We should snap their cocks off for £10m. Throw in Di Maria and we'll call it £35m.
Fabio Coentrao
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Yeah, I find Coentrao better. I think Coentrao is underrated defensively.
Already mentioned but yeah, £10million would be a steal.
£10 million is a no brainer, hence Madrd will most likely ask for double
I'd give 50m for them both.
Madrid would then tell you Di Maria is worth as much as Ozil and come back with 60.
I can't see them selling for 10m - Madrid will demand more - there were reports suggesting a fee closer to 20m.
He does struggle to maintain fitness though doesn't he?
I'd probably expect something in that region and it'd be worrying if he was coming in at close to 20 million to be the number one left back. If people are complaining about what Evra does defensively and positionally, you're going to be in for one hell of a bad shock if we start playing Coentrao as our regular LB.
Will depend on the price really. Anything even close to 20 million and I'd say we're a bit crazy and if we're willing to pay a price like that we should be going for Shaw who's younger and for me already as good as Coentrao (which people on here will say is bollocks).
If Moyes really wanted him he would have bought him already. Ogden reported back in January that Moyes "has doubts" over him and wasn't all that sure. Filipe Luis and Luke Shaw seem to be our main targets when it comes to full back, if the broadsheets are to be believed.
With Evra leaving, and the club have clearly leaked the news last night, we need two left backs, so perhaps Coentrao now comes into the equation?
With Evra leaving, and the club have clearly leaked the news last night, we need two left backs, so perhaps Coentrao now comes into the equation?
When did that happen? The club have leaked that Evra is going at the end of the season?
Both Ian Ladyman and Mark Ogden reported the same things last night in regards to Fletcher and Evra. Somebody at the club said something.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Patrice-Evra-David-Moyes-plans-overhaul.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...avid-Moyes-ahead-of-Manchester-City-game.html
Don't mean to be petty, but can we change the thread title to its original name?
Really? Has it not been 8 years now? That seems pretty settled to me
Really? Has it not been 8 years now? That seems pretty settled to me
Dr Evil is that you?
Hehe
I think it would be worth spending over 50m on them both. It would improve our left wing immensely and with a good midfielder to add to it, we would be in a strong position again for the league next season.
I dont know, spending over £50 million on a combination a team dont even use... Very questionable. Di Maria would obviously be worth a big fee, we could probably get another left back to link up with him
A year or two ago, he said he was going to leave for personal problems but was talked out of it by SAF. Things can change though, especially if his kids are getting to school age.
Good old story about Vidic's and Evra's wife, hehe.
Sign him up.
Well, if we don't end up signing Shaw.
Immense again tonight.
Well, if we don't end up signing Shaw.
Immense again tonight.
Yeah, he was very good tonight.
fecking tragic we didn't just sign him on a permanent deal at the beginning of last summer. Thank you Moyes for that one.
That wasn't Moyes' fault.
Mate its all his fault...
Well it is... There was a left back proven in the Champions League and on the international stage available all summer, at a good age and affordable price, and we didn't attempt to sign him til the last day of the window. He should've been the first and most obvious target identified for our shopping list.
It is a bit annoying when you put it that way.
He's brilliant. Can't believe he was and is being overlooked.
Exactly. Real failed to secure their backup LB target, and so they were unwilling to let Coentrao go till the very last minute in a final attempt to secure their preferred LB target.
World class. Watch him dominate for Portugal like he always does this summer.
It doesn't matter if we should have gone early for him - there was no way Real Madrid were going to give us Coentrao, without signing backup to Marcelo. And it happened to be that Real Madrid failed to sign their LB target. Again, it wasn't Moyes' fault that we didn't sign Coentrao.
Much better, safer and cheaper option than Shaw, but of course we will get Shaw.
They were willing to try desperately sign a replacement within hours of the deadline to let him leave. If we'd have put 15m on the table in the first week of the window chances are they'd have said thank you very much and worried about a replacement later. Or they'd have had all summer to find a replacement which would clear him to join us, rather than 2 hours.
Starting to doubt we'd get him now. Ancelotti would be very reluctant to let him leave, we're a less attractive prospect than we were last summer and we may actually face some competition for him this time. Don't know if he's still unhappy there either.
Was so discplined in these two games. You could almost forget that he is a great attacking LB.
And guys, Madrid didnt sign another LB beause they didnt have time, the time they would have had if we made a bid for him a lot earlier in the window. Dont know whos fault that is, so I cant blame moyes.
And guys, Madrid didnt sign another LB beause they didnt have time, the time they would have had if we made a bid for him a lot earlier in the window. Dont know whos fault that is, so I cant blame moyes.
His outlook on his future will probably change if he plays in a CL. Madrid and their manager's opinion of him will probably change if he plays in a CL final and they win.
I'm not sure what the exact details were, but I think Siqueira, who rejected them, was the LB they tried to sign at the very end of the transfer window. Say, for example, we did bid for him early on in the transfer window, what's to say that the outcome would be different? Real Madrid would still have to look for good backup to Marcelo. And that's why I don't think the blame attributed to Moyes on this issue can be justified given that he wanted to sign Baines at the start, which is fair enough.
Siqueira didn't reject Real he had been on stand by to go on loan to Real all summer as back up to Marcelo as they were trying to offload Coentrao but couldn't find a buyer. As i heard it he waited until the last day of the window before moving to benfica as he thought nothing was happening with Coentrao. Had we tried for Coentrao at almost any time earlier in the window we most likely would have got him.
Whoever's fault it was we fecked up on this one would have been a good singing for us, instead we fecked about all summer trying to low ball everton for baines.
Whoever's fault it was we fecked up on this one would have been a good singing for us, instead we fecked about all summer trying to low ball everton for baines.
Was nowhere near the optimal or most logical option. Coentrao - younger, cheaper, proven at the top level of world and European football, and actually available.
We were very close to signing him in the last hour of the window, it's almost certain we'd have got him had we given Madrid 2 months of the transfer window to sort something out.
Thanks for clearing that up.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't agree with it not being logical. Baines is one of the best left backs in the league, he's arguably the best left back in the league. The thing that goes against him is that he doesn't have the same skill-set as Evra or Coentrao - he's not as good attacking-wise. You can't blame Moyes for trying to sign a very good left back and someone he knows is reliable. The problem is that we didn't identify alternative targets to our main targets quick enough, and we took far too long to move away from our main targets. And for that, you can't attribute blame to the manager. There are others involved in this.
Baines is a far bigger threat going forward than either of those players, IMO. The only thing they probably have on him is pace.
Baines is a crossing machine, a bloody effective one, but Evra and Coentrao are much more rounded players with great flair and skillz up their sleeves.