Facts about football that shouldn't be true - but are

1.6 goals per game under Fergie is marginally higher that 1.56 under Moyes. Its 0.04 goals more in a Fergie team
That is not what the stats say, although I originally read it as that.

Yeah it just means on average it took him 1.6 games to score a goal under Fergie vs. 1.56 games under Moyes.

Or to do the inverse calculation, 0.64 goals per game (Moyes season) vs. 0.625 goals per game (Fergie season)

It's only marginally better, but my memory was always that he had a terrible season under Moyes. Turns out he just played less.

Wish I'd never brought it up now :lol:
 
Yeah it just means on average it took him 1.6 games to score a goal under Fergie vs. 1.56 games under Moyes.

Or to do the inverse calculation, 0.64 goals per game (Moyes season) vs. 0.625 goals per game (Fergie season)

It's only marginally better, but my memory was always that he had a terrible season under Moyes. Turns out he just played less.

Wish I'd never brought it up now :lol:

Complete misread on my part. That's an amazing stat.I would have said Moyes got him nowhere near his best.

Great stat in all fairness
 
I'm not verifying this but saw it this morning.

C.Ronaldo has 10 more goals (so far) since turning 30 than Rooney had in his entire career.
 
Still seems weird to me that a bloke called Matty Cash is playing for Poland. Maybe not weird, but I was surprised.

It shouldn't be in some ways because we obviously have lots of movement of people around the world on a greater basis than we once did. I suppose his Polish connections aren't obvious though. Anglo sounding and looking name and born in England.
I'm going to admit my amazement to this as well as there just seems to be a lot of players around that have very Anglophone names but are playing for teams like Chile, Ben Brereton (Diaz).

I know I shouldn't have any surprise it's just a 'thing' I've noticed!
 
Toni Kroos has won more FIFA Club World Cups than any club has (six wins, Real Madrid has five - Kroos was involved in all of them and won another with Bayern)

Very good, had to read it a couple of times to make sure it was logical (obviously is).
 
Football what ifs, that shouldn’t not be what ifs at all, that only when it isn’t not what it ought to be - but is anyway.
 
Yeah it just means on average it took him 1.6 games to score a goal under Fergie vs. 1.56 games under Moyes.

Or to do the inverse calculation, 0.64 goals per game (Moyes season) vs. 0.625 goals per game (Fergie season)

It's only marginally better, but my memory was always that he had a terrible season under Moyes. Turns out he just played less.

Wish I'd never brought it up now :lol:

I’m glad you posted this as there’s some strange myth on the Caf that RvP was a one season wonder at United.

Its been trotted out a few times when discussing the possibility of signing Kane based on his age.
 
I’m glad you posted this as there’s some strange myth on the Caf that RvP was a one season wonder at United.

Its been trotted out a few times when discussing the possibility of signing Kane based on his age.
That's a bit like saying Martial is having a wonderful season this year because he's scoring almost at 19/20-rate.
 
That's a bit like saying Martial is having a wonderful season this year because he's scoring almost at 19/20-rate.

Not really anything like it tbh. RvP played less games than his first season but nothing line the minutes Martial has given us thus far..

If Martial stays fit now though it’s still possible for him to deliver a positive return.
 
RVP was a game changer for us in his first season. The next season, he was inconsistent and not as good - he also played 17 games fewer in the league for us that season due to injuries. Not really bad, but clearly nowhere near as good as he was in the first season.
 
Ronaldo scores more hattricks in his second stint than his first. He also went 4 years playing in the Champions League without scoring.
He wasn’t really a goal scorer when he joined you. He was a one trick pony step over merchant who flattered to deceive. Took 5 seasons for him to start scoring consistently and then elevated his game at Madrid. There is a reason they went for Robben before Ronaldo. So these stats match up.
 
Danny Welbeck has in his last 3 seasons (including so far this season) 24 matches, 6 goals - 25 matches, 6 goals and 25 matches, 6 goals

Now that is being consistent.
 
Newcastle won the 2006 intertoto Cup, because they advanced further in the UEFA Cup than the other 10 co-winners.

The whole format for that thing was bonkers.

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The intertoto cup was a weird cup. Wasn’t it whoever was the best FairPlay team in the league?
 
The intertoto cup was a weird cup. Wasn’t it whoever was the best FairPlay team in the league?
In a way it was the precursor to the current Conference League. Which has a far more reasonable format, so UEFA learned something in the meantime...
 
We’ve never lost in the league at Old Trafford when leading at halve time. Seems like a mad stat that.
 
We’ve never lost in the league at Old Trafford when leading at halve time. Seems like a mad stat that.
In the Premier League, to be precise. It did happen in the old First Division.
 
Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes were both suspended for three league games each after being sent off in a pre season friendly in 2006.

Don't think I've ever heard of that happening before or since, but opposition fans still think United had preferential treatment from the authorities back then.
 
Balotelli only ever had one assist for Man City. Unfortunately for us, it was for “that” goal. :nervous:
 
This might have been mentioned before but cba reading the whole thread!

Man City are the only club to get the relegated (1938) the season after winning the league (1937).

In the season they were relegated they were the league's top scorers (80 goals) and had a positive goal difference (+3).
 
Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes were both suspended for three league games each after being sent off in a pre season friendly in 2006.

Don't think I've ever heard of that happening before or since, but opposition fans still think United had preferential treatment from the authorities back then.
This one still annoys me now
 
RVP was a game changer for us in his first season. The next season, he was inconsistent and not as good - he also played 17 games fewer in the league for us that season due to injuries. Not really bad, but clearly nowhere near as good as he was in the first season.

Sadly one of the things I most remember about RVP that season is him hitting a dip in the spring, coniciding with the loss to Madrid when he missed 5/6 chances over the 2 legs that he had been putting away with ease all season.
 
Something weird like that. Does anyone remember the Anglo Saxon cup?

Had to Google that.

There was also an Anglo Italian cup, Italy and England.

Newcastle won that.

The Texaco cup, Scotland/England/Ireland.

Newcastle won that twice.

The inter city fairs cup.

Newcastle also won that.

Their list of pointless trophies is astonishing.
 
Did the Intertoto Cup actually exist? Because it almost never got talked about by fans or clubs or journalists. Seemed more like a metaphysical concept that anything else.
 
In Fergie's reign during the PL, Man Utd only outspent other teams in just three out of 21 seasons.
 
In Fergie's reign during the PL, Man Utd only outspent other teams in just three out of 21 seasons.

It's one of those facts that may seem astonishing in the football world of today, but for those of us who lived through these times, it makes perfect sense. Firstly, Ferguson's formative years were the second half of the 80s. By the time of the PL's inaugural season, SAF had figured things out and United were ready to challenge for the title. So, it was more a case of a few final brush strokes than throwing money away to see how many holes we can plug.

And when the time finally came to breathe new life into the squad and reinvent the formula, we were blessed with one of the finest crops of local talents emerging through the ranks. This provided us with stability and allowed us, for about a decade, to watch from a safe distance the repercussions of the Bosman Ruling that completely changed the football market and saw the foreign players in England's top-flight competition becoming the majority by 2004 from numbering just 13 in 1992.

Toward the tail-end of Fergie's reign, United possessed enough fear factor, more so at OT, to get the job done. We were the team to beat. Add to this that in the period from Mourinho's sacking right up until Pep and Klopp came to the island, the overall quality of the league wasn't something to write home about.