Monza should be an absolute romp for Red Bull with their low drag car, even greater performance if they bring that new chassis there.
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To be fair, I'm not sure anyone really saw that..
Would be a pointless watch, if not to watch Ferrari make some serious stinkers in front of their home crowd. Heads to roll!
Yeah, I forgot that you Lewis fans understand all the details behind his every bad move.
You do realise that as a front driver at the same time he is able to warm up his tires the most because he controls the restart? Also it's literally one of shortest straights, you lot blamed Alonso in the last race because he didn't give any fight to Verstapen in fecking Alpine but when it's Lewis then it's not his fault.
It's hardly worth debating because of how little effect it would have on the result, but he could have had a chance of holding the first corner by warming the tyres as he liked but only restart the race just before the start line. There's not much track until the first corner and there would have been no tow for Max.
Sooner or later the safety car curse of abu dhabi will lift off hamilton.
Wrong call by the team not to put him on softs. Regardless the RB is such a rocketship that max would have passed hamilton and russell on track even if they were both ahead of him for a restart.
Only 7 races left till this dead season is over. Realistically singapore is now the only real chance left for mercedes to get a victory this season.
Wrong call by the team not to put him on softs. Regardless the RB is such a rocketship that max would have passed hamilton and russell on track even if they were both ahead of him for a restart.
Only 7 races left till this dead season is over. Realistically singapore is now the only real chance left for mercedes to get a victory this season.
It's in Merc tradition by now to leave Hamilton on old tires against Max on softs and then moan about it.
To be fair Max did the same last season, the championship "win" has really settled his nerves, and along with that he has the confidence this year of having the better car, and better team behind him.
Leclerc has to be perfect, and even then there's a decent chance his team will pull the rug out from under him with brain dead decisions.
Still given the Red Bull superiority, and that he doesn't have any competition from within his own team, its almost guaranteed he'll clean up the next few championships, unless there's a rule change to clip his wings like with Merc last year.
Abu Dhabi was absolutely the correct decision by Merc. You can’t plan for the ride director forgetting the rules. Today was a massive feck up
RB are bringing a lighter chassis to monza. It will be a snorefest unless max has a dnf. That RBs electrical motor deployment is something else.
Toto said in a straight fight vs Max on same tyres they wouldn’t have won today.
I’m assuming you’re talking about Abu Dhabi, where I sincerely doubt merc we’re expecting the safety car restart rules to fly out the window, they’d have been mental to pit Lewis at that point
It's not even up for a debate of his every bad move, it's a basic F1 fact that if there's a variance in tyre compounds then the softer will come to temperature quicker and the softer runner will have the advantage straight away. If you know what you're talking about you'll realise that the gap between the soft and medium at this race was one of the largest on the calendar, so performance difference on tyres alone would suggest Hamilton was a sitting duck. Put the car in between that discussion and the performance gap grows. No one will talk about it as it was some Hollywood F1 move, because it was fully expected.
You will be the only one to talk about it as you think it's an event, to most fans of F1 it was a non-event and inevitable. No idea what you're referencing regarding me posting about Alonso, if you can enlighten me? Regardless, you do you though.
Not entirely sure why you’re bothering….
Wasn't sure if it was Monza or Singapore as to when they'll bring it. If it's Monza then it wouldn't surprise me if there's a 0.5-0.75 gap in qualifying from Verstappen to P2.
Well Merc have ensured everyone has forgotten about Nelson Piquet Jr's go in the Alpha Tauri today.
Brilliant
Don't waste your time, you're debating with a troll effectively, he'll be suggesting that the Mercedes is the faster car next.
Childish, typical Verstappen fanboy
Great race that.
Russell earned the 2nd calling his own race.
Great by Max again.
Merc and Lewis too afraid to lose track position as they often are
Russell earned the 2nd calling his own race.
Great by Max again.
Merc and Lewis too afraid to lose track position as they often are
Apparently Lewis went on the radio and suggested to go to softs but Merc said they were staying on the medium ?
Herta a done deal to AT if he gets his SL. Anyone know much about him? I've seen bits on the highlights of IndyCar but can't say I've noticed much.
Regardless of what happened, just the teaser of mercedes providing a competitive car for hamilton to go up against max showed what f1 has been missing this year. Hopefully need season we get a proper round two over the season of max v lewis.
how exactly can you say that? indycar champion, tsunoda is nothing special
ah yes my bad sorry getting them mixed up.
Herta had a test in a Mclaren recently and did well, I think it’s more of a push to break into the american market anyway
I don't think that's coming till Singapore
Ferrari and merc pretty close in the constructors
Going to be exciting watching them find ways to throw points away and retire cars so that they can finish third and get more wind tunnel time
Based on Ferrari this season I'd back them to find a way to mess it up and finish third
Going to be exciting watching them find ways to throw points away and retire cars so that they can finish third and get more wind tunnel time
Based on Ferrari this season I'd back them to find a way to mess it up and finish third
For beating RB, not only must you have a fast car, you need a top class strategist, good leadership team and a fecking great pit crew
Max breezed past Lewis without DRS at the restart.
I can't imagine a scenario where neither Merc pits and they manage to keep Max behind.
And you've listed some of the things Ferrari are lacking.
The worst possible option Mercedes could have made was leaving Lewis and pitting Russell. Made no sense.
RB are even further ahead with strategy than even their dominant car and driver, although they also get a crazy amount of luck.
Lewis absolutely luckless yet again.
RB are even further ahead with strategy than even their dominant car and driver, although they also get a crazy amount of luck.
Lewis absolutely luckless yet again.
Honestly I don't think Mercedes were ever going to win today but they were very good for the majority of the race. Right up untill it mattered most. Then they fecked up monumentally by not putting Lewis on softs. It should have been a 2-3 for them today. He had every right to be upset but man did he lose it 
If that had been Max.. 
If that had been Max.. Yes the team decided to split the strategy. Toto said something like Lewis was only on 5 lap old tyres and it was worth a gamble and he was furthest car ahead.
I thought they should've brought them both in to secure second and third as you have to worry about Leclerc as well. Max sailed past without DRS. I just don't think it was ever on to fight Max, they had the beating of Ferrari and Perez and brought those guys back in the race.
The best strategy would have been to leave Max 1 and Russell 2.
Keep Russell within DRS range of Lewis and defend like that. Russell getting a draft + DRS would have given him enough of a chance to defend until Max's tyres got hot.
Unfortunately Mercedes still have the ego of being the best and trying to win without being smart.
The restart though? I can't believe Lewis would make such a dumb mistake. He gunned it at literally the WORST possible moment. Sheesh.
Max probably would have won anyway as his pace on the straights meant Lewis couldn’t defend, but the VSC came at the perfect time for Max ended Lewis’ chance of victory (almost a 30s swing to Max).
The SC should have probably been fairly neutral as everyone should have swapped onto softs, but it forced his team to make a decision which they got wrong, and cost Lewis a podium.
Lewis saying on the last restart he was in the wrong engine mode so was down on power which made it look even worse.
It's a shame tbh.
This season is a write off. Lfg from next season and hope ferrari and merc make improvements to their teams in all facets. Cant take another season of Red bull walking it. But due respect to Verstappen, True champion
Lewis using driver assists after lap1 incident.
Alpha Tauri could be in trouble. Radio message to yuki is basically telling him to drive out of the pits and stop on track. If he had stopped in the pits. The pit lane would have been closed and max wouldnt have been able to pit.
Probably more of a conspiracy at the moment on twitter. But i can see this getting bigger...
Probably more of a conspiracy at the moment on twitter. But i can see this getting bigger...