Thats awful and needs to be stamped out. No excuses for "thats how we talk here".
F1 2022 Season
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
I was quite surprised t how blatant it was. Unsure what action has been taken?
Agree that Norris has been best of the rest, but i think with having a proven driver in Ricciardo fail, McLaren will wonder whether Norris is genuinely good enough to build the team around or is it luck that the car fits him perfectly at the moment.
Blows my mind that this actually still goes on. Especially in big corporations.
For feck sake, identity these people and kick them the feck out.
AM should be suspended until they have taken clear and definitive action. The responsibility lies with them.
Well if you read the article that's exactly what AM did. Says they have a zero tolerance policy and the people in question no longer work there.
Ah fair enough I only skimmed it, fair play.
BBC F1
"..Ricciardo's future has been the subject of speculation since McLaren Racing chief executive Zak Brown said last month that his time with the team had not met expectations.
McLaren have been exploring their options in case Ricciardo left the team at the end of the season..."
They have considered Williams driver Alex Albon and Alpine reserve Oscar Piastri, and Aston Martin's Sebastian Vettel has also been linked to the team...."
Comment: Not sure who out of those three i'd want to partner lando. Giving the young lad Piastri a chance probably the best call. I think riccardo can say what he wants, mclaren will axe him end of this season. Hes been awful this year.
"..Ricciardo's future has been the subject of speculation since McLaren Racing chief executive Zak Brown said last month that his time with the team had not met expectations.
McLaren have been exploring their options in case Ricciardo left the team at the end of the season..."
They have considered Williams driver Alex Albon and Alpine reserve Oscar Piastri, and Aston Martin's Sebastian Vettel has also been linked to the team...."
Comment: Not sure who out of those three i'd want to partner lando. Giving the young lad Piastri a chance probably the best call. I think riccardo can say what he wants, mclaren will axe him end of this season. Hes been awful this year.
Yep I think his days are numbered. This year it feels like he's not been as bad as last year, when he was really awful. The car being pretty shit this season has helped masked how bad he has been as it's not been Lando challenging in the top 5 like he was last year most races with Danny Ric struggling to make the top 10. I don't see him remaining in F1.
The issue with Ricciardo is the money he is on and his performances do not reflect that. I can't see Vettel, Albon, Palou doing much better against Norris either. Piastri is exciting but doubt Alpine would let him go
McLaren is a strange car this year, can't really judge it's pace on the grid. Somewhere just behind Alpine maybe but then has races when it's around Alfa and AT.
Vettel would be great for Norris. He can have a laugh but he’s so mature and an excellent head for Norris to prosper from.
I think with the way Mclaren are going by focusing their car development around Norris it would be hard for 2nd driver no matter whom it is.
Not help by their car development which seems stagnant this year if not move backward.
Not help by their car development which seems stagnant this year if not move backward.
He’s legitimately one of the best drivers in F1. Not being able to perform in a car that has been focused on the other driver is not unexpected. He won’t struggle to find a gig, he’ll just need to take a pay cut. Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at Alfa.
The ridiculous thing is that McLaren were better when they had both Lando and Sainz working as a unit.
Ferrari looking strong already this weekend. 10 grid penalty already for Sainz on Sunday due to a third control electronics component fitted, depending on how qualifying goes Ferrari may elect to take a further hit with some other components.
They are strong in one lap but then the tire degradation is faster than RB.
? their tyre deg was miles better in austria.
previously they ran a much higher downforce setup, but since they’ve put the lower downforce wing on the car it seems a lot better.
I think this has swung it back to ferrari which seems the better race car.
French GP Free Practise
Think the times and analysis did show that Ferrari had higher deg than RB on race sim. And generally their pace advantage on race sim was not there today like it was for quali sim. We should have a great chance at pole with Leclerc though.
I was expecting both Merc's to be closer to RB and Ferrari than they are.
Sainz 10 place grid drop ,should Ferrari opt to stagger any further power unit changes through the rest of the weekend - an approach taken with Charles Leclerc in Canada - and take a fresh engine, turbocharger, MGU-K or MGU-K, then it would drop Sainz to the back of the grid,, this means he is not winning this weekend.
Looks like a battle between Max and Leclerc with Russell and Lewis in a fight for 3rd.
Sainz 10 place grid drop ,should Ferrari opt to stagger any further power unit changes through the rest of the weekend - an approach taken with Charles Leclerc in Canada - and take a fresh engine, turbocharger, MGU-K or MGU-K, then it would drop Sainz to the back of the grid,, this means he is not winning this weekend.
Looks like a battle between Max and Leclerc with Russell and Lewis in a fight for 3rd.
Austria circuit was degrading predominantly the rear tires , unlike the Paul Ricard circuit which erodes mainly the front. Check the last laptimes which was simulation of race pace. Of course they might be sandbagging but I doubt it.
I agree, give him the new engine, back of the grid, see what he can do, he will still get in the points.
I dont see the sense in doing it in another race and taking yet another grid drop.
Red Bull boss Christian Horner says it's too late to agree new rules for 2023 that change the design of the floor of current Formula 1 cars in a bid to tackle 'porpoising'.
In response to concerns about the severity of the oscillation being experienced by some cars, and its physical effects on the drivers, the FIA has moved to make changes based on safety requirements.
A technical directive introducing a new Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric (AOC) will be introduced for the Belgian Grand Prix, and there there will also be new restrictions on 'flexible' floors.
But further changes planned for 2023 have been attacked by Horner who says teams are already too far along in their plans for next season to incorporate a whole new set of requirements.
“It’s not so much the directive that’s an issue, I think the problem is what they’re looking at as a remedy for next year," he told Sky Sports F1 on Friday at Circuit Paul Ricard.
“The directive is neither here nor there for us," he insisted. Instead, Horner was more annoyed by the fact that the FIA seemed to be responding to pressure from one team in particular, which one can guess is likely Mercedes.
"I think there’s an awful lot of lobbying to change regulations significantly for next year," he said. “A certain team can run its car lower and benefit from that concept. It’s a very late point in the year to be doing it."
Full read is here.
Horner says it's too late to change 2023 floor rules (f1i.com)
In response to concerns about the severity of the oscillation being experienced by some cars, and its physical effects on the drivers, the FIA has moved to make changes based on safety requirements.
A technical directive introducing a new Aerodynamic Oscillation Metric (AOC) will be introduced for the Belgian Grand Prix, and there there will also be new restrictions on 'flexible' floors.
But further changes planned for 2023 have been attacked by Horner who says teams are already too far along in their plans for next season to incorporate a whole new set of requirements.
“It’s not so much the directive that’s an issue, I think the problem is what they’re looking at as a remedy for next year," he told Sky Sports F1 on Friday at Circuit Paul Ricard.
“The directive is neither here nor there for us," he insisted. Instead, Horner was more annoyed by the fact that the FIA seemed to be responding to pressure from one team in particular, which one can guess is likely Mercedes.
"I think there’s an awful lot of lobbying to change regulations significantly for next year," he said. “A certain team can run its car lower and benefit from that concept. It’s a very late point in the year to be doing it."
Full read is here.
Horner says it's too late to change 2023 floor rules (f1i.com)
Am I right in saying the flexi floors limit the porpoising and bouncing effects. Why not just make them legal next year.
It's more the opposite I believe. The more flex = more porpoising, but better performance.
Stiffen it up and they dont seal as well but don't bounce as much. Hence why they've all been trying to stiffen the floors to stop it.
That might be true if both cars could run a whole race.
Looks like verstappen will drive off into the distance tomorrow unless leclerc can keep him honest. The RB looks far too quick even for the ferraris
Usual horner moaning.
Their race pace was stunning yesterday, but Leclerc might still pull off pole, and try and see if the tyre deg comes in for the RedBull while following him around.
French GP FP3 timesheet
Max looks again the one to beat.
Let's see what qualifying brings.
Let's see what qualifying brings.
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Track temp is going to play a part, 33 air temp and 57 track temp.
Going to be touch on the rubber.
Going to be touch on the rubber.
Mecedes have changed Lewis's wing atter FP3 , he was missing straight-line speed
Will we see much from Sainz today ? Starting at the back of the grid for the race, dont see him pushing much even in FP1.
Paul Ricard is such a cool track.
One of my favourite tracks.
Any made a valid point about using him to tow Leclerc in Q3
Hate this track purely because the blue stripes are distracting and the camera angles are terrible.
I saw that also, never thought about it, but would Max need the tow to get Pole.
They may want to save tyres for the race.
Yeah the camera angles are annoying me. And the stripes also do my head in. Decent racing circuit though.
Yeah not sure.
Red Bull top speed is insane.
Mercedes well off the pace