At the end we really do not know.
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At the end we really do not know.
This has resurfaced again this morning. Is it a case of bored journalists looking to re-ignite some Utd rumours or has Jose now accepted that one or two of his "tier 1" targets won't be joining and its time to wrap this up before the season starts?
I don't really see the need unless it's as a RB.
I think Matic was always Jose's first choice. Still signing Fabinho (35m?) and maybe Aurier (20m) would mean massive squad straight and depth. A long with maybe Greizmann in January would see us right up there come May.
One can dream.
Bored journalists.
If Aurier rumours are true then I'd personally pay slightly more and opt for Fabinho. I don't think salaries will be that much different. This is due to his versatility of being able to play both right-back and in midfield.
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I'd rather have Fabinho who can play both DM and RB than Aurier. Fabinho can take over Matic's midfield position in 2 years anyways or, in case Fellaini leaves, we'll have enough numbers in midfield.
Sounds about right, but Escobar in La-la-land sounds properly fecked up though...
Problem is, we have a main RB (Valencia) with a new contract no less and a main DM (Matic) newly signed. And there is plenty of cover for both positions at the minute. TFM plays both positions and then Carrick, Young and Darmian also play at DM and RB respectively. Also Fabinho distinguished himself as a DM rather than a RB.
Now, I see no point in a 40-50m backup player at the minute and I'm pretty sure Fabinho wouldn't want to be a backup either. If he wants to be a RB I can see us going for him next summer to replace Valencia. Though Aurier is a specialist RB and cheaper. If he wants to be a DM, that position is filled for the next 2-3 years by which time Fabinho will have already got his move elsewhere.
My view is that the Fabinho ship had sailed for us.
Understood.
By that reasoning, we actually don't even need Aurier. I was just actually commenting if rumours are true and we're interested in Aurier then it would make more sense to purchase Fabinho due to his versatility.
It's like heaven
it's also useful that Fabinho can legally enter the country
if reports are true on Aurier of course
Cant see us signing another DM.
They are true, I believe he missed a CL game because of that reason
He was a vital player for Monaco last season. The only way they'd let him leave now is if they've already conceded the league to PSG. Which if there are no sanctions placed on transfers and PSG get more players in rather than shift players out to accommodate for the Neymar signing would make sense. Shift them while they have a high value rather than at the end of 2017-18 when they've finished 20 points behind.
Like most, he was my first choice, but now pointless after signing Matic. He'd likely cost more than Matic too, which would make things awkward in that position in terms of who will be first choice.
The very unreliable Don Balon are the ones running with this story.
Long-term could replace Matic or Valencia, but where would he fit in now as a starter? Would seem a bit redundant signing him at this point.
No chance this is happening.
First part is true. In my opinion we don't actually need Aurier, not right know anyway. The situation with Aurier is slightly different though, compared to Fabinho.
He's already a sub at his club, rather than a starter, and out of favour. The prospect of being a sub for a year and then taking over from Valencia would be an improvement on his current fortunes. Such would not be the case for Fabinho.
Very crucially though, we know Aurier is a RB and happy to be that. We don't know that is the case for Fabinho. If approached to be signed mainly as a RB, Fabinho might not be interested. And if he did come, he might well end up being not as good a RB as Aurier on top of being more expensive due to his elevated profile from playing DM. Many unknown variables in this move.
So I guess I disagree that it makes more sense to splash the alleged 50m for Fabinho due to his versatility if Aurier is available for half that (I'm purely going off the mentioned prices here) and it's a RB rather than a DM that we want to sign.
Can Sergi roberto play rb?
He can but he isn't great at it.
From what I've read Aurier used to play a bit of leftback as well, so he could see potential for playing in that position in the meantime, before taking over from Valencia in his preferred rightback later on.
Actually, Fabinho is supposedly wanting to play rightback at least this season, as he wants to play for Brazil in the upcoming World Cup and he sees a bigger chance of doing that at rightback rather than in the midfield. That's what some news are reporting anyway; no guarantee it's true.
He said that his favorite position was right back and he also thinks that it's where he has the better chance to play for Brazil. He also jokingly said that if he was selected as a midfielder, he would learn how to love it too.
With TFM going out on loan and Darmian being better at LB it would actually make a lot of sense to get Fabinho in. Especially as he can provide an option in midfield too. I'm worried about Carrick this season.
Was hopeful, but don't see us signing him now, would be a nice surprise if it happened however.
Don't see it happening. Like said, WC is around the corner so why would he leave a team where he's starting to come here to try and get into a team that he's not. Tony is nailed on RB and so are the midfield positions. I'm all for competition for places but can't see it tbh....
Apparently he's the one player Monaco actually want to keep
Fabinho is overrated as a midfielder. I'd fancy him at RB though. Either him or Aurier.
But I find it hard to accept we are in for him when a winger is the more pressing need. Heck, the LB position is currently a revolving door and we haven't addressed that yet.
But I find it hard to accept we are in for him when a winger is the more pressing need. Heck, the LB position is currently a revolving door and we haven't addressed that yet.
I didn't want Fabinho as a DM as I don't think he would have fit our system but I would think if we are in for him now it's as a WB and if that was the case then I'd be all for that as Valencias quality in the top area is rubbish. Fabinho can beat a man and get a decent ball in. He even has the ability to make something for himself.
See we are also linked with Roberto today who would also be a good addition as a WB with the added benefit of he can play in midfield. Similar to Fabinho of course. Aurier can play as a winger,RB,LB and CB so I could see why Jose would be interested especially if we go 3 at the back. Gives him another option, not to mention he is a far superior player to Valencia and if Fosu is going out on loan as I just read to Palace having a medical today then I would think we are for sure in for a RB.
See we are also linked with Roberto today who would also be a good addition as a WB with the added benefit of he can play in midfield. Similar to Fabinho of course. Aurier can play as a winger,RB,LB and CB so I could see why Jose would be interested especially if we go 3 at the back. Gives him another option, not to mention he is a far superior player to Valencia and if Fosu is going out on loan as I just read to Palace having a medical today then I would think we are for sure in for a RB.
As a fullback, I'd prefer Aurier, now that we have Matic. Cant sign him as a squad player for 50M
Is he? I found he was one of the key players at Monaco and their best midfielder by far whenever I've seen him play. He would have been perfect for us and I'd still love to buy him. Dont know how he plays as a RB though
Monaco were by and large the sum of their parts. Every player was key for them in his own way last season. Fabinho certainly has potential, but at the moment I don't think he is better than Herrera (whom I don't consider world class anyway) and Matic is a better DM than him. Only reason I wanted him was for his age and the potential.
I would be happy if we signed him as a RB as I think his attacking skills are more suited to that position than as a midfielder.
^^Agreed^^
This squad of ours has so many players that are versatile, can fill in here or fill in there, can 'do a job' as cover, and I see Fabinho as being another player in that mould, albeit a better standard than we currently have.
I'd certainly welcome him and hopefully say farewell to a couple of the 'Jack of all trades' that we currently have, but it doesn't seem realistic that he'd want to be a squad player waiting for his chance..
Aurier is a specialist RB, no doubt about that, and that's what we need, high calibre specialists.
Valencia is now 32, as fit as a flea, but he cannot go on forever.
This season will see another 60-70 games, and Aurier would be a superb back up to rotate with, and given the opportunity to make that role his own as Valencia winds down.
Fabinho storms off in a training session after altercation with Mbappe....
Theres a video fairly easy to find for those who wish to see it. Storming out of training seems to be the 'in' thing at the moment.
Mbappe came to training talking about how his dream transfer to United was finalized. Fabinho couldn't take it and stormed off.
Making a meal out of it seems to be the in thing. Every players have stories of things like that or worse.
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