Facts about football that shouldn't be true - but are

LA BOMBA said:
This is not the context. Juventus were stripped of their titles 2 years later and the Inter treble happened 6 years later.

You seem to not understand what the word "context" means.

Let me help you:

context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
noun: context; plural noun: contexts
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.

To make it even more clear to you, context refers to the setting that preceded the event not what happened years later.

Juve being stripped of the title 2 years later is completely irrelevant as this had nothing to do with the Cannavaro swap deal. It also didn't magically erase the traumatic memories of Inter fans having to watch Juve dominate with Cannavaro. Also there is not a single Juventus fan out there that doesn't count the titles that they won in 2005 and 2006 as actual titles, so stripping Juve of titles had zero effect on anything. The Juve fans celebrated them and still have fond memories of that period. Inter have traumatic memory of that period and would have preferred to have won those titles on the pitch, instead of being given a paper title which gets consistently ridiculed. Had they kept Cannavaro, they might have won more during that period. Instead they gave that player to their biggest rivals basically for free, and watched these rivals dominate.

Also Cannavaro lifted the WC as captain of Italy while being a Juventus player, which is a huge honor for the club and something very important for them.

I don't even know why I'm explaining all of this to you, as you probably didn't even watch football back then, otherwise you would know the actual context.




Moratti was a total dupe at the time, there were so many flops in those Inter teams. I still remember Andy van der Meyde, Vratislav Greško, Karagounis, Dalmat etc. getting considerable minutes at Inter and being terrible. Also they bought a bunch of random south American flops every season like Gonzalo Sorondo. Vieri was keeping that team alive and they had the luxury of seeing prime Adriano for a season and a half. But this was pretty much it.

I think that that banter era only really started with 5th of May. From 2001 to 2006 Inter had absolutely terrible seasons. I love how people now act like Juve losing those titles somehow redeems Inter from 2004-06, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter fans suffered during that time and it didn't look like they would win anything any time soon. If Calciopoli didn't happen, I don't even see how they win one title in the 00s. They were also terrible in many of their titles wins, even that Mourinho treble team barely won the league against a mediocre Roma team.
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This chap seems lovely, I hope he gets promoted soon, for more quality input like this.
 
matherto said:
His mum is Danish so that's how he qualifies, presumably somewhere in the family they're Norwegian on that side too hence being able to play for Norway.

No idea how he's not eligible to play for Ireland though, despite being English you'd expect there to be family history over there with a surname like that.

Proper strange.

Thomas Delaney and Martin Braithwaite both being English/Irish surnamed players playing for/having played for Denmark too. Delaney could play for the US through his grandad but also has Irish roots and Braithwaite has a Guyanese dad - presumably if you go far back enough you get some English heritage to explain the surname - although apparently it's an Old Norse name so maybe just goes back to Danish/Scandi/Viking/etc?
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How far back can the family history go for it to qualify someone to play for that national team? Is it just grandparents, or does it extend to great grandparents? I have an Irish surname, but the actual Irish heritage is in the great-great-grandparents branch of the family tree
 
I thought the post was quite informative! Just a bit OTT on the context aggro...
 
giorno said:
Mmm, honestly Italian football so fecking corrupt top to bottom that it's hard to tell who would have won what had things been on the up and up

My take is those two calciopoli titles would have gone to Milan(who did actually fininsh 2nd both seasons and were the best team in the country), Inter wins the '98 one(AKA juventus centenary or Where It All Started), Juventus probably actually win the title in '00, maybe '01 as well(less convinced but they did change the rules midway through the season to help Roma), Inter win in '02, while '03 and '04 the winners were just heads above the rest

Agree that calciopoli - which had it not been rushed, would also seen Inter punished - essentially was the main drive behind inter's subsequent 4 titles
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Unlike the fantastic beacon of light that is the premier league which has seemingly allowed a club to break the rules for 10 years + and has allowed two nation state and one Russian (with all sorts of shady ties) backed take overs in the last same time?

And don`t forget the most obvious one which should stick out to every single Utd supporter, our very own leveraged buy out. The premier league have allowed all of this to happen.
 
LA BOMBA said:
This is not the context. Juventus were stripped of their titles 2 years later and the Inter treble happened 6 years later.

You seem to not understand what the word "context" means.

Let me help you:

context
/ˈkɒntɛkst/
noun
noun: context; plural noun: contexts
the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.

To make it even more clear to you, context refers to the setting that preceded the event not what happened years later.

Juve being stripped of the title 2 years later is completely irrelevant as this had nothing to do with the Cannavaro swap deal. It also didn't magically erase the traumatic memories of Inter fans having to watch Juve dominate with Cannavaro. Also there is not a single Juventus fan out there that doesn't count the titles that they won in 2005 and 2006 as actual titles, so stripping Juve of titles had zero effect on anything. The Juve fans celebrated them and still have fond memories of that period. Inter have traumatic memory of that period and would have preferred to have won those titles on the pitch, instead of being given a paper title which gets consistently ridiculed. Had they kept Cannavaro, they might have won more during that period. Instead they gave that player to their biggest rivals basically for free, and watched these rivals dominate.

Also Cannavaro lifted the WC as captain of Italy while being a Juventus player, which is a huge honor for the club and something very important for them.

I don't even know why I'm explaining all of this to you, as you probably didn't even watch football back then, otherwise you would know the actual context.




Moratti was a total dupe at the time, there were so many flops in those Inter teams. I still remember Andy van der Meyde, Vratislav Greško, Karagounis, Dalmat etc. getting considerable minutes at Inter and being terrible. Also they bought a bunch of random south American flops every season like Gonzalo Sorondo. Vieri was keeping that team alive and they had the luxury of seeing prime Adriano for a season and a half. But this was pretty much it.

I think that that banter era only really started with 5th of May. From 2001 to 2006 Inter had absolutely terrible seasons. I love how people now act like Juve losing those titles somehow redeems Inter from 2004-06, but it doesn't change the fact that Inter fans suffered during that time and it didn't look like they would win anything any time soon. If Calciopoli didn't happen, I don't even see how they win one title in the 00s. They were also terrible in many of their titles wins, even that Mourinho treble team barely won the league against a mediocre Roma team.
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You really dropped La Bomba there with all that nonsense
 
Theo Walcott has scored more CL goals, than Ronaldo (R9). Well, one more, he score 15, Ronaldo scored 14.
 
Mourinho (in this prime) somewhat ironically won the Champions league with clubs he wasn't suppose to win it with (Porto, Inter) instead of the clubs he was suppose to win it with (Chelsea, Madrid)
 
Manchester City are still free to participate in the Premier League despite years of blatant cheating.
 
tentan said:
Mourinho (in this prime) somewhat ironically won the Champions league with clubs he wasn't suppose to win it with (Porto, Inter) instead of the clubs he was suppose to win it with (Chelsea, Madrid)
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Cementing his legacy as best at being the underdog.
 
The most expensive Spanish footballer of all time is Kepa Arrizabalaga.

Second is Morata (also to Chelsea).

Third is Cucurella (again, Chelsea).
 
Phil Neville almost played as many League games for Everton (242) as he did for United (263)
 
Gary Pallister has only 22 England caps, for reference Matthew Upson has 21.

The 2001-2002 Manchester United team that finished third scored more goals than the treble team did in 1998-1999 (87 vs 80), and won more matches (24 vs 22).
 
Half the country of England wanted Alexander Arnold to play in midfield for England.

facts by Declan Rice
 
After selling Kanchelskis, he scored more goals that season (95-96) for Everton than any United player did that season.
 
Ole'sgunnarwin said:
After selling Kanchelskis, he scored more goals that season (95-96) for Everton than any United player did that season.
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One of my favourites when I was a kid. He was dangerous enough anyway, but I think in the wing forward/wide forward era he'd have been even more of a menace. Definitely a 20 goal a season player there for my money if not 25.
 
Harry Kane has scored the most goals in Euro knockout games history.
 
Álvaro Morata is only 31. I read the article on BBC Sport yesterday that said that he’d gone to AC Milan and it said that he’s 31. I could have sworn that he was at least 34, I’m pretty sure he’s been around since 2010.
 
Tarrou said:
used to only be 8 or 16 teams in it though

I think it used to go straight from the groups to the semis
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I think it was 1996 when it was expanded to 16 teams and had the quarters and then semis. 2016 was the first edition with 24 teams.
 
Messi somewhat ironically failed to win any trophies with Argentina when he was in his prime and had arguably stronger squads (2006-2018). Yet somehow bizarrely won the World Cup and two Copa America titles with his weakest squads and out of his prime.
 
tentan said:
Messi somewhat ironically failed to win any trophies with Argentina when he was in his prime and had arguably stronger squads (2006-2018). Yet somehow bizarrely won the World Cup and two Copa America titles with his weakest squads and out of his prime.
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They made 3 finals straight and lost them all because Di Maria was injured in all 3. Then they played another 2 finals with Di Maria, and he scores the winner in the first, is MOTM in the other and they win both. This last one, they win because they won the previous two so play with less pressure.

Also this is the strongest Argentina squad since the early 00s. Better distribution of talent across the team, even without the attacking peaks of the '10-18 period
 
There exists very serious PSR rules for the majority of clubs that all must adhere to or risk fines/points deductions.

These rules do not affect teams in CFG because they are able to flagrantly subvert them utilising the CFG structure. They can move assets around at their leisure to avoid any issues. They can decide what they buy/sell to themselves. Other clubs can do this but none to the scale of CFG.

It is pure cheating and it is allowed to go on right in front of our faces and we are expected to just accept it.
 
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