F1 2022 Season

I don’t understand this constant necessity to make it out the Ferrari is the faster car. Over one lap, I think it is. But even today it would have been so close without the tow. And on race pace, it’s definitely not the clear faster car.

In my view both cars are extremely close and competitive. The team that wins the title will have the best driver, plus some luck (less reliability issues), plus some good strategy from their team. On all 3 of these, you’d say Max and RB have the advantage at the moment (RB reliability also questionable though, and as for Max vs Leclerc whilst I think Leclerc can rival for pure speed he’s yet to prove he can handle the “business end” of a title fight).
 
rpitroda said:
I don’t understand this constant necessity to make it out the Ferrari is the faster car. Over one lap, I think it is. But even today it would have been so close without the tow. And on race pace, it’s definitely not the clear faster car.

In my view both cars are extremely close and competitive. The team that wins the title will have the best driver, plus some luck (less reliability issues), plus some good strategy from their team. On all 3 of these, you’d say Max and RB have the advantage at the moment (RB reliability also questionable though, and as for Max vs Leclerc whilst I think Leclerc can rival for pure speed he’s yet to prove he can handle the “business end” of a title fight).
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The Ferrari still is the faster race pace car currently and can only see that increasing going forward. Reliability will be key, but I think both Verstappen and Leclerc will need to manage engine penalties before the end of the season.
 
F-Red said:
The Ferrari still is the faster race pace car currently and can only see that increasing going forward. Reliability will be key, but I think both Verstappen and Leclerc will need to manage engine penalties before the end of the season.
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Save for Austria where quite clearly it was, I’m not quite sure how you can say it’s faster in the race. And why do you see it increasing?
 
rpitroda said:
I don’t understand this constant necessity to make it out the Ferrari is the faster car. Over one lap, I think it is. But even today it would have been so close without the tow. And on race pace, it’s definitely not the clear faster car.

In my view both cars are extremely close and competitive. The team that wins the title will have the best driver, plus some luck (less reliability issues), plus some good strategy from their team. On all 3 of these, you’d say Max and RB have the advantage at the moment (RB reliability also questionable though, and as for Max vs Leclerc whilst I think Leclerc can rival for pure speed he’s yet to prove he can handle the “business end” of a title fight).
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The statistics show that the pole-sitter takes more than 40% of race wins. This information is based on the overall race wins since Formula 1 began in the 1940s. Out of the 1,066 completed Grand Prix races, the driver that has become the pole-sitter has won the race 450 times as of the 2022 Canadian Grand Prix.

I think this has skewed people's thoughts... This season has shown these cars can overtake and being on pole on most tracks isn't the be all and end all.
 
Not sure how Charles is so confident, I think RBR have the better Race pace. Austria was more of an exception than the rule. All weekend long, Ferrari have struggled with degree of Tyre Deg. However, if Ferraris can win this, would be immense. Hope Sainz does something special too from the back. He can be a fantastic driver on his day.
 
So Ive recently fell in love with the F1 due to Netflix's Drive to Survive but I have a really strange question.

Like who do people usually support? The team or the individual driver?

I've grown immensely fond of Pierre Gasly so I'll be rooting for him to finish in the top half even though he's with a mediocre team.
 
DatIrishFella said:
So Ive recently fell in love with the F1 due to Netflix's Drive to Survive but I have a really strange question.

Like who do people usually support? The team or the individual driver?

I've grown immensely fond of Pierre Gasly so I'll be rooting for him to finish in the top half even though he's with a mediocre team.
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It's a combination of both. For example, I have been a Ferrari fan since I started watching F1 in 98. But when Schumi went to Mercedes, I obviously wanted him to do well. I definitely will support a Ferrari driver, whoever it is. Some people chose to support drivers from their countries. But when it comes to a Ferrari driver winning WDC or Ferrari winning the championship. I'd chose the Driver winning WDC. I think that has more allure to it. So right now if given the chance I'd take LeClerc for WDC and Redbull for constructors champion and I think most fans would agree with the same for their driver in their supported team.
 
rpitroda said:
Save for Austria where quite clearly it was, I’m not quite sure how you can say it’s faster in the race. And why do you see it increasing?
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I've got a hunch that I think Ferrari will have stronger engine updates throughout the second half of the season that will improve performance.
 
F-Red said:
I've got a hunch that I think Ferrari will have stronger engine updates throughout the second half of the season that will improve performance.
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Engines are frozen, the only updates they can do is for reliability. Though, It would be interesting to see what sort of development Ferrari can continue doing as I believe RB spent a lot more of their budget early on whereas Ferrari didn't update the car at all for the first 4 races. So they might have more money to throw around.

But then again Ferrari have had to rebuild their cars more times than RB. So I guess what I'm saying is. We will have to see :wenger:
 
rpitroda said:
I don’t understand this constant necessity to make it out the Ferrari is the faster car. Over one lap, I think it is. But even today it would have been so close without the tow. And on race pace, it’s definitely not the clear faster car.

In my view both cars are extremely close and competitive. The team that wins the title will have the best driver, plus some luck (less reliability issues), plus some good strategy from their team. On all 3 of these, you’d say Max and RB have the advantage at the moment (RB reliability also questionable though, and as for Max vs Leclerc whilst I think Leclerc can rival for pure speed he’s yet to prove he can handle the “business end” of a title fight).
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Its track by track specific. Ferrari are great on corners but RedBull have better stright line speed. Overall the RedBull is the fastest car and best car this season.

Its going to be another victory for max as he will overtake leclerc on the long straight with drs and that will be that.
 
DatIrishFella said:
So Ive recently fell in love with the F1 due to Netflix's Drive to Survive but I have a really strange question.

Like who do people usually support? The team or the individual driver?

I've grown immensely fond of Pierre Gasly so I'll be rooting for him to finish in the top half even though he's with a mediocre team.
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I generally just watch wanting a close Championship fight. I’ve watched for 25 years now, and I’ve found the last decade or so the only people I have wanted to do we’ll see the more nostalgic drivers: Michael Schumacher’s 2nd career, Kimi and Alonso. Probably approaching that stage with Vettel and Hamilton soon to be honest. I generally only really begin to support once they’re no longer at the front. Though last year I think after Brazil I supported anybody up against Max as I thought his driving was dangerous. He hasn’t been that bad this year though
 
rpitroda said:
I don’t understand this constant necessity to make it out the Ferrari is the faster car. Over one lap, I think it is. But even today it would have been so close without the tow. And on race pace, it’s definitely not the clear faster car.

In my view both cars are extremely close and competitive. The team that wins the title will have the best driver, plus some luck (less reliability issues), plus some good strategy from their team. On all 3 of these, you’d say Max and RB have the advantage at the moment (RB reliability also questionable though, and as for Max vs Leclerc whilst I think Leclerc can rival for pure speed he’s yet to prove he can handle the “business end” of a title fight).
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Ferrari are the faster car over one lap but on races, I'd say it's 50-50. They've been switching with RB across tracks. It's reliability where they have struggled more it seems
 
dinostar77 said:
Its track by track specific. Ferrari are great on corners but RedBull have better stright line speed. Overall the RedBull is the fastest car and best car this season.

Its going to be another victory for max as he will overtake leclerc on the long straight with drs and that will be that.
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All depends if Leclerc can get a good start and get out of DRS early. If he can do that I'm not sure he will catch.
 
DatIrishFella said:
So Ive recently fell in love with the F1 due to Netflix's Drive to Survive but I have a really strange question.

Like who do people usually support? The team or the individual driver?

I've grown immensely fond of Pierre Gasly so I'll be rooting for him to finish in the top half even though he's with a mediocre team.
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Good question.
Lewis for me, he got me watching F1, after I stopped watching, for many years, after I saw Senna crash.
After Lewis, nobody really, just want to see good racing.
Iam not a Max fan, but dont dislike him, fully admit he is the one to beat now.
Like to see Daniel Ricc do well, but he is not. Norris is good, Russell will be a WC along with Leclerc, but Max will be around for a long time and will break some of Lewis's records
 
DatIrishFella said:
So Ive recently fell in love with the F1 due to Netflix's Drive to Survive but I have a really strange question.

Like who do people usually support? The team or the individual driver?

I've grown immensely fond of Pierre Gasly so I'll be rooting for him to finish in the top half even though he's with a mediocre team.
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I think different people will give you different answers obviously. Always loved Ferrari from the time I started watching F1. Then wih Schumi retiring, Red Bull and Merc dominance, I sort of lost interest. But now that Ferrari have sorta come back into the fold, it's been good fun. With the exception of 1-2 drivers, the quality on show for each race is incredible. The machines they design where fractions of a second count is also incredible innovation.
 
antsmithmk said:
The statistics show that the pole-sitter takes more than 40% of race wins. This information is based on the overall race wins since Formula 1 began in the 1940s. Out of the 1,066 completed Grand Prix races, the driver that has become the pole-sitter has won the race 450 times as of the 2022 Canadian Grand Prix.

I think this has skewed people's thoughts... This season has shown these cars can overtake and being on pole on most tracks isn't the be all and end all.
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Yeah, perhaps. I just think the way the regulations are now, it’s very possible to have a fast car in quali and not in the race. With Parc Ferme, with tyre and fuel regs, DRS, and many other things, the car on pole may well not be the faster race car anymore whereas certainly in the past, it very likely was.
 
Anyone been to some race this year? I've tried to book one of Monza or Hungaroring, but it's almost full and the prices are ridiculous.
 
Great start by Magnusson.

Ferrari will find it hard to stay ahead of RB once DRS opens it seems :(. But Ferrari has real nice pace through s3.
 
People need to calm down here. Max isn't past Charles yet and could be a while if it happens.
 
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