That league cup incidentally was the beginning of the end of his Utd career
Facts about football that shouldn't be true - but are
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you missed Carragher hoofing Carrick in the guts, waist high, as he was about to score
you missed Carragher rugby tackle Owen as he was about to score
you missed the ref watching Song kicking seven shades out of Cole by the touch line and do nothing before Cole retaliated and the ref suddenly became a disciplinarian and sent Cole off
naturally, all at Anfailed
first time I remember it was early season United at Chelsea when he accused us of parking the bus. He’d only just arrived iirc
the number of chipped goals Schmeicel conceded was way out of proportion to his ability as a keeper
Had a fair amount of blunders too compared to how good he actually was
That's quite a fact. Feels like he has been retired for 6 years
From another thread, but Steve Bruce's 19 goals in all competitions in 1990-1991 seems ridiculous.
Most were on penalties.
Most were on penalties.
Before the pandemic stopped the premier league arsenal were the only unbeaten side in the premier league in 2020
Porto's first goal since after the lockdown was scored by Jesus Corona.
David GInola once played for Everton.
There are more countries afilliated to Fifa than to United Nations.
It's a hard shot to save, if you misjudge the trajectory you're done for, not to mention having sun in ye eye
Milan won the league in 93/94, having scored 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season, Piacenza, Udinese, and Atalanta got relegated, despite scoring 32, 35, and 35 goals, respectively.
Rashford was not born the last time Tony Hibbert scored a competitive goal.
He was conceived though so doesn't count.
Yeah, thaat's mental. Seen it mentioned before somewhere and it's almost hard to compute.
You start looking into it and while that one was the biggest example of such a thing there's been other low scoring Serie A champions too. 84/85 Verona (42), 85/86 Juventus (43), 86/87 Napoli (41), 87/88 Milan (43). All these were 30 games as opposed to 34 but 4 consecutive champions scoring around 1.4 goals seems really odd by today's standards. These lot were all 2nd or 3rd highest scorers which shows just how defensive mid 80s Italian football was in general.Must have been bad to watch.
James Milner won the PFA Young Player of the Year at Villa in the 09-10 season, but his PL debut came for Leeds almost 8 years earlier in november 2002 - and he played regular first team football all those years. He also has a record 46 caps for England U21.
He's still just 34 years old.
He's still just 34 years old.
Shows how awful the criteria for this award are, he had more than 200 league games at this point, it's ridiculous.
A bit like Eden Hazard, who won Young Player of the Year twice in France, then the regular POTY twice, before moving to Chelsea and winning the PL's YPOTY. He must have been ecstatic about that.
Agreed. Also makes you kinda wonder what went on in the PL around that time, I think Ashley Young won the same award the year before or after.
That thing is a bit of a farce anyway, if you have the likes of Cristiano or Bale winning it while being the best player in the league and clear-cut regular POTY.
Should be tied to 'breakout season' or something.
Should be tied to 'breakout season' or something.
I think they've got something called Rookie of the Year in the NHL.
Yes, would be easy to do.
2 criteria:
1. has to be under a certain age
2. can't have played more than a certain number of league games in one season in the past, say 20 or 25
I was Weirdly thinking about this the other day in relation to this season. There's been a fair few breakouts this season of either really young lads, or players finally making the step up to Premier league after loans.
Greenwood and Williams from ourselves.
Abraham, Mount and Timouri at Chelsea.
Saka and Nelson at Arsenal.
It would be nice for one of them to get some recognition, rather than someone that has played a full season before getting it.
In 1924–25, a new Swedish national league was created, Allsvenskan, but the Swedish Champions title wasn't awarded to the winners of that league until 1930–31. The Mästerskapet was a cup competition, which had always decided the formal Swedish champions since 1896. It wouldn’t be until 1931 when the league finally decided the formal champions of Sw. In 1998, AIK won the 1998 Allsvenskan title with 25 goals in 26 games.
Was Jose the AIK manager that year??
The side that got relegated actually managed 26 goals. Ten 1-1 draws, six 1-0 wins, three blank scores, and twice they managed to win 2-0
Luis Boa Morte was the assistant manager at Everton
12 years after drawing away to Bayern Munich and knocking Atlético Madrid out of Europe Bolton Wanderers are relegated to the 4th tier of English Football.
They had 8 0-0 draws or something mental, back in the days when Italian football still had only 2 points for a win.
This one is just me being a bit of weirdo and a matter of perception.
I knew that Rangers won 9 titles in a row at one point in Scotland, but I was never exactly sure when. More to the point I suppose it never really registered with me what that would mean for Celtic players.
Was just looking at the career stats of John Collins who was a good player in the PL in his later years, famously played for Monaco for a couple of seasons and as far as I know is held in high regard at Celtic and is a bit of an icon. He only won one trophy in 6 years there, the Scottish Cup. Just seems odd to me an in a way that someone good, and who is very possibly better than anyone they have now won so little. Suppose them winning everything these days might have warped my perception. I'd have guessed that he would have at least 2 each of league titles, Scottish FA cups and league cups.
Edit: And now to completely trash the things I assumed about Scottish football in that same sort of period, Celtic weren't even runners-up for a number of years. I always thought the Old Firm established total dominance, finishing 1-2 once Fergie came to United but nope. Celtic finishing 5th? Wtf?
Celtic:
88/89 - 3rd
89/90 - 5th
90/91 - 3rd
91/92 - 3rd
92/93 - 3rd
93/94 - 4th
94/95 - 4th
Aberdeen 5 times, Hearts and Motherwell once each were runners up those years.
I knew that Rangers won 9 titles in a row at one point in Scotland, but I was never exactly sure when. More to the point I suppose it never really registered with me what that would mean for Celtic players.
Was just looking at the career stats of John Collins who was a good player in the PL in his later years, famously played for Monaco for a couple of seasons and as far as I know is held in high regard at Celtic and is a bit of an icon. He only won one trophy in 6 years there, the Scottish Cup. Just seems odd to me an in a way that someone good, and who is very possibly better than anyone they have now won so little. Suppose them winning everything these days might have warped my perception. I'd have guessed that he would have at least 2 each of league titles, Scottish FA cups and league cups.
Edit: And now to completely trash the things I assumed about Scottish football in that same sort of period, Celtic weren't even runners-up for a number of years. I always thought the Old Firm established total dominance, finishing 1-2 once Fergie came to United but nope. Celtic finishing 5th? Wtf?
Celtic:
88/89 - 3rd
89/90 - 5th
90/91 - 3rd
91/92 - 3rd
92/93 - 3rd
93/94 - 4th
94/95 - 4th
Aberdeen 5 times, Hearts and Motherwell once each were runners up those years.
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Mike Dean was our ref in the league more times in 2019 (5), then he has ever been a ref in a Liverpool game in the premiership (4) and 2 of them have been this season vs Everton.
He’s been our ref 62 times in the premiership since 02. Wonder why we have had the misfortune of having him 62 times and Liverpool only 4 times
He’s been our ref 62 times in the premiership since 02. Wonder why we have had the misfortune of having him 62 times and Liverpool only 4 times
Alisson Becker has only lost one game at Anfield...
That was 27 months ago...
When he played for Roma.
That was 27 months ago...
When he played for Roma.
Alvin Martin once scored a hat-trick against three different goalkeepers
The defender was playing for West Ham against Newcastle in 1986. His first goal came against Martin Thomas, who was an actual keeper, but was forced off with injury. Martin then scored against defender Chris Hedworth, who also injured himself meaning Peter Beardsley was next. The Hammers won 8-1.
The defender was playing for West Ham against Newcastle in 1986. His first goal came against Martin Thomas, who was an actual keeper, but was forced off with injury. Martin then scored against defender Chris Hedworth, who also injured himself meaning Peter Beardsley was next. The Hammers won 8-1.
That will be because he’s a ‘Tranmere’ fan.
I was going to ask if Mane hasn't lost at Anfield, but then I remebered Atletico Madrid won their.
Fair point didn’t think about where he was from.
Shouldn’t really be an issue as you have VAR, also if they think he’s showing clear bias that that would have to be a sackable offence
It's hard to imagine now, but Scottish football was as good as the English league once upon a time. (Both technically and entertaining).