FA Youth Cup

Drainy said:
I agree that everyone played well. However, I can't help but be a little disappointed with Morrison. I feel he was a little too selfish at times and lost his head just before half time when a decision went against him.
He's a talented player and needs to sort these kinds of issues out.

He's been maturing well in general, so maybe tonight was just a bit of a lapse.
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I didn't notice the bit before half time, I remember the challenge but I thought afterwards he just said he got the ball and talked to the ref. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Did lose the ball a bit more in the second half, but he was still a key part of the first three goals. Made things look ridiculously easy in the first half, the weights and angles on his passes are phenomenal, as is the way he can feint his way through a congested midfield.

Want to give Larnell Cole a mention too, not his favoured position on the wing I don't think but his footwork was excellent all match and was getting stuck in throughout, despite being dealt with strongly.
 
jeston said:
Crowd were great. Over 9000 there I heard.. How many Chelski fans do you think?
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About 30 :lol:

Aye, full of young 'uns which is good to see, future United fans having a blast watching future United players.

Really impressed with Tunnicliffe, he's one to look out for, just the midfielder we are missing at the moment
 
Ubik said:
I didn't notice the bit before half time, I remember the challenge but I thought afterwards he just said he got the ball and talked to the ref. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Did lose the ball a bit more in the second half, but he was still a key part of the first three goals. Made things look ridiculously easy in the first half, the weights and angles on his passes are phenomenal, as is the way he can feint his way through a congested midfield.

Want to give Larnell Cole a mention too, not his favoured position on the wing I don't think but his footwork was excellent all match and was getting stuck in throughout, despite being dealt with strongly.
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Its hard not to be a massive Morrison fan, he was as good (if not a class or two above) as anyone on the pitch, but in the second half he got too selfish and started making wrong decisions. Like you said, he gave the ball away a bit in the second by not releasing it as early has he has been doing recently.

The incident I was talking about was at the half time whistle, Tunnicliffe was trying to calm him down after the incident with the referee but Morrison was irate and was still making hand gestures to say he got the ball. Needs to learn to put bad decisions behind him, but its all part of the learning process.
 
Love watching pogba play, admire morrisons skills, tunnicliffe is so inspirational but...got to give special mention to cole. For a guy so small he is super on the ball. Thought he was pure class!
 
I just don't like van Velzen - he slows the movement down over and over again. Sure he did a good job prior to the 1-0 goal - but then he had squandered 2 huge chances simply because he is too slow - he can't get the shot away.

To be quite honest - I can't see how he fits into the United style of play
 
carpy said:
He had a very good spell in the game and it often seems to that way with him. He doesn't really impose himself on a game throughout the duration but he can be devastating the periods he does so. I don't think that's something creative players like him develop until considerably later in their careers though.
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McGinty and Tunnicliffe our best players imo - McGinty won so many tackles - and his cross for the 2-0 goal was superb.

Keane ironically enough actually didn't play that well - despite scoring 3 goals.

Pogba and Morrison were ok - but not breathtaking

Chelsea in general were awful - especially after the break
 
Quality performance. Our midfield tackled so well - especially in the second half. Tunnicliffe really drove us on, and was made up for Keane, getting his hat trick.

I liked the ref too - didn't take much shit at all.
 
lysglimt said:
I just don't like van Velzen - he slows the movement down over and over again. Sure he did a good job prior to the 1-0 goal - but then he had squandered 2 huge chances simply because he is too slow - he can't get the shot away.

To be quite honest - I can't see how he fits into the United style of play
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I can see why you'd think that. I think you should wait till next season before making a judgment. He only just turned 17 and its his first season in English football, he's still getting used to a new football culture.

He is technically sound, when he bulks up he may become a powerful runner and if he settles into united's playstyle he has some serious potential.

At 17 thats all you can ask for really, he is improving and he has good potential..
 
Really happy/proud the kids overturned the deficit, and won comfortably in the end. Stating the obvious here, but there are some real footballers in this team, a couple in midfield who have in their repertoire exactly what we need in the 1st team...shame it's too early for them.

Tunni was brilliant.

Also like someone else said, good to see all the youngsters in the crowd, getting the next generation indoctrinated :), especially with City now very visible.
 
championo said:
Does Will Keane's movement reminds anyone of Sheringham?
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yeah - mentioned this back in 2009
Mitch Conor said:
great to hear that Petrucci is on his way back, have missed watching him play.

Have to say, based on the Milk Cup games, I'm not sorry to see Ngoo leave - didn't look up to much. He had a couple of nice flicks, but his first touch was continuously poor and I just could see what he offered the team. Cofie and King look a lot better.

As for Keane, looks a very intelligent player. Reminds me a lot of Sheringham to be honest.
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Dates for this are, apparently, Friday May20th at Sheffield United and Wednesday May 25th at Old Trafford.
 
AlwynP said:
Quality performance. Our midfield tackled so well - especially in the second half. Tunnicliffe really drove us on, and was made up for Keane, getting his hat trick.

I liked the ref too - didn't take much shit at all.
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i agree about the ref, top class. With obvious exceptions, like the prat in the liverpool game, the refs at this level do a very good job, perhaps it shows us how much better PL refs would be if the pressure of assessors and camera's was taken away.
 
Im now thinking Tunniciffe could make his way to the first team before Pogba. Long way to go etc etc.
 
RedPhil1957 said:
i agree about the ref, top class. With obvious exceptions, like the prat in the liverpool game, the refs at this level do a very good job, perhaps it shows us how much better PL refs would be if the pressure of assessors and camera's was taken away.
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We also get poorer/fewer replays at this level, so we can't say "that was a blatant penalty you cnut" after seeing the sixth angle!
 
charleysurf said:
Im now thinking Tunniciffe could make his way to the first team before Pogba. Long way to go etc etc.
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I have a feeling that Keane, Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison will be taken on the pre-season tour with the first team next season and given a chance to impress.

Tunnicliffe is more mentally prepared for first team football than Pogba and Morrison. However, I feel he is slightly lacking in his variation in passing technique. His long range passing is great, and short passes with the inside of the foot are fine. Its the more intricate lofted short passes he needs to work on or he'll give the ball away a lot against better players.
 
RedPhil1957 said:
i agree about the ref, top class. With obvious exceptions, like the prat in the liverpool game, the refs at this level do a very good job, perhaps it shows us how much better PL refs would be if the pressure of assessors and camera's was taken away.
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Exactly the point Nev made during commentary. He said that PL refs are too scared to use common sense because of jobs-worth assessors who will mark them down for not refereeing according to the letter of the law. Which explains why they're all such fussy twats. Shite state of affairs when U-18 games are refereed better than games at the highest level but that's what's happening.
 
Drainy said:
I have a feeling that Keane, Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison will be taken on the pre-season tour with the first team next season and given a chance to impress.

Tunnicliffe is more mentally prepared for first team football than Pogba and Morrison. However, I feel he is slightly lacking in his variation in passing technique. His long range passing is great, and short passes with the inside of the foot are fine. Its the more intricate lofted short passes he needs to work on or he'll give the ball away a lot against better players.
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What the hell are they?
 
To be fair, it's a lot easier to ref Youth games because the pace of the game is far slower than any Premier League game.
 
Plus the players don't swear at the ref as much, which I was disappointed at.

Will the final be £3 as well?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
What the hell are they?
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Pogue Mahone said:
What the hell are they?
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That kind of short pass where you lift the ball up slightly to avoid an intercepting player.

Next time you watch Tunnicliffe look out for it. He tends to only do short passes with the inside of the foot.
He is a good passer along the ground (at short range, his long range passing is very good also), but his manipulation of the football at short distance is not quite there so sometimes his passes can get picked off by a clever interception.

Don't get me wrong, hes a good talent its just something I've noticed and I might be being hypercritical.
 
Twas a lovely through ball for the fourth he did, though, outside of the boot too.
 
Ubik said:
Twas a lovely through ball for the fourth he did, though, outside of the boot too.
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Good idea. Slightly overhit, but he was brilliant in that second half so I'll let him off ;)

He's a really good player and has a bright future, the point I was trying to make is that while he is the most mentally (and in fact physically) ready out of the three most promising youth team midfielders, he still has a way to go.

He does like to attack as well as break things up. I'm just concerned that if he doesn't develop his range of passing techniques he may end up giving the ball away a lot when he does attack, because he tends to pass along the ground and these passes are easier to intercept. This is especially true in the first team where he will have been scouted.
 
Took some time to familiar myself with the Sheffield United players - and what is perhaps the most impressive is that the team is made up of 100% british players - and that the majority are Sheffield-born.

The coach is John Pemberton for those of you who remember him from Palace, Sheffield United and Leeds either side of 1990

Key players:
George Long - very talented goalkeeper who the Blades believe will go on to be a new first-team goalkeeper. Already been on the bench 15 times or so on the first team - despite only being 17 years old. Tall lad who is an English U-18 international

Elliott Whitehouse - the captain and driving force in midfield. Short but very tenacious - scored quite a few goals but apparently also prone to receive yellow and red cards.

Jordan Slew - tall and pacy striker - 18 years old and already made his debut in the Championship (and scored a goal against Preston) - England U-19 international
 
Drainy said:
Good idea. Slightly overhit, but he was brilliant in that second half so I'll let him off ;)

He's a really good player and has a bright future, the point I was trying to make is that while he is the most mentally (and in fact physically) ready out of the three most promising youth team midfielders, he still has a way to go.

He does like to attack as well as break things up. I'm just concerned that if he doesn't develop his range of passing techniques he may end up giving the ball away a lot when he does attack, because he tends to pass along the ground and these passes are easier to intercept. This is especially true in the first team where he will have been scouted.
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I must admit I don't really understand the point either, and where do you get that Tunnicliffe is more ready mentally then the others?

No one really knows who is more ready until they play for the first team.
 
Tunncliffe looks a fairly ok-ish prospect from what I've seen of him. Pogba looks class though, easily the best prospect you have in your academy. I rate him much higher than Morrison.

Larnell Cole has impressed me as well, though I wonder whether his height will let him down at the very highest level. I like his tenacity.
 
Pogba has to cut the abundance of 'cute shit' out of his game before he gets to the first team. It's good he has that confidence, but at a first team level he'll lose possession constantly.
 
forevrared said:
Pogba has to cut the abundance of 'cute shit' out of his game before he gets to the first team. It's good he has that confidence, but at a first team level he'll lose possession constantly.
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If you are good enough it's ok. Maybe you want a robot rather then a talented kid? Personally if he's in an attacking area, it's ok. If it's in the final third then yes but not eveyone in the first team is an angel are they when it comes to cute shit or just being shit :)

I think your doing him a disservice. The idea he'd lose the ball in the first teamm all the times a joke. He's actually good enough to not only work with the ball but get away with it. At 17/18 he's coming on nicely.
 
Drainy said:
Good idea. Slightly overhit, but he was brilliant in that second half so I'll let him off ;)

He's a really good player and has a bright future, the point I was trying to make is that while he is the most mentally (and in fact physically) ready out of the three most promising youth team midfielders, he still has a way to go.

He does like to attack as well as break things up. I'm just concerned that if he doesn't develop his range of passing techniques he may end up giving the ball away a lot when he does attack, because he tends to pass along the ground and these passes are easier to intercept. This is especially true in the first team where he will have been scouted.
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Mate, i'm concerned about this post. You are worrying over nothing. Not everyones a simpleton who does the same thing again and again and again. It sounds to me some people want perfection, which is crazy standards. Even the 90's bunch weren't entirely perfect........it's hard to believe but there you go. What you describe is not a problem at all.
 
TheHorse'sMouth said:
Tunncliffe looks a fairly ok-ish prospect from what I've seen of him. Pogba looks class though, easily the best prospect you have in your academy. I rate him much higher than Morrison.

Larnell Cole has impressed me as well, though I wonder whether his height will let him down at the very highest level. I like his tenacity.
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Why so?
 
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