F1 2022 Season

Gaps are invisible, 5th place just 0,063 seconds behind, wasn't it?
 
Wonder if we'll see some towing between the top three teams, or a straight out fight for all 6.
 
Why are they all so close today ? RBR turned down the engines ?

just shows how much they were reliant on that 10% wind tunnel time. as soon as they lost that they were catapulted back into the pack.
 
Why are they all so close today ? RBR turned down the engines ?
It seems the thinner air is making the aerodynamics less effective, and cars/drivers with better mechanic grip/ability to drive smoothly are coming out on top.
 
This looks like fun track being so slippery, it could be interesting tomorrow and I reckon we'll see few accidents.
 
Verstappen is incredible. Mercedes again quicker than Ferraris, I reckon the difference during the race will be even bigger.
 
Strategic throwing of pole by Merc? apparently you want to be 3rd here off the grid ;)
 
Hamilton incredibly quick considering his car was broken.

Also Russel was almost in pole if not for that mistake. At least this way he can kick Max out of the race.
 
Development budgets are about circa 10m. You were saying that 1.8m isn't that much in the context of an entire budget, in the context of development it's a significant part of the budget.

This is from skysports:

Following a review in 2020, the cost cap was set at $145m for 2021, $140m for 2022 and $135m for 2023-2025, though the figures were based on a 21-race season and an inflation uplift was applied earlier this season.

The budget cap applies to money spent on car developments and performance, but not to some big-ticket items, such as drivers' salaries, marketing costs, logistics, travel and legal costs



Also from another site:

What comes under the F1 cost cap?
Any expenditure related to car – but not engines – performance is relevant for the cost cap. This includes:

  • All parts on the car (from the steering wheel to the wheel nuts)
  • All the elements needed to run the car
  • Most of the team personnel
  • Garage equipment
  • Spares
  • Transport costs
  • Everything in between
The biggest area of focus is car development costs, with teams having a weigh up what is developed, how much is spent on each part which is manufactured and how many of the parts are needed and can be afforded without overspending.


https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-cost-cap-what-is-it-how-it-works/10379799/amp/
 
So because someone has a different opinion to you, you put them on ignore? You Merc fans are unreal.

I remember when there wasn't this bitterness between fans of different teams of this sport, god I wish those days were back now. Between here and reddit it's just a cesspool, nowhere to just discuss F1 without it turning in to the childish crap that's goes on here :rolleyes:
Not at all. Just posted at a bad time and took it out on @phelans shorts. Not really Merc fan either. Thats just too easy a sterotype. If i was i wouldnt have praised max's driving this season or be so disappointed in ferrari for not bringing a challenge to max. Just want some integrity back in the sport. It seems to be going down the wrong route.
 
Say what ???

red bull were caught in the most serious of sporting breaches since lance armstrong and were punished by the fia a couple of days ago. they lost 10% performance as the fia decided that’s how much their cheating gained them, and now they’re just as fast as everyone else.
 
Not the most exciting of tracks, but I love the stadium feel and loud crowd that Mexico City brings to the table. I hope they manage to keep their spot in the future.
 
Not at all. Just posted at a bad time and took it out on @phelans shorts. Not really Merc fan either. Thats just too easy a sterotype. If i was i wouldnt have praised max's driving this season or be so disappointed in ferrari for not bringing a challenge to max. Just want some integrity back in the sport. It seems to be going down the wrong route.
Ok we can agree on all that. I'm just sick of the toxicity on here to be honest, from both sets of fans, it's getting old real quick. Anyway apologies for singling you out mate.
 
red bull were caught in the most serious of sporting breaches since lance armstrong and were punished by the fia a couple of days ago. they lost 10% performance as the fia decided that’s how much their cheating gained them, and now they’re just as fast as everyone else.

Is this a piss take?
 
Not the most exciting of tracks, but I love the stadium feel and loud crowd that Mexico City brings to the table. I hope they manage to keep their spot in the future.
once perez goes it’ll be off the calendar I suspect
 
1,8m over 145m isn't 20%.

Also, if you are talking about just development, again, it has nothing to do with Hamilton this season since he has Ferrari guys and his teammate between him and Redbull which was what started this discussion initially few posts back.

Are you sure about that?
It’s incredible how much you’re arguing that them going over the budget doesn’t matter when you don’t even know basic facts about the issue :lol:

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2...-formula-one-budget-cap-breach-in-2021-season
 
Mexico GP Qualifying Times
Mexico City GP Qualifying Timesheet
DriverTeamTime
1) Max VerstappenRed Bull1:17.775
2) George RussellMercedes+0.304
3) Lewis HamiltonMercedes+0.309
4) Sergio PerezRed Bull+0.353
5) Carlos SainzFerrari+0.576
6) Valtteri BottasAlfa Romeo+0.626
7) Charles LeclercFerrari+0.780
8) Lando NorrisMcLaren+0.946
9) Fernando AlonsoAlpine+1.164
10) Esteban OconAlpine+1.235
Out in Q2
11) Daniel RicciardoMcLaren1:19.325
12) Zhou GuanyuAlfa Romeo1:19.476
13) Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri1:19.589
14) Pierre GaslyAlphaTauri1:19.672
15) Kevin MagnussenHaas1:19.833
Out in Q1
16) Mick SchumacherHaas1:20.419
17) Sebastian VettelAston Martin1:20.419
18) Lance StrollAston Martin1:20.520
19) Alex AlbonWilliams1:20.859
20) Nicholas LatifiWilliams1:21.167
 
once perez goes it’ll be off the calendar I suspect
Why, the atmosphere is electric, as seen yesterday it's a track that is extremely challenging for drivers and cars - every small mistake can cost you a lot. Which makes it super entertaining for the watchers also and haven't heard a single thing about drivers not enjoying it, they usually love those tough conditions.
 
All the Max/ Lewis stuff is boring, along with the Budget cap.
Time to get back to the racing.
On that subject i.e. racing. Whats the thoughts on new rules for this season? Yes cars can follow closer which is a positive. However the gap between front of the grid to the back looks as huge as ever. Personally i dont think scaling areo i.e. CFD and wind tunnel time wil work the way it was originally sold.

Honestly think F1 should try ballast, that would bring the front and the rear of the grid closer together.

It would stop the boredom of domination by a driver for a decade i.e. schmacher, hamilton and maybe verstappen (sorry pauldy i went there).
 
On that subject i.e. racing. Whats the thoughts on new rules for this season? Yes cars can follow closer which is a positive. However the gap between front of the grid to the back looks as huge as ever. Personally i dont think scaling areo i.e. CFD and wind tunnel time wil work the way it was originally sold.

Honestly think F1 should try ballast, that would bring the front and the rear of the grid closer together.

It would stop the boredom of domination by a driver for a decade i.e. schmacher, hamilton and maybe verstappen (sorry pauldy i went there).
F1 has always been donated by one for a period, don't really think that's a problem.
The problem is lack of competition
When Senna and Sch were winning, they have competition and good ones at that, ones that took the fight to them made them work hard
Last season Max and Lewis was in that vain, well right up to the last race , but not ging there agin.
Lewis only had that a few seasons, Rosberg being the main one, Seb won his 4 with not that much trouble.
The best season were the ones, with end of season races that meant something.
Much preferred the days of Senna , Prost, Hunt, Lauda, Mansall and others.
Closer racing is what we watch for, agreed the top teams are streets ahead of the rest, would ballast bring them closer, yes it would, but no way teams would agree to it.
F1 used to be all speed now its trye management, fuel management and aero and how to gain a 10th here a 100th there.
Wind tunnels and simulation don't always work, when Mercedes tested the skinny pods in the tunnel and in simulation, they must have worked then, but clearly in real life on the track they did not.
 
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Where exactly am I wrong? I read that article three times and I still fail to see it.
If you can’t tell the difference between 2021 and 2022, nobody can help you understand anything.

It’s literally in the first sentence of the article and the bloody url.