F1 2024 Season

Well no point getting up early for the gp tomorrow. Leclerc down in 5th.

The merc is a crap car. 0.8 off pole is a huge gap.
 
Couple of quality laps from Verstappen there, pulled it out of the bag. Ferrari certainly looked like the favourites going into Q3, but falling short somehow. Something definitely didn't click for Leclerc.

Commendable effort from Tsunoda beating the Astons and Hamilton. Mercedes are awful
 
You're predictable :lol:
Well we get some stupid dumbass comments on here about max. Obviously if you put him in the Mercedes this weekend he'd be on pole because he's max and defy the laws of physics.

Edit: probably more frustrated that the season is another bore fest again.
 
Well we get some stupid dumbass comments on here about max. Obviously if you put him in the Mercedes this weekend he'd be on pole because he's max and defy the laws of physics.

Edit: probably more frustrated that the season is another bore fest again.

Were you saying the same in the Mercedes era?

Btw agree this is boring and I haven't been watching
 
Have to be honest could not be bothered getting up early to see Max get pole.
But WTF are Mercedes doing, utter shite by them both.
They are a 1 hit wonder and that hit was there engine, everyone bar alpine has caught up, there aerodynamics was never worldbeating it was just enough during there era of dominance.
 
Just seen this posted about Hamilton.
simply put ,he is leaving the team, their focus is on the future not the past , so he won't get the quickest car now. Or any real knowledge of what new parts/ upgrades are in the making. Just a fact of life in any job when your notice goes in.

Interesting take and maybe true.
 
Were you saying the same in the Mercedes era?

Btw agree this is boring and I haven't been watching
Yes it was dull when bottas was Hamilton's teammate. But at least we had interteam battles between rosberg and Hamilton. Then for two seasons battle with vettel and Hamilton.

This is currently like watching shit on a stick.
 
Just seen this posted about Hamilton.
simply put ,he is leaving the team, their focus is on the future not the past , so he won't get the quickest car now. Or any real knowledge of what new parts/ upgrades are in the making. Just a fact of life in any job when your notice goes in.

Interesting take and maybe true.

That's actually very stupid. He is still their driver this year, If he is the better driver, they would rather maximise the potential of better driver and use him this year than give it to Russel and risk the use of development.

So many excuses for Hamilton, it's amazing, why some of you just can't maybe, for one second, think that the age is catching him and he is not so special that he used to be? It seems that people have used every single excuse in these past two years, except that, which is the only logical explanation, apart from average car obviously.

How is it possible that absolutely no one here suspects that 39 year old F1 driver can't be the same quality he was few years ago when he was few years younger?
 
Just seen this posted about Hamilton.
simply put ,he is leaving the team, their focus is on the future not the past , so he won't get the quickest car now. Or any real knowledge of what new parts/ upgrades are in the making. Just a fact of life in any job when your notice goes in.

Interesting take and maybe true.
Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.
 
I don’t think age is a problem, 39 is nothing , I doubt he is any less physically fit than the rest on in the grid, look at Alonso.
The car is the problem it is a dog and has been for 3 seasons now.
Simulator data and actual track data don’t match from what I have been reading.
 
During winter we were told this Mercedes was fast, they had solved problems, even during testing it looked fast, looked stable and yeah looked like it could be up there. Come actual race time and the car is a mess, something must have changed, the simulator could not be that wrong.
Setup for each track is just not being got right, on paper the Mercedes should be up challenging for podiums every race, something is fundamentally wrong somewhere and it’s not the drivers.
 
Areo never that good , but that one hit wonder won them 6 WC so not a bad one hit wonder.
Yes it was a hell of a hit, it was a hit that kept on giving , that engine dominated so much even Ferrari cheating couldn’t stop it, they were average before that technical brief and are bang average now, Renault shit the bed so bad with that engine that they still don’t know how to get it right, mclaren left Honda just as they hit gold. Ferrari got the engine right, just as they got the aero wrong for the start of this technical brief.
 
Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.

Yeah, just like last race when they tweaked they setups, when Hamilton said he set up his car for race, and said that's why he was slower in qualifying than Russel, who then beat him in the race marginally.
 
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Sergio Perez will start the Australian Grand Prix from P6 after receiving a three-place grid penalty for impeding Nico Hulkenberg
 
I don’t think age is a problem, 39 is nothing , I doubt he is any less physically fit than the rest on in the grid, look at Alonso.
The car is the problem it is a dog and has been for 3 seasons now.
Simulator data and actual track data don’t match from what I have been reading.

Quite agree with you and the very good post from dinostar77.
Mercedes has made a reasonable step forward in terms of the overall design of the car.
But as you both rightly say, it is the setup that they are struggling to fully understand.

You are right that there is a fundamental discrepancy between the simulator and actual track information. And for some reason it is affecting Hamilton most. George Russell is an excellent driver who is able to maximise the car.
Hopefully this is just an early season anomaly.
 
Just people who don't understand F1. Mercedes have a obvious problem between on track data and simulation/design data. That was highlighted yesterday in FP2, when they made drastic changes to Hamilton's car and went completely the wrong way. Whether they used packer on the underfloor to try to change some airflow, isn't known but whatever they did was the wrong direction.

They are using Russell's car and setup as a benchmark and deviating from that setup to run experiments with Hamilton's car (more experienced driver), to see if they can unlock the cars ability as their off track data says it has somewhere.

They have a problem with something off track, three seasons in and they haven't figured out what it is.

So the average armchair fan won't know about any of this and it will be that he's too old or some other bollocks.

All Mercedes have to do is give him a competitive car, but 3 seasons into these rules they can't manage that.
Excellent post , fully agree with you.
 
Quite agree with you and the very good post from dinostar77.
Mercedes has made a reasonable step forward in terms of the overall design of the car.
But as you both rightly say, it is the setup that they are struggling to fully understand.

You are right that there is a fundamental discrepancy between the simulator and actual track information. And for some reason it is affecting Hamilton most. George Russell is an excellent driver who is able to maximise the car.
Hopefully this is just an early season anomaly.
I think they are using Lewis to test set ups and leaving Russell.
 
Because if there was no cost cap they would be blown away in the distance by the other teams who have inflitely more resources than them.
Ah ye we all remember Toyota coming in with billions and dominating for a years... :wenger:
 
Might relegate F1 to the ''check results on the BBC'' category of sports I follow if Max wins comfortably tomorrow.