Fantasy Premier League 22/23

Moby said:
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Neto is nailed mate.
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It's funny how we've flipped. I'm completely off him after the Jimi injury as that hurts wolves as an attacking team and also reduces his assist potential.
Andycoleno9 said:
My team is defo locked now. Waiting friday now.
Ramsdale (i wanted someone from Arsenal in defence and he will have fair share of CS)
Cancelo, Dalot, TAA, Perisic, James
Salah, Rashford, Mahrez
Kane (c), Jesus

Risking with Rashford only but for 6.5 it is worth it.

Now, play on!
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That's a good team of everyone plays but a few too many minutes risks for me.
bond19821982 said:
Actually a lot ! Villa has some nice fixtures, try taking a punt on our full backs, Newcastle has excellent fixtures or even Arsenal.

I have Trent, Cancelo, Trippier, James and Williams.
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My defense is TAA, Cancelo, James, ????, Williams.

I'm not so high on Villa defense as I've already got Bailey and don't like doubling up on a team that's not a top 6 team and also, your fixtures go off a cliff after the first 3... Arsenal I already have Martinelli and Jesus so don't want triple up on them (that's reserved for only city or pool).

Trippier is the only real alternative but the way I see it, easier to go from Perisic to Trips rather than the other way round.

The main reason I original had Trips ahead of Perisic was so I can have Neto ahead of Bailey but then read that Jiminez is injured and that made the decision for me...

Although swapping Perisic to Trips could mean I swap Martinelli to Rashy .. though I'm not sure that's actually an upgrade?
 
bond19821982 said:
Perisic wouldn't play 90 mins every game. Conte has 4 wing back options and also Lucas who can play Wing back. He is 33 and is coming to the toughest league.

5.5 can be better spent somewhere.
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Perisic is like a Ronaldo regarding fitness. Don't wirry about that. And, sometimes for defender is better to be subbed before 90th minute. When team has CS, i don't mind having defender subbed after 60th minute
 
bond19821982 said:
It's a myth that Conte's game go through the full backs every time. You can actually go back and check the fullbacks of Inter and Chelsea stats under Conte. Yes, he uses them extensively but the creativity has always come from mid or forwards. Son or Kane is an absolute must.

And no, they aren't chilwel and James of last year. Tuchel way of playing full backs is different from Conte's way .

My 2 cents !
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I think most of us are going by the evidence we saw in this Spurs team last season when Doherty turned into a haul machine and even Sess looked fairly aggressive (that Son goal against Liverpool for example). It depends on the players and the system he is playing as well. In this Spurs team Kane drops deep with the two inside forwards and two wingbacks going forward, that's their standard counter attacking route.

And the same happened vs Roma, you can check Perisic's heat map and how advanced he was. In previous preseason games also it hasn't changed, Kane is starting attacks from deep. And Perisic's quality on the ball is far superior to others. That's what Conte has said that he will take players on, create chances like a winger etc.

Either way, if the rest of your team is filled with stable safe picks like Trent, Robertson, Cancelo etc no harm in going for a high ceiling pick in one spot and it also gives you some Spurs coverage if you don't have Kane or Son which a lot wouldn't. Also pretty high EO, if he does bang first couple of games.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
It's funny how we've flipped. I'm completely off him after the Jimi injury as that hurts wolves as an attacking team and also reduces his assist potential.
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I'd rather have Neto than Bailey as Neto will at least start and generally play full games. Can't be arsed waiting for line ups and be worried if Bailey starts even though I think he will, Villa just have plenty of options with most of them more senior/proven etc so it will take one bad game by Bailey and he's dropped. Plus Villa only have a couple of good games, Wolves fixtures are better till the time we'd wanna do the WC.

I have Bailey first on my bench as I have no use of that money and can see if he's playable, but will be happy in upgrading elsewhere and getting fodder for that spot if need be. But I guess having both is fine.
 
Moby said:
I think most of us are going by the evidence we saw in this Spurs team last season when Doherty turned into a haul machine and even Sess looked fairly aggressive (that Son goal against Liverpool for example). It depends on the players and the system he is playing as well. In this Spurs team Kane drops deep with the two inside forwards and two wingbacks going forward, that's their standard counter attacking route.

And the same happened vs Roma, you can check Perisic's heat map and how advanced he was. In previous preseason games also it hasn't changed, Kane is starting attacks from deep. And Perisic's quality on the ball is far superior to others. That's what Conte has said that he will take players on, create chances like a winger etc.

Either way, if the rest of your team is filled with stable safe picks like Trent, Robertson, Cancelo etc no harm in going for a high ceiling pick in one spot and it also gives you some Spurs coverage if you don't have Kane or Son which a lot wouldn't. Also pretty high EO, if he does bang first couple of games.
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Ofcourse, it's all assumptions at this point. We will just have to wait and see. I'm still not on board. He might haul against saints but I would still stay away.
 
bond19821982 said:
Ofcourse, it's all assumptions at this point. We will just have to wait and see. I'm still not on board. He might haul against saints but I would still stay away.
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Yeah definitely not as certain as Liv or City defs.

I have both him and James, and a bit uncertain on both of them for different reasons. Not sure who I'd remove if I had to remove one.
 
Moby said:
I'd rather have Neto than Bailey as Neto will at least start and generally play full games. Can't be arsed waiting for line ups and be worried if Bailey starts even though I think he will, Villa just have plenty of options with most of them more senior/proven etc so it will take one bad game by Bailey and he's dropped. Plus Villa only have a couple of good games, Wolves fixtures are better till the time we'd wanna do the WC.

I have Bailey first on my bench as I have no use of that money and can see if he's playable, but will be happy in upgrading elsewhere and getting fodder for that spot if need be. But I guess having both is fine.
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Neto won't play full games, he rarely plays 90 minutes. He's in that Martinelli kind of place where it doesn't matter how well he's playing, will get subbed, especially after that long injury he just had.

I agree he's more nailed than Bailey though and should at least start and I completely agree with that bolded bit and that's my worry of going Bailey.

And then, with the 5.0m price tag, it's hard to move anywhere...

Slippy has options and the fixtures quickly turn for them but I really don't know where to squeeze the extra 0.5 needed even if I wanted to... Any tips?

Ederson
TAA, Cancelo, James, Perisic
Salah, Diaz, Martinelli, Bailey
Haaland, Jesus

Subs: Gazzaniga, Andreas, Williams, Archer
 
Moby said:
Yeah definitely not as certain as Liv or City defs.

I have both him and James, and a bit uncertain on both of them for different reasons. Not sure who I'd remove if I had to remove one.
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James could be as good as Trent if injury free. One of the best options at 6. Trent, James and Cancelo would actually be better options than some 8.0 midfielders.
 
bond19821982 said:
James could be as good as Trent if injury free. One of the best options at 6. Trent, James and Cancelo would actually be better options than some 8.0 midfielders.
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Cheers I guess that answers the comparison I was putting up above.

Dirty Schwein said:
Neto won't play full games, he rarely plays 90 minutes. He's in that Martinelli kind of place where it doesn't matter how well he's playing, will get subbed, especially after that long injury he just had.

I agree he's more nailed than Bailey though and should at least start and I completely agree with that bolded bit and that's my worry of going Bailey.

And then, with the 5.0m price tag, it's hard to move anywhere...

Slippy has options and the fixtures quickly turn for them but I really don't know where to squeeze the extra 0.5 needed even if I wanted to... Any tips?

Ederson
TAA, Cancelo, James, Perisic
Salah, Diaz, Martinelli, Bailey
Haaland, Jesus

Subs: Gazzaniga, Andreas, Williams, Archer
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Will have to be Perisic down to Trippier or another 5m def.

Yeah anyway Bailey or Neto is one spot, nothing to sweat about. I just have a gut feeling that Bailey could be a bit deceiving because I've followed him for a while and he's pretty hot and cold. Neto kinda feels more consistent as a threat when on the pitch and I also think he's the most important guy for their attack whereas Villa obviously can still play through Coutinho, Watkins, Ings etc.
 
If Dumfries goes to Chelsea, that negates James as an option for me. No interest in paying 6 million for a Chelsea CB.

Cucurella linked there now too, which would also take Chilwell off the table.

Depending on who you go with first, there could be 3-4 transfers needed before the window shuts.
 
Really, I am just deciding on the likes of James now, “proper” team is pretty much decided.

BUT, the Darwin option i have saved is so tempting!

If he is the one that hauls at Fulham, you get Son at home to Southampton, de Bruyne at home to Bournemouth and don’t have to worry about the United fixture.

So tempting…
 
Maluco said:
If Dumfries goes to Chelsea, that negates James as an option for me. No interest in paying 6 million for a Chelsea CB.

Cucurella linked there now too, which would also take Chilwell off the table.

Depending on who you go with first, there could be 3-4 transfers needed before the window shuts.
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With late transfers happening I can see a lot of owners including me using the WC earlier than we need to cause a lot of teams are going to be different to what they are today.
 
Maluco said:
If Dumfries goes to Chelsea, that negates James as an option for me. No interest in paying 6 million for a Chelsea CB.

Cucurella linked there now too, which would also take Chilwell off the table.

Depending on who you go with first, there could be 3-4 transfers needed before the window shuts.
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Would be very surprising, and daft, if that happens, seeing as he is one of tuchels greatest attacking threats
 
CassiusClaymore said:
In fact my team looks so bland and template it's winding me up...

Ramsdale
TAA Robertson Cancelo Trippier
Salah Mount Martinelli Bailey
Kane Jesus

I guess safety of crowds and all that. Especially early doors.
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That's exactly my team. Main concerns are not having James at 40% and what to do if Bailey gets injured/loses his place.
 
Maluco said:
If Dumfries goes to Chelsea, that negates James as an option for me. No interest in paying 6 million for a Chelsea CB.

Cucurella linked there now too, which would also take Chilwell off the table.

Depending on who you go with first, there could be 3-4 transfers needed before the window shuts.
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The full backs are the best value but teams getting so much cover in those positions are causing issues.

kps88 said:
That's exactly my team. Main concerns are not having James at 40% and what to do if Bailey gets injured/loses his place.
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This is my worry with him too... Because there's no obvious swap at that price...
 
kps88 said:
That's exactly my team. Main concerns are not having James at 40% and what to do if Bailey gets injured/loses his place.
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Yeah the variation to this template is James instead of Robertson, Neto in for Bailey and Perisic in for Trippier. Obviously Haaland/Kane and your £8m mid is flexible as well.
 
I'm taking a punt on arsenal to start with, planning to make a gradual change to get one of Kane or son in eventually.

Mendy / Whoever
TAA / Robertson / Perisic / Walker / Willians
Saka / Martinelli / Sancho / Rashford / Bailey
Haaland / Jesus / Darwin
 
worldinmotion66 said:
I'm taking a punt on arsenal to start with, planning to make a gradual change to get one of Kane or son in eventually.

Mendy / Whoever
TAA / Robertson / Perisic / Walker / Willians
Saka / Martinelli / Sancho / Rashford / Bailey
Haaland / Jesus / Darwin
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If Palace win 1-0, your weekend is ruined!
 
I'm seeing more and more drafts without Diaz but he was in like every draft a week or so ago... Has something happened?
 
Uh I made a threemium and need to be talked out of it:

Raya

TAA
Diaz
Walker
Perisic

Baily
Salah
Neto

Kane
Jesus
Haalad

Thoughts? I mean at worst surely I can't fall behind with this coverage? Haha
 
VP89 said:
Uh I made a threemium and need to be talked out of it:

Raya

TAA
Diaz
Walker
Perisic

Baily
Salah
Neto

Kane
Jesus
Haalad

Thoughts? I mean at worst surely I can't fall behind with this coverage? Haha
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Up to you but for me, threemium is not worth it unless you expect those premium players to double digit every week.

You have to think of it as value per million. And the combinations of players.

Let's say you have Kane, Neto and Dias in your threemium team (23m)...

Is that more value than Jesus, Diaz and Cancelo in a two premium team (23m)?

In this scenario, Diaz and Cancelo will always have higher potential to outscore Neto and Dias. You'll need Kane to outscore Jesus (plus however many points Diaz and Cancelo get more than Neto and Dias every week) for it to be worth it... That's a lot of fecking pressure on your third premium player. He won't achieve that.

Premium players are expensive because they are consistent but their points per million mean they're only worth having if you plan to Captain them... You want two premiums to have two Captain options (due to fixtures)... The third premium is just not worth it in my opinion.
 
VP89 said:
Uh I made a threemium and need to be talked out of it:

Raya

TAA
Diaz
Walker
Perisic

Baily
Salah
Neto

Kane
Jesus
Haalad

Thoughts? I mean at worst surely I can't fall behind with this coverage? Haha
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Don't do it. It's not going to get you any returns over others and you are entirely dependent on 3 to get you high score every week.
 
worldinmotion66 said:
I'm taking a punt on arsenal to start with, planning to make a gradual change to get one of Kane or son in eventually.

Mendy / Whoever
TAA / Robertson / Perisic / Walker / Willians
Saka / Martinelli / Sancho / Rashford / Bailey
Haaland / Jesus / Darwin
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Palace away is one of the toughest away grounds .just saying !
 
The Threemium build does not seem worth the headache! Trying to pick the right Captain every week when each one of them could probably score a hattrick against any team home or away.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Up to you but for me, threemium is not worth it unless you expect those premium players to double digit every week.

You have to think of it as value per million. And the combinations of players.

Let's say you have Kane, Neto and Dias in your threemium team (23m)...

Is that more value than Jesus, Diaz and Cancelo in a two premium team (23m)?

In this scenario, Diaz and Cancelo will always have higher potential to outscore Neto and Dias. You'll need Kane to outscore Jesus (plus however many points Diaz and Cancelo get more than Neto and Dias every week) for it to be worth it... That's a lot of fecking pressure on your third premium player. He won't achieve that.

Premium players are expensive because they are consistent but their points per million mean they're only worth having if you plan to Captain them... You want two premiums to have two Captain options (due to fixtures)... The third premium is just not worth it in my opinion.
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bond19821982 said:
Don't do it. It's not going to get you any returns over others and you are entirely dependent on 3 to get you high score every week.
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Both of you are smart cookies. I appreciate it.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
In fact my team looks so bland and template it's winding me up...

Ramsdale
TAA Robertson Cancelo Trippier
Salah Mount Martinelli Bailey
Kane Jesus

I guess safety of crowds and all that. Especially early doors.
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I have Sancho and Neto over Mount and Bailey. Think going template early on is still a good play. Can't go wrong with it
 
VP89 said:
Uh I made a threemium and need to be talked out of it:

Raya

TAA
Diaz
Walker
Perisic

Baily
Salah
Neto

Kane
Jesus
Haalad

Thoughts? I mean at worst surely I can't fall behind with this coverage? Haha
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I think that team is absolutely fine, as a short term play.

I'd be looking at it as a bet that Kane will haul against Southampton, Salah will haul against Fulham/Palace and Haaland will haul against Bournemouth. All of which could easily happen and if it does you're happy out. Especially if you've captained two of the three.

But as others above have noted, value-wise that set-up simply won't win out over a longer run of games. So if I was starting with the threemium set-up it would be with an eye to moving away relatively quickly, most likely in GW3.
 
I see no way to improve this squad that easily apart from making it more flexible with more money in midfield and spending less on def. I think all these picks are justified.

Ramsdale ( best fixtures from all keepers and can get bonus and saves on top of clean sheets. Will any 4.5 rotation outscore him then please suggest a mighty combo?)
TAA (great fixtures a bit expensive even if likely worth it, but against Fulham can haul and see little reason to change him for Diaz/Sancho apart from not wanting double up)
Robertson (great fixtures possibly too expensive and risky double up, but worth it for first two and may outscore Diaz for cheaper cost just like TAA)
Cancelo (best defender in the best def from last year. Some tricky fixtures, but still worth it)
James (super attacking and cheap and fixtures are decent enough not to avoid for me. Only concern is his position)
Perisic (highest ceiling defender in the game in terms of ability to both score and get clean sheet. A bit risky with minutes, but can outscore most 8 million picks if he is starting every game)
Bailey (risky, but could perform like 6 or 6,5 mids if starting and it is not obvious from pre season that Coutinho is even better)
Martinelli (should start the season and Arsenal looking great in pre season and is going to perform like a top 6 side minimum this year)
Neto (amazing fixtures and is clearly undervalued and should be nailed)
Salah ( Ok maybe too expensive compared to Son, but most safe pick. Going without could have highest chance to get a top 10k rank gameweek 1, but also highest chance to have 5 million or more rank. Since I will play a bit safe there is no way I save money by removing him right now)
Pereira (best bench fodder in the game in my opinion)
Jesus (cheap for his potential with good fixtures and insane ownership. See no reason to doubt him even if Saka could be better)
Haaland/Kane ( this one is hard, but I do want one of these picks. Thinking Haaland due to fixtures right now, but yes I do fear Pep a bit)
4.5 bench fodder up front.
4.0 keeper fodder.
 
Current draft:

Henderson
TAA, Cancelo, Dalot
Salah, Lingard, Neto, Sancho
Martial, Kane, Jesus​

Subs: Leno, Zinchenko, N. Williams, Andreas

Any alternatives to the Lingard, Sancho and Martial trio? I'd like to keep Sancho but if he's not back in training this week, I'll take him out.
 
Maluco said:
If Palace win 1-0, your weekend is ruined!
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bond19821982 said:
Palace away is one of the toughest away grounds .just saying !
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Yeah I get that it's a huge risk. I'm just going with a gut feeling based on preseason and the fact that Arsenal seem ahead of other teams in terms of fitness and chemistry. That and Arsenal have a really nice start to the season, and it's difficult to really know who will start for City, or who will get points at Liverpool beyond Salah.
 
If bookies are right then Haaland is better than Kane.

Just we need to consider Pep roulette which always kills me.

For gameweek 1 odds that Haaland scores 1.57 and that is vs West Ham.
Odds for Kane is 1.72.

You can't bet against them though due to chance that someone gets benched etc so this is the odds if both play over 70 mins and start for 100%.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
If bookies are right then Haaland is better than Kane.

Just we need to consider Pep roulette which always kills me.

For gameweek 1 odds that Haaland scores 1.57 and that is vs West Ham.
Odds for Kane is 1.72.

You can't bet against them though due to chance that someone gets benched etc so this is the odds if both play over 70 mins and start for 100%.
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Could also just be bookies trying to hedge themselves against a big loss, hence a big number of people betting on him to score
 
Is it worth downgrading Diaz to Sancho so I can upgrade Bailey to Neto? Ugh... This Bailey/Neto thing is doing my nut.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Is it worth downgrading Diaz to Sancho so I can upgrade Bailey to Neto? Ugh... This Bailey/Neto thing is doing my nut.
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Me too. Im going with Neto just cos he's £5.5m and theres plenty of other midfielders at £5.5m that you could transfer in instead if it doesnt work out.
If you have Bailey at £5m and it doesnt work out its 2 transfers to sort out.
 
ROFLUTION said:
Could also just be bookies trying to hedge themselves against a big loss, hence a big number of people betting on him to score
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It is more they rate City as having a bigger chance to beat West ham than Spurs to win.

It feels the bookies are overrating City to me and underestimate Spurs or maybe me underestimating Southampton. You can bet for a West Ham win. I might, but City winning and losing money hurts extra.

Still Chelsea away vs Bournemouth at home makes it obvious who you want for gameweek 2 right if we assume both starts.
 
I do like Bailey as an option but he's very short term for and would require two FT's to reshuffle.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
For betting on players to score from bet365. Which do you think is a better bet? You are the experts here so I want opinions I am just making tiny bets haha. I only listed players I think are worth betting on in my opinion. Do not worry I will not get mad as I just bet tiny amounts for fun.

Robertson 11 times your bet.
Gabriel 11
Cancelo 11
Dias 11
James 10
Alonso 8
Perisic 3.75

Sancho 4
Bailey 4
Bruno G 5.50
Neto 3.70
KDB 2.75
Son 2.10
Saka 3
Martinelli 3
Rashford 3
Bowen 6
Salah 1.72
Haaland 1.57
Kane 1.72

Personally think both Robertson and James are quite likely to score even if they mostly get assists as they get in the box. Cancelo probably not worth it for 11 times I think even if maybe he can get 4 goals over a season.

Sancho for 4 I think is worth betting on over Rashford I genuinly think Sancho can score 10 goals this season.

Bowen at 6 is tempting as well even if City is hard.

Bruno G maybe underrated, but not sure. He could get 5-10 goals possibly still.

Bailey and Neto probably just right I think.

Perisic is great, but not betting at those odds feel 5 or 6 more realistic.

If I bet on Kane, Salah, Son or Haaland it would be on Salah or Son.
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There is a betting thread, you know?
 
Withnail said:
There is a betting thread, you know?
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Yes, but it is relevant to fantasy as well who you pick.

If you think Bruno G is fantastic you surely bet at those odds right or at least recommend it.

Maybe not the premiums as they are all expected to do well and are all like 40-60% chance to score so could go both way
 
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