These guys Pogba, Morrison, Tunnicliffe are the future of the club. feck Sneijder & co.
FA Youth Cup
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A bit harsh on Pogba IMO, who made a lot of challenges after half time and always looked to get involved going forwards. He definitely got a bit pissed off at the ref and made some silly fouls but he was still the pick of our midfielders.
The main problem was Tunnicliffe having a really poor game and contributing next to nothing defensively. He did make a few late surges but his lack of quality in front of goal summed up his night. He looked leggy and exhausted. Very out of character. Usually he puts in more work than the rest of his team-mates combined. Must be the long season finally getting to him.
Quite right Pogue. I thought Pogba did well winning the ball but wasn't getting a lot of help. He makes it all look so easy too... The boy is going to be a star I hope.
Young Ryan is aware of his less than stellar performance and baggy left foot if Twitter is anything by which to go.
Absolutely shite match report, in all respects
Sheffield United 2-2 Manchester United | FA Youth Cup final, first leg | Football | The Guardian
Sheffield United 2-2 Manchester United | FA Youth Cup final, first leg | Football | The Guardian
Both real shots he got on goal were on his left foot.
Which, for us un-Twittered people, would be nice if you decided to share...
Pulled a daisy-cutter wide with his right too. Just looked heavy-legged. Didn't help that he seemed to have the wrong studs in.
To be fair to him, it was an away game - and most of us seem ready to have him down as a no.6, whereas, I think Pogba and he are really competing for the notionla no.8 spot (in the first team if, we're looking that far ahead). He arrives late, most of the time when he's not the one starting the move.
Where's the wrong studs bit coming from? Genuine question, as I slipped out for a smoke a couple of times and may have missed Albiston & co. pointing that out. Unless you were at the ground...
[EDIT: And in a day or five, we shall have GirishII's video to look at, to judge where your 'right-footed daisy-cutter' stands, as well... Whether it's you, per usual, pulling something out of you arse in order to deflect attention from a nonesense statement you made, or actually a real net-bulging opportunity]
[EDIT: And in a day or five, we shall have GirishII's video to look at, to judge where your 'right-footed daisy-cutter' stands, as well... Whether it's you, per usual, pulling something out of you arse in order to deflect attention from a nonesense statement you made, or actually a real net-bulging opportunity]
This is the same woman who all but wrote off SAF a day or two ago, right? My word, she's going to great lengths to make sure the reading public (such as it were) gets a very different picture of the game than those watching the full game. As Shaq once said in a best-forgotten film, 'May the fleas of a thousand camles feast happily on your nether regions'
Didn't want to go all Twittery on you.... but here it is:
Rio wrote:
rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Man utd youth team drew 2 - 2 with Sheff utd,all to play for in the 2nd leg at old trafford! Good game,Tunnecliffe+morrison unlucky late on
Then Ryan:
@rioferdy5 "tunnicliffe" please big rio
I have a baggy left foot..and
Thanks for all the well done messages. Didn't think I was too good, but wait til old trafford! #performance!!
Didn't want to go all Twittery on you.... but here it is:
Rio wrote:
rioferdy5 Rio Ferdinand
Man utd youth team drew 2 - 2 with Sheff utd,all to play for in the 2nd leg at old trafford! Good game,Tunnecliffe+morrison unlucky late on
Then Ryan:
@rioferdy5 "tunnicliffe" please big rio
and
Thanks for all the well done messages. Didn't think I was too good, but wait til old trafford! #performance!!
Cheers horseless.
Just a self-deprecating tweet. Nothing to read into, all yous hyper-analysing mofos, move along...
Er... Right... If the studs comment means nothing to you, you need to watch the game again (and by watch, I mean watch events on the pitch not rely on commentators to explain what's happening to you)
A bit less smoking and a bit more attention in the next leg... Give it a go, eh?
Pogba was a little lazy at times and didn't seem to put the hard yards in.
We should still have won, even when slightly overrun we had the better chances.
We should still have won, even when slightly overrun we had the better chances.
That is some embarrassing 'journalism' right there.
The pitch conditions weren't great, everyone knows that, a lot of players had trouble with their footing - I'm just wondering if you have some magic vision that allows you to notice the material of someone's boot studs on a stream or your telly - or if you're just dreaming up an argument again because your original comment was nonsense?
Was a great game though. It don't matter what anyone says (journo). Away from home, you are not going to have it your own way at any level. We attacked, they attacked. I thought they were unlucky not to get one or two more. We played well in front of a big crowd for large parts. When you watch games at this level, there are lots of games that are just as good as watching a premiership game and we can play great football. I'm sure we'll see a more clinical performance on monday
You're obviously struggling with the phrase "seemed to have". Re-read my post, using a dictionary this time.
I've no idea why you feel the need to be a dick-head over a minor observation but this really isn't the forum for you if that's going to be your approach. Just a thought, like.
Can't see to much wrong with that really. Slew was excellent and Sheffield United probably shaded the game, overall.
We looked like a side with more talented individuals but they looked more of a team. We'll do them over at Old Trafford but credit where it's due for an excellent performance from the blades. I was surprised at how well they played.
Didn't get that at all, we were in control of the game and they had two breakaway long shots that went in, also a corner headed off the line, standard Premier league vs. lower division domination in my eyes when the other team had a bit of luck.
Also saying that the ground was booked out so that the Sheffield United fans could watch Man Utd youngsters was plain stupid, and not mentioning the handball for our goal was also a ridiculous oversight for a match report.
That's not how I saw it at all. They dominated us for long stretches of the game and Slew was a constant threat. The two teams actually looked very evenly matched. We did shade the closing exchanges though, which might have left a misleading overall impression.
It was only the obvious class of individuals like Pogba and Morrison that could have made you think it was teams from different leagues competing and you could make a case for Slew being the stand-out performer on the night.
I also don't think he handled the ball. He put a hand up, just in case, but it looked as though the ball hit the bar and not his hand. Even then, it would be a pen, not a goal. Very strange decision to award the goal. She got that bit spot on.
It was a clear handball, dunno whether you can find the reply but just look at the way the guy's arm moves, he had to have handled the ball. Slew may well have been the stand out performer, had a very good night but other than that they were workmanlike and little else.
I expect a fairly comfortable 3/4 - 0 come the second leg.
TBH, I thought people last night were being harsh on our young no.6 (someone I have a lot of hope for), and I know it wasn't his best game, but blaming him for the two chances he missed on his left was taking it over the top.
You threw in a disingenuous comment about his studs in an attempt to distract and to keep from owning up to reacting to a result by blaming one of our players, so I called you out on it. Glad at least that you're not trying to back your nonsense up and are instead backing away from it.
In summary, Tunnicliffe had two not all that clear-cut chances to score, he was arriving late, on a wet pitch and both landed on his weaker left. He was decent on the night. Not his best game, but not the reason we didn't win.
You're right, this is not a forum for multi-quote internet wars. Fair enough there, but in the same spirit, think a little while before you lay the blame at the door of one of our young 'uns on the back of a less than perfect result.
Louise Taylor is terrible. Unlike others who constantly moan and moan about journos, I just don't read anything she writes. She's full of hyperbole and pessimism about United and rarely offers anything insightful.
(I'm aware that I'm moaning about her now but it's the first time I've done so on the Caf!)
Agree with Fiskey that we did dominate the game, but our first was in no way a goal. A pen would have been the correct decision even though the handball was unintentional.
We dominated the first half, by the 2nd was SUs and they deserved the draw.
No one was blaming players, purely observations and looking at the player's twitters, they were a bit disappointed with how they played. Youth players are inconsistent and it's a learning curve. I'm sure they'll have learnt a lot from the game and will finish it off at OT.
No one was blaming players, purely observations and looking at the player's twitters, they were a bit disappointed with how they played. Youth players are inconsistent and it's a learning curve. I'm sure they'll have learnt a lot from the game and will finish it off at OT.
I'm not backing away from anything. He struggled to keep his footing on a number of occasions (more than most other players did IMO) hence my observation that he "seemed to have the wrong studs on". That wasn't disingenuous, nor was it trying to distract from anything.
As for his efforts on goal. He had at least three, one of which was on his right foot. The right-footed attempt you missed while you were smoking (giving you the benefit of the doubt here). He's usually a very clean and accurate striker of the ball, with either foot, hence I pointed out that his unusually weak efforts on goal "summed up his night". Once again, you took this simple observation and tried to make a pointlessly big deal about it.
Finally, I'm not trying to "blame" anyone for anything. I'm talking about a game of football I watched and discussing how well I think some of our players did or didn't play. Datura thought Pogba was just as anonymous as Tunicliffe in the second half but I disagreed and tried to explain why. I've made it clear how highly I rate Tunnicliffe many times in the past but I happen to think he put in a really poor performance and looked tired and out of sorts (which can happen to a young player who's worked as hard as he has, at the end of a long season)
I really couldn't give a toss if criticising a player's performance bothers you but I would appreciate it if you could address the points I made rather than immediately indulge in wildly inaccurate attempts to come up with my motivation for making them.
I only just got home, a word to the wise never try and blag your way, could and should have booked a hotel but like an idiot I didn't so spent the night up and awake on the mean streets of Sheffield!
Thought I was the only one that noticed! The day after we won 19 she did a piece basically saying but we won't win next year.
I thought feck me the candles have barely been blown out and the bollocks starts again
Nah, there's a fair few of "us". I know a lot of people who simply refuse to read her articles. I'm not just talking about recently either!
For anyone else who wants to know what CLK FPC's on about, the two articles she published on the 14th and 16th (ie. after we won the Prem this year) were titled:
"Another league title might be a step too far for Sir Alex Ferguson" and "Manchester United's record 19th title cannot hide need for rebuilding". I'm not going to link to them because I'm not going to help that tripe generate traffic.
It's a shame because, otherwise, the Guardian's football team is actually alright.
For anyone else who wants to know what CLK FPC's on about, the two articles she published on the 14th and 16th (ie. after we won the Prem this year) were titled:
"Another league title might be a step too far for Sir Alex Ferguson" and "Manchester United's record 19th title cannot hide need for rebuilding". I'm not going to link to them because I'm not going to help that tripe generate traffic.
It's a shame because, otherwise, the Guardian's football team is actually alright.
Fair enough, somewhat. I disagree, I thought all the players were slipping and a fair bit, not just young Ryan and it was down to the consitions. I should have made it clear why the wrong studs comment pissed me off, I instantly thought of Forlan's last game for us and the one thing I cannot fault Tunnicliffe on, from watching him play, is his attitude.
The right-footed daisy-cutter, to be fair to both you and me, I may well have missed. I'll be watching the highlights when uploaded, and if I think you're right, I will have no problem saying so. But a diasy-cutter, by definition is a very difficlut technique, not even Scholes can get them right, every time.
I agree that Pogba certainly had a better second-half than Tunnicliffe, both halves in fact. Also agree that young Ryan was not having his most influential game, and while he does strike the ball well, the chances he had were not bankers.
Alright, we both like the lad, all good then.
People getting pissy when someone makes a passing comment about he might have had the wrong studs in? Clowns.
Taylor's article is alright when she's commenting on events but her evaluation of Pogba and Tunnicliffe was way off. She's generally just a dour old cow when it comes to United.
Taylor's article is alright when she's commenting on events but her evaluation of Pogba and Tunnicliffe was way off. She's generally just a dour old cow when it comes to United.
There's a context, I said his chances were on his weaker left to which the response was 'wrong studs.' If you can't see that as a way of shifting an argument... bless.
Anyway, I've mentioned above why it pissed me off.
Or it's a casual observation based on how he seemed to be slipping over more frequently than everyone else?
If you're getting pissed off by it you're a head case regardless.
Radd, I think you misunderstood the post and have gone off on one.
Fair enough, I haven't re-read the posts from last night and you may well be right.
Dion, passion is a good thing. Make nice with it.
Sometimes, sometimes it makes you look like a raving lunatic who has gone mental about a comment that would barely limp one-legged into the innocuous category.
Might be issues with that second one, if so let me know
Part 2 unavailable .
Thanks GII
Thanks GII