F1 2022 Season

Probably wasn’t a good idea for the FIA to hire Toto’s personal lawyer. Their integrity is going to come massively under the spotlight whether the claims are right or not.
I admire your determination to find fault and blame with everyone but Red Bull for Red Bull allegedly breaking the rules
 
I don’t think that retrospective point penalties would be good for the sport. I know that it probably makes sense to do that from a competitive point of view but it would be a foolish decision for f1 to change results now all these months down the line
totally disagree, if any team is found to be breeching the budget cap rules, then absolutely they should be punished to the fullest.
Not doing anything would be stupid, it would just mean the rest could do and say, well you never did anything to that team, why us.
Breaking the budget caps is cheating, pure and simple.
 
If their recent policy is anything to go by, they'll let it slide for RB and then change the rules for future incidents

“we are satisfied that red bull only did any spend over the budget gap, not all spend over the budget cap.”
 
Singapore FP3 Time Sheet
A rain hit FP3

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Horner is not happy and has every right to be, somebody has leaked the claims.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-b...on-drivers-title?postid=4562394#liveblog-body
If horner ever left RedBull, flavio briatorrie would be the perfect replacement as team prinicpal for RedBull, they are so alike.

Horner would be a great chairman for ffp cheats such as man city, barcelona or psg.

Agree that is obvious someone has leaked this info about last years spending. However this years spending will be under scrutinty as well as RedBull have a new chassis which ferrari and mercedes have both said is unaffordable under the cost cap at this point in the season.
 
totally disagree, if any team is found to be breeching the budget cap rules, then absolutely they should be punished to the fullest.
Not doing anything would be stupid, it would just mean the rest could do and say, well you never did anything to that team, why us.
Breaking the budget caps is cheating, pure and simple.

For example McLaren and Renault more or less got away with murder (and in Renault’s case almost literally), so it’s all nothing new. If RB are found guilty then the most likely outcome will be a similar penalty as with McLaren in their spygate scandal. I think the problem is more that F1 doesn’t clearly set out the punishment if certain rules are broken and everything gets twisted by lawyers, it all becomes very complicated by the way the rules are set & written.
 
So I signed up to the F1 fantasy using facebook, and trying to log in now, and I get this error:

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Tried on my phone as well
 
For example McLaren and Renault more or less got away with murder (and in Renault’s case almost literally), so it’s all nothing new. If RB are found guilty then the most likely outcome will be a similar penalty as with McLaren in their spygate scandal. I think the problem is more that F1 doesn’t clearly set out the punishment if certain rules are broken and everything gets twisted by lawyers, it all becomes very complicated by the way the rules are set & written.
Have to agree with @pauldy on this. People have been made redundant, there has been massive restructing off the track within the f1 teams to stay within the financial restrictions. A £5mil spend is equivalent to a seasons worth of inhouse developement on your race car. The book needs to be thrown at RB and AM if they are found guilty. Otherwise we will have ffp equivalent of financial doping ala man city and psg.
 
So I signed up to the F1 fantasy using facebook, and trying to log in now, and I get this error:

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Tried on my phone as well
RB tempering with evidence most likely
 
totally disagree, if any team is found to be breeching the budget cap rules, then absolutely they should be punished to the fullest.
Not doing anything would be stupid, it would just mean the rest could do and say, well you never did anything to that team, why us.
Breaking the budget caps is cheating, pure and simple.

I love Lewis and would love a retrospective penalty but I feel that f1 just can’t do it because of what it would do to the image of the sport after the crazy title race last year. I wouldn’t blame them either because in the end it’s a business as well which needs to protect its interests. I think a future penalty with the message that any team found guilty after this could get retrospective penalties will be the most likely outcome.
 
I don’t think that retrospective point penalties would be good for the sport. I know that it probably makes sense to do that from a competitive point of view but it would be a foolish decision for f1 to change results now all these months down the line
UEFA did it to Marseille when they cheated to win. They lost all their titles. The Olympics strip medals after the fact if someone is found to have cheated. It's the right thing to do. I don't think the FIA will do it because they are a joke.
 
I love Lewis and would love a retrospective penalty but I feel that f1 just can’t do it because of what it would do to the image of the sport after the crazy title race last year. I wouldn’t blame them either because in the end it’s a business as well which needs to protect its interests. I think a future penalty with the message that any team found guilty after this could get retrospective penalties will be the most likely outcome.
I think they absolutely must do it , if any team is found guilty.
Olympics' do it, cycling stripped Armstrong of all his titles, Italian football did it to Juventus, so there is plenty of president to strip titles.
 
UEFA did it to Marseille when they cheated to win. They lost all their titles. The Olympics strip medals after the fact if someone is found to have cheated. It's the right thing to do. I don't think the FIA will do it because they are a joke.
A far more apt comparison would be Juventus following Calciopoli, where the players (who did nothing wrong) didn’t lose out on their individual records however the team were reprimanded.

The Olympics comparison doesn’t hold up in any sense, in that every event that I can think of it would have to be a competitor cheating rather than their boss. Desperately trying to cling onto some way where Lewis wins the world title is pretty daft, it’s not like Max is the Red Bull accountant
 
A far more apt comparison would be Juventus following Calciopoli, where the players (who did nothing wrong) didn’t lose out on their individual records however the team were reprimanded.

The Olympics comparison doesn’t hold up in any sense, in that every event that I can think of it would have to be a competitor cheating rather than their boss. Desperately trying to cling onto some way where Lewis wins the world title is pretty daft, it’s not like Max is the Red Bull accountant
That is not something I am doing, I dont think it would be right, but cheating is cheating.
Max if I am being honest did deserve his win, strip the team of it, but letting Max keep it, could be an option.