F1 2024 Season

So with the Sauber news about Bottas and Zhou leaving, and probably Bortoletto in, and if Colapinto goes to RB with Lawson to Red Bull...

We could have Antonelli, Lawson, Doohan, Colapinto, Bortolleto and Bearman all having rookie or near-rookie seasons in F1 next year. Which is pretty incredible and must be unprecedented.

And the other thing that means is there are going to be so many red flags and safety cars next year :lol:
 
hobbers said:
So with the Sauber news about Bottas and Zhou leaving, and probably Bortoletto in, and if Colapinto goes to RB with Lawson to Red Bull...

We could have Antonelli, Lawson, Doohan, Colapinto, Bortolleto and Bearman all having rookie or near-rookie seasons in F1 next year. Which is pretty incredible and must be unprecedented.

And the other thing that means is there are going to be so many red flags and safety cars next year :lol:
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Happy about that. Too many washed up drivers on the grid and we need some fresh blood.
 
Definitely a stark generational shift happening.

Exciting times potentially really, the grid has been mostly stable for the last few years so new blood coming in and hopefully tearing it up is good.
 
Zhou was easily the worst on the grid but feel kind of bad for Bottas, he was routinely outperforming the car. But its well deserved for the next generation, they look very good. Kind of a shame for Pourchaire and Drugovich though, just bad timing.


Hopefully Perez and Hulk are next.
 
SilentWitness said:
Happy about that. Too many washed up drivers on the grid and we need some fresh blood.
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Agreed, way too many drivers who are lucky to still be on the grid

It's a shame daddy owns that AM team, if AN builds them a rocket ship, will he be forced to be ruthless?
 
United Hobbit said:
Agreed, way too many drivers who are lucky to still be on the grid

It's a shame daddy owns that AM team, if AN builds them a rocket ship, will he be forced to be ruthless?
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Probably the best time to sell the team really, think even he knows his son is shit at this point.
 
I dont think Lance even wants to be in F1 any more.

Maybe that'll change if Newey gives them a winning car, but I think there's something to the talk of him being sent off to WEC, so that AM can try and get a big name in to future proof Alonso leaving.
 
Bottas new Mercedes reserve driver for next season. Smart appointment, especially if it does end up being too early for antonelli. Plus Mercedes know him very well.
 
dinostar77 said:
Bottas new Mercedes reserve driver for next season. Smart appointment, especially if it does end up being too early for antonelli. Plus Mercedes know him very well.
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Happy for him. And yeah I'm sure he ll be useful to them given his experience. And he gets to still be involved in F1 while having more time for all his outdoorsy side activities.
 
“We urge the FIA president to consider his own tone and language when talking to our member drivers, or indeed about them, whether in a public forum or otherwise. Further, our members are adults. They do not need to be given instructions by the media about matters as trivial as the wearing of jewellery or underpants.”
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I've been banging the drum on this pretty much since he opened his mouth in the capacity as FIA president:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...int-statement-fia-swearing-verstappen-leclerc

Glad they are speaking out. Next step is to boycott a sprint race as entire group if he doesn't feck off.
 
official statement: we are the gladiators

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mariachi-19 said:
The problem is that they’ll struggle to get rid of him due to the money from the Middle East.
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You're probably right. Hopefully this pushes him towards being more of an advocate for f1, f1 teams and drivers, instead of acting like the head teacher.


I've been critical of Max over the years, however the thought that such a talented and dedicated driver would publicly contemplate leaving before he has to is a sad indictment of the current state of affairs (not that I think he will in the near future).
 
Whatever happens in response to the GPDA statement - I hope they make Max do the community service but find a way for him to take the piss with it. Like feeding Qatari slave laborers or clean up the Kyalami circuit to prevent another city circuit from being added. Or speak with people with Tourettes.
 
Well, Verstappen had a demi-god wet race and just sealed his title, hopefully this will also put an end to the underlying hot fumes and feuds among the clans.
 
Busy day for F1 news...

  • Neils Wittich 'steps down' from his role at F1 race director, with some rumours saying he's been pushed and other sources saying he's another high ranking FIA official that has fallen out with Bin Sulayem.
  • Alpine have confirmed they'll use Mercedes engines and gear boxes next year - I would expect some team name change in line with sponsorship next year too.
  • Dan Fallows has left his role as Technical Director at Aston Martin. They say he'll remain within the group, but I imagine he'll just be seeing out a notice period. I would expect him to join a midfield team next season.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
In a historic first for Formula 1, all 10 teams – drivers, team principals, and their 2025 liveries – will converge under one roof for a spectacular collective season launch event at London’s The O2 next February.

https://f1i.com/news/524475-formula...HSGs0IkuAK0phNgfNQ_aem_3mR67A_GhfMxbq8Q8UeKpA
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Im happy they re at least doing it in England and not here. I like to think you Brits know how to make it a wee bit less cringey. Though it will obviously still be cringe.
 
The cheapest ticket is £58 for basically seeing a 2024 car in a 2025 livery. The proverbial milking of the cow is in full effect for the Netflix generation.
 
F-Red said:
The cheapest ticket is £58 for basically seeing a 2024 car in a 2025 livery. The proverbial milking of the cow is in full effect for the Netflix generation.
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But you know it ll be sold out regardless.
I keep going back to one of the most poignant quotes from the movie Gladiator:

"I think he knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. He will give them death, and they will love him for it. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate. It's the sand of the Colosseum. He'll bring them death, and they will call it entertainment."

In other words distract the masses through superficial means with food and entertainment to distract them from the societal or political problems that exist. People will feel special, and will gladly drop the money just to say they were there. It fits in with so much of today's world in my opinion.
 
Going to see 2025 liveries :lol:

At least 2026 might be interesting because the cars will look different.
 
F-Red said:
Busy day for F1 news...

  • Neils Wittich 'steps down' from his role at F1 race director, with some rumours saying he's been pushed and other sources saying he's another high ranking FIA official that has fallen out with Bin Sulayem.
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Christian Menath

@MSM_Christian
Niels Wittich told me he didn't step down from his role as #F1 race director. He was just fired and was told so today. Very strange things happening 3 races before the end of the season...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c4gvpn1exnvo
t is highly unusual for an F1 race director to be changed in the middle of a season, especially given there are just three races remaining.

The decision was not widely expected within F1, although some insiders had heard Wittich would be replaced at the end of the season.

A senior source said that Wittich, as a result of his relationship with FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem, had left earlier than expected.
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".........It seems, however, Wittich has not departed on good terms. Contacted by Motorsport-Magazin, Wittich succinctly said: "I have not resigned." The publication reports that Wittich was told just before the announcement that he was being fired.

What is known is that the FIA has moved swiftly as staff were not informed of the impending initial statement until shortly before its release......."
 
This sport became a joke in 2021 with the authorities fixing the last race for Netflix.

It has no credibility anymore and is just wrestling with a big engineering budget.

I'm amazed anyone still bothers watching it.
 
buchansleftleg said:
This sport became a joke in 2021 with the authorities fixing the last race for Netflix.

It has no credibility anymore and is just wrestling with a big engineering budget.

I'm amazed anyone still bothers watching it.
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cars going vroom is still fun to me, and i enjoy the competitive element wheel to wheel on the track, i just don’t care anymore about the standings, steward’s decisions or punishments, as it will clearly be tweaked in whatever way suits them. it’s like gladiator in the way that it’s set up to look like a sport, but at the end of the day, the emperor decides how it goes down.
 
The missus is doing a full binge of Drive to Survive to catch up and she's going through 2021 and giving me a running commentary and it's making me angry all over again. God help what'll happen when she gets to Abu Dhabi.

What an amazing and terrible season all at once.
 
F1 and Nestlé have announced a new multi-year partnership making KitKat the Official F1 Chocolate Bar.

The collab will launch in 2025, marking the 90th anniversary of KitKat and the 75th anniversary of F1.
 
Ahmer Baig said:
F1 and Nestlé have announced a new multi-year partnership making KitKat the Official F1 Chocolate Bar.

The collab will launch in 2025, marking the 90th anniversary of KitKat and the 75th anniversary of F1.
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Better not be the American version because that version is puke inducing
 
Ahmer Baig said:
With due apologies to Americans, but American chocolates are meh.
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That's mostly true but Giardellis is half decent and the world would be a lot more bare on the candy bar front if we didn't have Mars company. Lots of smaller chocolatiers that are good though. Otherwise only mainland European chocolate rocks. Those silly islands in between cant even make decent beer, let alone chocolate.
 
F1 Commission had its meeting with some interesting nuggets like the introduction of a cooling device in the cockpit for hot conditions:

On the technical side, they approved a range of technical changes for the 2025 season including the introduction of a driver cooling kit when heat hazard gets declared – following on from “encouraging” test results.

Also looks like the agreed on teams being able to spend more money on sustainability outside the cost cap.

Pessimist in me wonders how much the first was motivated to continue to make certain locations work despite driver complaints, and the cost cap exemption makes me wonder how tight that's written bc you know some team or teams will be looking to exploit that otherwise.
 
Formula 1 owner Liberty Media has announced its president and CEO Greg Maffei will leave his role by the end of 2024.
Maffei, who joined the American investment firm in 2005 and became its CEO in February 2006, will depart from Liberty Media after opting not to renew his expiring contract.

He will be replaced on an interim basis by Liberty Media’s chairman John Malone, and according to the company he will stay on as a senior advisor to help smoothen the management transition.

In his role Maffei has been a driving force behind the firm's acquisition of F1 in 2017, helping transform the series into a global and modern entertainment powerhouse.

Earlier this year Liberty also announced it would acquire MotoGP and add it to its wide range of entertainment properties.

Liberty has announced a series of changes to its famously complicated organization in recent months, as it looked to address stock declines and simplify share ownership. Maffei’s announcement Wednesday coincided with an agreement in which Charter Communications Inc. will acquire Liberty Broadband Corp. in an all-stock transaction that will unite two of Malone’s key holdings.

Liberty also said it plans to split off the Liberty Live Group into a separate public entity that would contain 69.6 million shares of Live Nation Entertainment Inc. and Quint, which offers ticket and hospitality packages to sports and entertainment events. Liberty Media will be an independent company that includes holdings in Formula 1 and MotoGP.


Maffei rubbished those rumours and Autosport understands his announced departure has nothing to do with a change of stance, with Liberty remaining steadfast that the series is not for sale.

Likewise, the US Department of Justice investigation into Liberty concerning its rejection of Andretti’s bid to join F1 is understood to have had no impact on Maffei’s exit.

Maffei confirmed during a quarterly earnings call in August that the company faced an official probe by the justice department's Antitrust Division over the legality of refusing entry to Michael Andretti's team.

The fact Maffei is set to operate in a senior advisor role to ease the management transition, with Liberty chairman John Malone stepping in on an interim basis, suggests no ill-will in the parting of ways.

It did, however, coincide with an announcement that Liberty Media was planning a split-off between the Liberty Live Group and the subsidiaries within.
 
Inevitable, but I wish they'd at least get serious about improving the racing at Monaco

 
Glad it's staying too. If for nothing else keeping it forces them to keep the cars capable of at least going around it, which has knock on effects on every other track.
 
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