Isco and Eriksen? We are looking for a CM. Also Gündogan and Wilshere? To call them options at all is too much already.
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Isco and Eriksen? We are looking for a CM. Also Gündogan and Wilshere? To call them options at all is too much already.
He will not admit it because I believe the encouragement didn't come from him. as i said many times - IMO Fabregas does not want to leave Barca. Full stop.
Yeah, he'd turn down United to stay at Everton. Wise the feck up. He'd walk over broken glass to get to Old Trafford if we go for him. Then use his big afro to soak up the blood like a sponge.
To borrow your turn of phrase 'you're know shit about the situation'.
think about a context.
- plays for boyhood club
- lives in Barcelona where he grew up
- is a regular starter for them
- is on a good wages
- wins trophies
- pushed for a transfer to Barcelona
- loyal to Wenger
- seems to be happy there
- says the right things
I'm tired of this now.
Don't get me wrong. I actually do think we will sign him. He's about the only option left atm. Just was a general assumption that the player himself would want to leave as well.
@ the sponge thing. Just visualize that.You joke, but thats still the point.He'll still go if Barcelona accept a bid.
Any reliable journo following this story has said the same thing from day one, that utd are getting confidence from somewhere and that fabregas will join if he doesnt get assurances about his position in the team.
If Barca accept a bid, that gives fabregas his 'excuse' to go. Now, what makes this transfer different is that it isnt a case of us trying to get a player who wants to leave to join us which has now been screwed up by him saying he loves barca. This has always been a case of testing Barca's resolve. If we get a bid accepted that is barca telling Fabregas that he isnt seen in first team plans this year (whch is what he wants for WC). Even if this is accepted, it was never going to be easy to get fab, he may be open to a move to us but it wousld still be a difficult decision to make.
Personally i dont think these quotes have changed anything. Barca will have an amount they will accept for him. Unless Fab has (not saying he hasnt already) had assurances that he is invaluable to squad and will play in his preferred position, he still may be open to a move to us.
It's a little arrogant of us to treat this transfer as a case of the player wants to leave therefore we just need him to say it out loud. It was never the case with him, we will always be his second choice to barca.
He has just said so, so I reckon you could be on to a winner there.
However, his silence recently suggested to many of us that he was giving it some thought. Some of us were prepared to embrace this positivity.
To quote myself from yesterday .
Their are some complete and utter cnuts in this thread.
I wish Cesc would have spoken a long time ago, it'd have spared us some pages and embarrassment in this thread
Just clicked "What's new?", but read it as "What now?"
sure, why dont we never try and sign world class players?
Cant win with you lot. Damed if you do and damned if you dont
Exactly, Fellaini will move here within a day from Everton accepting a bid.
Thing is, I'd have been happy with this bid if we at least bid a plausible amount, but we didn't, we haven't even tried to test Barca's resolve (yet) by upping it to a decent figure.
Im going to start handing out infractions for people saying its embarrassing
if you really think thats embarrassing you lead a very sheltered life
if you really think thats embarrassing you lead a very sheltered life
His silence prior to now suggests otherwise. If it was never a consideration for he player why not quash the rumours earlier. It isn't in the players interest to say anything different to what he has just said. If you believe every word a footballer says then you are a mug.
I know this is a tricky question, but are you fecking thick?
A player doesn't have to want to leave to encourage interest from other parties, if it benefits him in some way. Do you think Barca, knowing United were interested and hearing that Fabregas might fancy it would just think "meh, feck it", or do you think they'd actively try and keep him to sign, and show commitment to him in the hope that it's returned? Have all these Barca players been briefing the media about how they want him to stay or hope he'll stay for a laugh? Did Martino say "it's up to him" for a laugh?
Whether Fabregas ever fancied a move is in doubt, but the notion that a player would use interest from another club, and foster the chance of him leaving, to strengthen his position at a current club isn't nearly as laughable as your naivety
Bit over the top.
Like I said, I'm pleased we bid for Fabregas but it just looks like, from the amount we bid, that the club were chancing their arm more than anything.
£25m and £30m is a lot of money.
The little shit needs to put down his bucket and spade and come to Manchester.
The only thing that matters in this whole 'saga' is Barca accepting a bid. Quotes from Fab mean nothing. What else was he going to say? Some people are mad.
Don't think it's OTT at all tbh. I have said much earlier in this thread that the bids verged on derisory and I stand by that. We didn't ever make Barca think seriously.
Ignore my last question, you are fecking stupid. He doesn't have to want to leave to allow his current club to believe he might, if they don't value him enough.
Have to agree. And that is a million times more embarrassing than anything or club has done this summer.
I'm not actually that bothered as I never expected to sign Fab, but I don't have that much confidence with the club signing midfielders to be honest. A week before the season starts (and our hardest start for a long time) and it's looking grim.
what do you expect? to call a press conference after each article in the press? Didn't he come back from his holiday only last week?
My point is: i have never believed this deal would be concluded. You did belive, maybe still do. I am not surprised, you are. We are both disappointed. And let's leave this as it is.
Cesc, stop doing this to us. Speak no more, you've said enough
I'm not actually that bothered as I never expected to sign Fab, but I don't have that much confidence with the club signing midfielders to be honest. A week before the season starts (and our hardest start for a long time) and it's looking grim.
Yeah it's so grim being a United fan, isn't it? might as well not even watch the actual football now. No shiny tranfers to look forward to.
That's not what he said.
For the people who think that there had to have been private encouragement from Cesc or his agent, coming out now and saying that he's happy, there have been no talks with United and he's never thought about leaving, clearly defies the objective because he hasn't been offered any new deal, and what he's just said makes it all the more unlikely that he will.
disagree. I think our bid was there or thereabouts, otherwise the manager wouldnt have come out and said "its up to Cesc now"
the fact that their players were coming out and making statements shows that they were concerned that he would go
I think this got closer than some of you are acknowledging but ultimately Cesc seems to have taken the decision to stay (at least for now)
Hard to disagree. Our closest challengers last season, with a new manager, have spent near enough £100 million to improve their squad.
I'm not actually that bothered as I never expected to sign Fab, but I don't have that much confidence with the club signing midfielders to be honest. A week before the season starts (and our hardest start for a long time) and it's looking grim.
While we, with three days to go until the Charity Shield, are still twiddling our thumbs.
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