I have, arsenal in 2006, that fightback would have been thevstuff of myth if the first team had done it!!
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I have, arsenal in 2006, that fightback would have been thevstuff of myth if the first team had done it!!
Ravel you little star 
The kids show the adults how to do it. Great comeback!
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I'm not surprised the Scousers found some deluded lie to comfort themselves with, but I didn't see them calling our side a team of bruisers coming. We had Ra'vel, Lingard and Cole (who didn't have a great game but still looked better on the ball than Sterling) out there ffs. Pogba and Van Velzen might be big, but they're creators. If this game had been played in front of 8000 United fans, and if we had a proper striker on the pitch, we'd express ourselves much more than they did. We still came out winners, thanks to a winning mentality and the most gifted kid in English footie.
Unusually enough, I agree with the comments on RAWK. I thought Liverpool were the better team tbh. Pains me to say it but Sterling was the best player on the pitch, by a margin.
Pogba was very disappointing and what the feck was he thinking with that penalty? Pleased with Morrison's performance, mainly because of the maturity he showed when it was all kicking off. Not at his very best but that second goal was a cracker. Tunnicliffe, as ever, showed tremendous character and Johnstone was excellent.
All in all, a great result but you can see why the scousers might be happier with the performance.
Pogba was very disappointing and what the feck was he thinking with that penalty?
Pleased with Morrison's performance, mainly because of the maturity he showed when it was all kicking off. Not at his very best but that second goal was a cracker. Tunnicliffe, as ever, showed tremendous character and Johnstone was excellent. All in all, a great result but you can see why the scousers might be happier with the performance.
Thoughts on the game today;
Johnstone had one of his better games, but the game suited him I think. Decent but not impossible saves, lot of sweeping and not many high balls into the box for him to go and defend, when the games are played like that he can look excellent but for me Amos was the better keeper at the same age.
Defence are very good on an individual basis but somehow never seem to play as a collective and make silly positioning mistakes, also not too sure of Fornasier either, but perhaps they see him as the ideal foil for Thorpe who is more of a Rio or Evans style player.
Thought the midfield was poor in the first half and let the occasion and the high tempo Liverpool style get to them, was very disappointed with Tunnicliffe and Pogba first half and while Lingard and Cole tried hard, they suffered for not being natural wingers, where Liverpool made much better use of width which we struggled with. Morrison a class above as always and Tunnicliffe and Cole were excellent second half - made a huge difference that they turned it round cause up til then Liverpool were very good value for the lead.
van Velzen is not a striker and the lack of a focal point really made us struggle - just Liverpool's lack of composure and Morrison made the difference when it came to the crunch at the end.
Liverpools had some nice players, in particular Coady and Sterling who were excellent and Wisdom who was impressive at the back, but thought despite what they were claiming on RAWK that Liverpool had more physical players in general than us, although we do for once have some tall lads too and both teams played nice passing football at times.
Not a fan os Suso at all, looks a nice tidy player on the ball at youth level but seems very powderpuff to me. I think he will struggle at higher levels as he seemed to struggle when closed down and not given time in a way that Sterling and Morrison in particular did not, and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go the way of Pacheco.
Referee was alright, just a total jobsworth and didn't allow for the occasion or inexperience from everyone, with the first sending off really poor and Pogba's first yellow very soft too (as his second was technically correct as per FIFA directives; the law is an ass), but the lino far side was awful, like he didn't even know the laws of the game.
Johnstone had one of his better games, but the game suited him I think. Decent but not impossible saves, lot of sweeping and not many high balls into the box for him to go and defend, when the games are played like that he can look excellent but for me Amos was the better keeper at the same age.
Defence are very good on an individual basis but somehow never seem to play as a collective and make silly positioning mistakes, also not too sure of Fornasier either, but perhaps they see him as the ideal foil for Thorpe who is more of a Rio or Evans style player.
Thought the midfield was poor in the first half and let the occasion and the high tempo Liverpool style get to them, was very disappointed with Tunnicliffe and Pogba first half and while Lingard and Cole tried hard, they suffered for not being natural wingers, where Liverpool made much better use of width which we struggled with. Morrison a class above as always and Tunnicliffe and Cole were excellent second half - made a huge difference that they turned it round cause up til then Liverpool were very good value for the lead.
van Velzen is not a striker and the lack of a focal point really made us struggle - just Liverpool's lack of composure and Morrison made the difference when it came to the crunch at the end.
Liverpools had some nice players, in particular Coady and Sterling who were excellent and Wisdom who was impressive at the back, but thought despite what they were claiming on RAWK that Liverpool had more physical players in general than us, although we do for once have some tall lads too and both teams played nice passing football at times.
Not a fan os Suso at all, looks a nice tidy player on the ball at youth level but seems very powderpuff to me. I think he will struggle at higher levels as he seemed to struggle when closed down and not given time in a way that Sterling and Morrison in particular did not, and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go the way of Pacheco.
Referee was alright, just a total jobsworth and didn't allow for the occasion or inexperience from everyone, with the first sending off really poor and Pogba's first yellow very soft too (as his second was technically correct as per FIFA directives; the law is an ass), but the lino far side was awful, like he didn't even know the laws of the game.
I sort of agree. I think their players showed a lot of skills and talent, however I think we showed different characteristics i.e. a lot of mental strength.
Playing at Anfield is difficult let alone being 2-0 in front of 10,000. I think thats why we didn't see the skills from our lads in the first 60 mins. A lot of them looked nervous barring Tunnicliffe and Morrison.
The penalty restored the belief and we dominated from then on.
All in all a thoroughly enjoyable game. Two good sides. Haven't enjoyed a youth game so much for a while.
Unusually enough, I agree with the comments on RAWK. I thought Liverpool were the better team tbh. Pains me to say it but Sterling was the best player on the pitch, by a margin.
Pogba was very disappointing and what the feck was he thinking with that penalty?
All in all, a great result but you can see why the scousers might be happier with the performance.
Don't agree, the most talented player was clearly Morrison.
Sterling had some good moments and his close control was outstanding throughout, but Morrison had that and on top of that he helped control the game with his passing and movement.
Morrison always has a vision in his mind of whats going on around him and what to do, I didn't see that consistantly from Sterling.
On top of that Morrison was helping with defensive work. He was clearly the better player (although he is a bit older) IMO
I'm going to go ahead and say, Morrison will have a better pro career than Sterling. He was good, some of it skill, and some of it due to his physical attributes(pace)...but Morrison has great awareness, it's like the game slows down when he has the ball at feet.
I'm not judging them as players, just saying Sterling had a better game. He was almost unplayable in the first half. He's only 16 too. Annoyingly good.
I think that they are taking too much out of one game played at their ground. The official was overly harsh/fussy. Morrison got fouled before Pogbas first yellow, if he plays advantage (as Morrison wriggled free) then Pogba don't get booked. I think it was an even game but we showed a lot more character then they did. They were petulant, and lost their heads once we clawed ourselves back in the game.
I think Pogba was quiet but showed confidence with the penalty infront of that crowd. I think the early booking put him under a lot of unfair pressure. Tunnicliffe showed more heart then certain players. I like cole, very nimble and often has an end product.
I think also someone made a good point. We had no strikers. Though we are scoring from all areas of the pitch, we're missing Cofie and Keane and obviously Kings moved to the reserves. They are a big loss for us as no matter how well someone does, Cofie and Keane are goalscorers. They are a genuine threat and for me make better runs. Cofies been sensational at times and we miss that as well as Keanes intelligence
So overall, I think we showed character/bottle and were the better team. They have interesting player but for them to suggest they have more then we do based on that is laughable.
I think Pogba was quiet but showed confidence with the penalty infront of that crowd. I think the early booking put him under a lot of unfair pressure. Tunnicliffe showed more heart then certain players. I like cole, very nimble and often has an end product.
I think also someone made a good point. We had no strikers. Though we are scoring from all areas of the pitch, we're missing Cofie and Keane and obviously Kings moved to the reserves. They are a big loss for us as no matter how well someone does, Cofie and Keane are goalscorers. They are a genuine threat and for me make better runs. Cofies been sensational at times and we miss that as well as Keanes intelligence
So overall, I think we showed character/bottle and were the better team. They have interesting player but for them to suggest they have more then we do based on that is laughable.
You have to take into account that Sterling is only 16 while Morrison is 18.
2 years ahead in development is quite a lot at that age. Morrison has more experience also. Sterling is clearly very talented. If he develops physically over the next couple of years as well as honing his already good technical skills he could become a player.
There are too many variables at this level to be sure of who is and isn't going to make it on the basis of a few games.
Will we have Cofie or Keane for the Chelsea game??
I presume Pogba and Blackett are suspended for the round?
John Cofie (JohnCofie9) on Twitter
'Yes yes anfield come on bois let's make it happen , beat the scousers for me to be able to play chelsea please x'
Mr. Mujac (mrmujac) on Twitter
'Word from stands...W Keane still suffering complications from deadleg...hasn't trained in 3-4 weeks but back in gym...2-3 more weeks'
Morrison scored 2 goals and hardly put a foot wrong. :/
Liverpool had more of the ball in the first half, before we had chance to settle into the game. I think that the Keane was a little naive in dealing with him at first but grew into it and Sterling got a bit quieter.
Sterling reminds me a lot of Fabian Brandy. People forget how good Brandy was at that age. I hope for his sake he takes to senior football better than Brandy did (albeit he had a serious injury), but its going to be tough for him at his size.
Cheers! Cofie back would make a big difference.
Re some of the comments above...I thought Liverpool were clearly the better side first half and United the second. I think the lack of a 'real' striker was an issue although Van Velzen had a decent game and worked tirelessly.
The shape of Liverpool caused us problems as they often managed to isolate their two most creative and dangerous players against our full backs and they stretched us. Their full backs also attacked well. Sterling looks a definite talent, good feet, balance and strength and looks as impressive as Morrison did at the same age when he made his Youth Cup debut.
I think Coady is overrated, their 2 centre backs were very good, and their front three, but I thought they were merely workmanlike and a bit one paced in the centre of midfield.
The criticism of Fornasier was a bit odd, I thought he was actually our best defender on the day. Apparently Thorpe was carrying a back injury and only passed a fitness test in the morning so that might explain why he wasn't quite at the top of his game.
I thought Pogba was a disappointment. He started nervously and was quite wasteful in possession which is unlike him. Cole grew well into the game and showed great composure to take the penalty after all that had gone before, lovely run and cross for the second also.
Johnstone seems to be growing in confidence of late and is starting to show why he has been highly rated coming through the ranks. He is finally showing some signs of dominating his box and I thought his handling was very good and he kept us in it first half in particular.
Tunnicliffe was a real driving force, pulling us back into it through sheer bloody mindedness and drive. I think him and Pogba are not the best positionally when defending which can put pressure on the defence.
Morrison was fantastic all game, he rarely gave the ball away, committed players and his passing was accurate and creative. He worlked hard and showed the maturity in his game when he had the intelligence to stop himself reacting to the lunging tackle on him when others were losing their heads.
The shape of Liverpool caused us problems as they often managed to isolate their two most creative and dangerous players against our full backs and they stretched us. Their full backs also attacked well. Sterling looks a definite talent, good feet, balance and strength and looks as impressive as Morrison did at the same age when he made his Youth Cup debut.
I think Coady is overrated, their 2 centre backs were very good, and their front three, but I thought they were merely workmanlike and a bit one paced in the centre of midfield.
The criticism of Fornasier was a bit odd, I thought he was actually our best defender on the day. Apparently Thorpe was carrying a back injury and only passed a fitness test in the morning so that might explain why he wasn't quite at the top of his game.
I thought Pogba was a disappointment. He started nervously and was quite wasteful in possession which is unlike him. Cole grew well into the game and showed great composure to take the penalty after all that had gone before, lovely run and cross for the second also.
Johnstone seems to be growing in confidence of late and is starting to show why he has been highly rated coming through the ranks. He is finally showing some signs of dominating his box and I thought his handling was very good and he kept us in it first half in particular.
Tunnicliffe was a real driving force, pulling us back into it through sheer bloody mindedness and drive. I think him and Pogba are not the best positionally when defending which can put pressure on the defence.
Morrison was fantastic all game, he rarely gave the ball away, committed players and his passing was accurate and creative. He worlked hard and showed the maturity in his game when he had the intelligence to stop himself reacting to the lunging tackle on him when others were losing their heads.
Definitely, he's a great out ball when under pressure with his pace and strength and holds the ball up well and is also a threat for balls over the top.
Not necessarily. Will be banned for 1 and 3 games respectively, so it just depends when the semi-finals are scheduled.
Great match, best FA Youth Cup match I've seen since the Arsenal semi-final 2nd leg at Old Trafford in 2007 (I think). I was a little worried for us considering we lacked any real strikers in our squad, not helped either by going 2 goals down with only half an hour or so remaining but we showed amazing character to come back against a hostile crowd and away to talented opposition. Sterling was impressive, Suso not so much in my opinion.
As has been said, for us I also thought that Tunnicliffe and Ravel Morrison were quality. Tunnicliffe has a fantastic mentality, a real winner, but with that some very good quality on the ball. Excellent to see Morrison play so well and score the crucial goals, such a talented young local player is very difficult to find. It was also brilliant to see him kiss the United badge in front of the Kop!
As has been said, for us I also thought that Tunnicliffe and Ravel Morrison were quality. Tunnicliffe has a fantastic mentality, a real winner, but with that some very good quality on the ball. Excellent to see Morrison play so well and score the crucial goals, such a talented young local player is very difficult to find. It was also brilliant to see him kiss the United badge in front of the Kop!
Are them semis still two-legged?
Were you in the away end? John Aldridge is kicking up a stink on Twitter about Hillsborough songs, were there many/how loud?
I could hear YSB in full force on my stream.
Didn't hear Hillsborough/Heysel stuff.
Liverpool fans seem very, very confident that 3, 4 or 5 of their youth team will be top quality players. Can anyone comment? Don't really get to watch any youth stuff.
The RAWK stuff is nonsense. We weren't at our best for long spells but to try and paint is as a victory for brawn over skill is bollocks. Thorpe and Fornasier are relatively small compared to Wisdom and Sama (Wisdom in particular is more athlete than footballer), Keane, Cole and Lingard are all very slight, Morrison and Tunnicliffe are hardly big... only really big lads are Pogba and van Velzen, both of whom are technical players rather than really physical ones. Lot of bitterness on their side, unsurprisingly.
Sterling's obviously got something but didn't think he was all that today - started brightly, good ball for the first goal but faded quite badly and we dealt with him pretty comfortably second half. Certainly didn't think he was the best player on the park as some have said - Morrison and Tunnicliffe were better, for starters.
Sterling's obviously got something but didn't think he was all that today - started brightly, good ball for the first goal but faded quite badly and we dealt with him pretty comfortably second half. Certainly didn't think he was the best player on the park as some have said - Morrison and Tunnicliffe were better, for starters.
They just need to watch the winning goal again. If that isn't skill than what is?
Its all because they have a problem with the way that Tunnicliffe bossed them around in the second half. Silly bitter people.
The thing is, the only team doing the kicking was them. We got a red and a yellow for reacting to their over aggression.
Can anyone who was there today confirm if there was Hillsborough songs, and if so was it a small minority, or worse?
Will there be any extended highlights to download at some point?
I wasn't there but I don't see any reason why Aldridge would lie about it.
Lots of complaints about the ref - but in my opinion - he didn't do that much wrong. Pogba deserved both yellow - possibly Sama's red was harsh - but it can be justified.
If anything - more red should have been shown
no way. The ref booking pogba early set the tone for the game. He was too involved and is unaware of the advantage rule. A bit of common sense, talk to players and you avoid most of what happened. It wasn't a dirty game really. I just think the ref didn't understand the fixture. A sensible ref would talk to the captains, this guy was just interested in flashing the cards and ruining the game
I don't know about you, but I hear lots of echos. Was it Pálsson, Németh, Hammill, Insúa, Eccleston, Mavinga, San José, Dalla Valle or Darby?
One idiot on RAWK once suggested Sterling could be getting capped for England whilst playing for the Under-18s...
Excellent summary, as usual.
Can't see a thread on this.....
Congratulations to the youth team, beat Liverpool 3-2 at Anfield today after being 2 goals down, 2 goals for Ravel Morrison.
here are the goals
Video: The Great Comeback! Liverpool 2-3 ManUtd (FA Youth Cup Quarter-finals) : ManUtd 24, Manchester United videos, goals, results, news, wallpapers, avatars, graphics, Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Berbatov, Scholes, Alex Ferguson, Old Trafford
The semi's are two legged against Chelsea - does anyone know the dates?
Congratulations to the youth team, beat Liverpool 3-2 at Anfield today after being 2 goals down, 2 goals for Ravel Morrison.
here are the goals
Video: The Great Comeback! Liverpool 2-3 ManUtd (FA Youth Cup Quarter-finals) : ManUtd 24, Manchester United videos, goals, results, news, wallpapers, avatars, graphics, Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Berbatov, Scholes, Alex Ferguson, Old Trafford
The semi's are two legged against Chelsea - does anyone know the dates?