Its utterly inconceivable that Mercedes are only 30 points behind ferrari in the constructors championship. Especially after how bad Mercedes have been in thr first half of the season.
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I don't think you can say that about today. Leclerc isn't supposed to know where he will come out after he stops. He was leading the race and it's on the team to figure if the pit offset is enough to keep him ahead after the tyre offset.
I prefer Max winning anyway so it's good but i really feel sorry for him.
I think they stupidly thought Max wouldn’t be in their race today as he was starting in 10th, and they completely lost the plot when he was.
If I could get odds on Hamilton to be 2nd in the standings by season end I would take it.
mystic meg in the cockpit Leclerc actually said he wanted to take the mediums longer but they went for hards anyway.
Ferrari bottled it once again. Nothing Leclerc can do about that.
I was in stitches when they asked binotto if he was worried about verstappen’s pace on the pit wall back when he was 4th and he said no…he was clearly the big danger!
This tweet is very apt
He didn't say it in the race though that's the point. If you feel you can go long and they tell you to come in you are allowed to question it.
Leclerc actually said he wanted to take the mediums longer but they went for hards anyway.
Ferrari bottled it once again. Nothing Leclerc can do about that.
The driver has to feed the ontrack information to the team. If he says I'm good on this tyre, i dont need to pit they wont pit him but he just follows them blindly. Its a bad trait. The Red Bull drivers told their team even before the race started the soft wasn't warming up so they changed their hard tyre plan and adapted their strategy based off the input from the driver. It's not just the teams fault. I'm not saying he has do it all the time but if he can't take charge of a strategy or question anything he will keep losing.
Yeah I'm not saying he didn't drive well, but given how far ahead of the pack RB and Ferrari are in terms of pace, he was always gonna end up 3rd at minimum. Without the spin its fair to give it to him, as he did have the biggest position jump, but the fact that he could spin like that and still nobody could get near him was a damning indictment of the rest of the field.
Anyway DOTD or not he's had the championship sewn up for weeks, so I doubt he'd be too bothered about missing out on it!
Aside from the spin, quite masterful driving by Max and as always RBR were very astute.
How do you know? you're not privy to every single radio call.
Leclerc says he did tell the team that during the race.
Nah even with the spin Max was driver of the day.
Iam no Max fan, but credit where it is due, bided his time, drove a very nature race.
These new regs are amazing. Lot's of overtakes on a tight track like this. It's great.
Ferrari wow
Max wow
Ferrari wow
Max wow
Russell, Verstappen and Hamilton laughing at Ferrari on the hards in the cool down was pretty funny and a fair summary of the race.
According to Toto on sky after the race the they didn't have any mediums left.
I dunno, he basically didn't have any competition, Ferrari self immolated as usual and no other cars are near his pace wise.
Like I said, he drove well, but nothing exceptional, he made a mistake but wasn't punished because Ferrari are a joke and no other cars are near his.
As I said though, it's immaterial as the WDC has been his for weeks.
So? Could and should have done the same strategy as Lewis and Sainz.
They got rattled by Max and Red Bull and tried to match them even though they started on different strategy.
Hardly. They would be closer, of course, but certainly not coasting. Better strategists wouldn't prevent their engines from exploding.
Yeah George even said he felt sorry for Leclerc in his media interview post race. It's incredible
Sainz and Leclerc would both be up at the top every race. Perez is hit and miss for RB so they’d be easily ahead constructer wise.
Yes, for constructors you may be right. I was thinking you meant Leclerc leading Verstappen in the drivers. And if I recall correctly, both Sainz and Leclerc have certainly dropped plenty of points through driver errors as well.
In any case, it is a big shame that the top three teams are not at least somewhat equal in terms of strategy. You have to feel for Leclerc every time Ferrari takes positions from him.
I think Leclerc would probably be leading too with better strat and team too. You don’t make as many mistakes when you have a good team around you that help you rather than hinder you. You don’t have to push as much to fight against their shit.
It's all their own making, I am not excusing anything.
I think you would be hard pressed to find 80 points lost for Leclerc that you could attribute to the Ferrari strategy team.
Great driving from Max, and great driving from Hamilton in the final part of the race. Leclerc another brilliant race, probably the fastest driver today, started 3rd - finished 6th! Amazing stuff!
For a start, Ferrari need to make sure Leclerc is driver no. 1 because Sainz obviously doesn't have it in him, and he should help him as more as possible. Regarding tactics, I seriously doubt they can improve. But the good thing is that they can't be worse than this.
That was actually the most amazing part of their strategy. They saw Max pitting and they pitted him immediately for some reason. Not only they opted for Hard, but they pitted him at least 10 laps earlier than they should have considering be was very gentle on his tyres even in his first stint and lasted the longest.
For a start, Ferrari need to make sure Leclerc is driver no. 1 because Sainz obviously doesn't have it in him, and he should help him as more as possible. Regarding tactics, I seriously doubt they can improve. But the good thing is that they can't be worse than this.
That was actually the most amazing part of their strategy. They saw Max pitting and they pitted him immediately for some reason. Not only they opted for Hard, but they pitted him at least 10 laps earlier than they should have considering be was very gentle on his tyres even in his first stint and lasted the longest.
Upto 5th in the superbru thing. That’s was a tough weekend to get things right.
Merc with pole and fastest lap is good to see, was happy with that.
Brilliant from verstappen, just made it look so easy gradually cruising to the front and staying there with ease, I’ve come to terms with him winning the dc now, there’s no real competition to him
But he’s doing his bit more than good enough to be fair
Good drive from vettel too
Merc with pole and fastest lap is good to see, was happy with that.
Brilliant from verstappen, just made it look so easy gradually cruising to the front and staying there with ease, I’ve come to terms with him winning the dc now, there’s no real competition to him
But he’s doing his bit more than good enough to be fair
Good drive from vettel too
Ferraris super computer needs binning.
Clearly they panicked and thought covering Max was the right idea, but completely ignored the hard tyre was dogshit for the majority of the field.
Only really Norris managed to put it on and not completely shit the bed, I think his car was setup for wet weather conditions as he burned through his soft set pretty quick.
Clearly they panicked and thought covering Max was the right idea, but completely ignored the hard tyre was dogshit for the majority of the field.
Only really Norris managed to put it on and not completely shit the bed, I think his car was setup for wet weather conditions as he burned through his soft set pretty quick.
as I said. Mistakes come with being frustrated at the team too. Add in that Sainz is more capable in the Ferrari than Perez in the RB and you’d have a team that can take on Max. Lewis was helped out by Bottas at times to chip away at point tallies.
Cool down room today.
The laughs at the end when Lewis questions Ferrari's true choice...
Fernando Alonso lap 1 team radio after the squeeze at the wall by his teammate:
“If we both finish the race in the race, it's because of me.”
“If we both finish the race in the race, it's because of me.”
Hamilton still got it. Max and Lewis still the best on the grid.
Ferrari messing up again but it's been errors all round. The drivers and team will have to develop the winning formula, both aspects look quite raw.
Ferrari messing up again but it's been errors all round. The drivers and team will have to develop the winning formula, both aspects look quite raw.
I find Max very difficult to warm to, likely because I find Horner insufferable and whiny. He’s a very good driver though, I can’t deny that but he seems slightly more mature and level headed this year with his driving.
Probably a big factor is the fact he’s got daylight between him and the rest of the pack in the championship
Probably a big factor is the fact he’s got daylight between him and the rest of the pack in the championship
Yeah perhaps the actual f1 teams are supposed to have more resources to calculate the correct strategy than a tire maker. All teams but one that is.
I find a large part of it is because he's got Marko, Horner and his dad in his corner, all grade idiots who stir the pot. I think lot of it from Max last year was probably them winding him up.
Pirelli has data from all the teams... Even ignoring that, and using your own sims and data... they only needed to look at the Alpines sliding down the grid.
Yeah it’s down to the team, even Vettel came across a complete twat whilst he was driving with them, totally changed my opinion on him once he left the team. Said it a few days ago but Max will become a more likeable figure once he leaves RBR.
Hamilton was about 15 seconds behind Leclerc I think when Max pitted for the second time. Lewis ended up 8 seconds behind Max. If Leclerc had just followed the right strategy he wins that race easily. In a season of bad decisions, that was Ferrari’s worst.
Not 100% sure, Sainz pace on softs was poor and Charles was aswell when he switched off the hards. I think Max would of undercut them anyway and then Feraris just had no pace on the softs to get anywhere near him in the final stint. Lewis was taking 1sec or more out of Sainz on the same tyres.
Jesus I just realised I thought the exact same. Couldn’t stand Vettel at RBR but realised he was a cool guy at Ferrari onwards…
…must be RBR.