.

XI, not worth the hassle to set varying limits with squad size expanding after each round

Yes the combination is 6-5 or 5-6
 
PMed Jake to wrap up the drafting. Drafting will close in 12 hrs and teams locked in till after the CL final when the games begin.
 
Jake 1. Andres Iniesta 2. Phillip Lahm 3. Edison Cavani 4. Daniel Alves .5 Alexis Sanchez 6.Lovren 7. Lampard 8. Shaqiri 9. Witsel 10. Garay 11. Buffon
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna 10. Ramos 11. Begovic
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj 10. Bonucci 11. gimenez 12. De Gea
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Akinfeev 10. Xavi 11. Chicharito 12. Luiz Gustavo
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti 9. Muller 10. Howard 11. Aurier 12. Courtois
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez 9. Asamoah 10. Rafael 11. Enyeama 12. Mandzukic
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna 9. Sokratis Papastathopoulos 10. Balotelli 11.Keylor Navas 12. Gökhan Inler
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa, 9. Didier Drogba, 10. Nani, 11. Manuel Neuer, 12. Wesley Sneijder

Fergus has not picked as well?
I thought Jake was the only one left
 
I have mate, it was Kevin Prince Boateng.

Sorry I can't update the lists.
 
It's fine mate, updated below

Jake 1. Andres Iniesta 2. Phillip Lahm 3. Edison Cavani 4. Daniel Alves .5 Alexis Sanchez 6.Lovren 7. Lampard 8. Shaqiri 9. Witsel 10. Garay 11. Buffon
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna 10. Ramos 11. Begovic 12. Prince Boateng
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj 10. Bonucci 11. gimenez 12. De Gea
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Akinfeev 10. Xavi 11. Chicharito 12. Luiz Gustavo
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti 9. Muller 10. Howard 11. Aurier 12. Courtois
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez 9. Asamoah 10. Rafael 11. Enyeama 12. Mandzukic
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna 9. Sokratis Papastathopoulos 10. Balotelli 11.Keylor Navas 12. Gökhan Inler
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa, 9. Didier Drogba, 10. Nani, 11. Manuel Neuer, 12. Wesley Sneijder
 
It's fine mate, updated below

Jake 1. Andres Iniesta 2. Phillip Lahm 3. Edison Cavani 4. Daniel Alves .5 Alexis Sanchez 6.Lovren 7. Lampard 8. Shaqiri 9. Witsel 10. Garay 11. Buffon
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna 10. Ramos 11. Begovic 12. Prince Boateng
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj 10. Bonucci 11. gimenez 12. De Gea
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Akinfeev 10. Xavi 11. Chicharito 12. Luiz Gustavo
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti 9. Muller 10. Howard 11. Aurier 12. Courtois
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez 9. Asamoah 10. Rafael 11. Enyeama 12. Mandzukic
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna 9. Sokratis Papastathopoulos 10. Balotelli 11.Keylor Navas 12. Gökhan Inler
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa, 9. Didier Drogba, 10. Nani, 11. Manuel Neuer, 12. Wesley Sneijder


What a result for me, Drogba & Sneijder through to the last 16 of the CL, all those Juve players sent packing in the group stage. :drool:
 
It's fine mate, updated below

Jake 1. Andres Iniesta 2. Phillip Lahm 3. Edison Cavani 4. Daniel Alves .5 Alexis Sanchez 6.Lovren 7. Lampard 8. Shaqiri 9. Witsel 10. Garay 11. Buffon
Fergus 1. Rooney 2. Yaya Toure 3.Kompany 4. Lavezzi 5. Oscar 6. Pirlo 7. Reus 8. Coentrao 9. Sagna 10. Ramos 11. Begovic 12. Prince Boateng
Crappy 1. Frank Ribery 2. Aguero 3. Dante 4. Strootman 5. Moutinho 6. Baines 7. Gotze 8. Torosidis 9. Januzaj 10. Bonucci 11. gimenez 12. De Gea
Theon 1. Falcao 2. Suarez 3. Modric 4. Chiellini 5. Hummels 6. Di Maria 7. Ashley Cole 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Akinfeev 10. Xavi 11. Chicharito 12. Luiz Gustavo
Pol 1. Van Persie 2. Vidal 3. Javi Martinez 4. Varane 5. Marcelo 6. Godin 7. James Rodriguez 8. Verratti 9. Muller 10. Howard 11. Aurier 12. Courtois
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez 9. Asamoah 10. Rafael 11. Enyeama 12. Mandzukic
Isotope 1. Neymar 2. Mesut Özil 3. Pogba 4. Pepe 5. David Silva 6. Mascherano, 7. Jan Vertonghen 8. Darijo Srna 9. Sokratis Papastathopoulos 10. Balotelli 11.Keylor Navas 12. Gökhan Inler
Cal 1. Thiago Silva, 2. Sergio Busquets, 3. Daniele De Rossi, 4. Eden Hazard, 5. Phil Jones, 6. Pablo Zabaleta, 7. Patrice Evra, 8. Shinji Kagawa, 9. Didier Drogba, 10. Nani, 11. Manuel Neuer, 12. Wesley Sneijder

Still no update from Jake despite PM
Can't wait indefinitely while matches continue to be played in the real world. Will lock the above picks until the games start in May.
 
Shite, I still need a sub. Sorry I'll do it now.
 
Just checking this..

I think been going good for me

Aguero, Ribery ,Januzaj , Gotze looking good.
In defense - Bonucci, De gea, Dante doing well as well.

Only question marks are against Baines and Mouthinho perhaps.
 
Aldo 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Robben 3. Carrick 4. Fabregas 5. Lukaku 6. Barzagli 7. Koscielny 8. Tevez 9. Asamoah 10. Rafael 11. Enyeama 12. Mandzukic

Oh dear :lol: