So are Red Bull the only team who haven't followed protocol and shown their actual car yet?
F1 2022 Season
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Interesting.
So far have watched the Ferrari, Mercedes, Mclaren and Aston Martin aero analysis videos. Obviously real cars could still be quite different from what they have shown. However the Aston Martin is by far the most interesting and intriguing as they have a number of features which are definitely in the grey area of legality. All teams have something which they will have to argue with fia over its legality. Aston have more than most.
No-one has actually shown their car. Renders have bits that have been airbrushed out (as they are probably innovative) or fake bits put it to throw other team off the scent.
Videos of the dummy cars again probably have bits hidden and missing.
The first test is in 3 days time, we will see all the cars out on track, with all their bits and pieces for real.
Is this really their livery? It is awful
edit: just googled, seems like a special livery.
The FIA has confirmed that this year's F1 sporting regulations no longer feature the rule that required the top ten drivers in qualifying to start their race on their fastest Q2 tyre compound.
The rule had been present in Formula 1's sporting code since 2014 and was intended to instill some jeopardy into qualifying by encouraging some drivers to opt for a harder compound in Q2 in a bid to start their race potentially among the top ten with a different and better strategy.
However, over the years, the rule rarely led to strategy variation among F1's top teams.
Thus, the rule stating that "at the start of the race each car which qualified for Q3 must be fitted with the tyres with which the driver set his fastest time during Q2" has been abandoned.
From now on, all drivers making it into Q3 will have – like the remainder of the field – a free choice of rubber for the start of the race, as was the case last year during those F1 race weekends that featured a sprint qualifying trial.
I think I would prefer the rule kept in to be honest.
The rule had been present in Formula 1's sporting code since 2014 and was intended to instill some jeopardy into qualifying by encouraging some drivers to opt for a harder compound in Q2 in a bid to start their race potentially among the top ten with a different and better strategy.
However, over the years, the rule rarely led to strategy variation among F1's top teams.
Thus, the rule stating that "at the start of the race each car which qualified for Q3 must be fitted with the tyres with which the driver set his fastest time during Q2" has been abandoned.
From now on, all drivers making it into Q3 will have – like the remainder of the field – a free choice of rubber for the start of the race, as was the case last year during those F1 race weekends that featured a sprint qualifying trial.
I think I would prefer the rule kept in to be honest.
Thats a bad decision. Surely the tyre you qualify on in q3 should be the tyre you start the race on as a minimum.
Would be really good to see Ferrari and McLaren bridge the gaps and compete. Think the sport needs it after the final race fiasco. Quite like Sainz and Norris too.
Its a wierd thing that car manufacturers normally put on their cars when testing them so you cant ascertain all the various angle and lines etc. You see it occasionally in f1 before the start of the season but not often.
Mixed opinion but it was annoying when Mercedes (and sometimes the other teams) were so far ahead they could qualify on a harder tyre to start the race with during Q2. It was a disadvantage for those in 5-10 qualifying on a softer tyre whilst on race day the driver in 11th could pick the compound for the best race strategy.
The potential problem is if we still see 1 stop races or low degradation plus difficulty in overtaking, it will lead to the same strategy for everyone and a boring race. Hopefully the new rules and tyres will put a stop to that and make it so qualifying is about the fastest drivers in order.
I just wouldnt give the guys in q3 another tyre and just tell them that the tyre used in q3 is their race starting tyre.
That would add alot more strategy into the mix. Do you go for pole on softs on a track with high deg? Or do you sacrifice pole and maybe a position in top 5 on the grid for the GP, knowing you have the tyre with lower deg?
Also not giving them a spare tyre for q3, would mean they wouldnt be able to do as much qually sim running in FP2/FP3 and that would add more uncertainty into the mix.
That would add alot more strategy into the mix. Do you go for pole on softs on a track with high deg? Or do you sacrifice pole and maybe a position in top 5 on the grid for the GP, knowing you have the tyre with lower deg?
Also not giving them a spare tyre for q3, would mean they wouldnt be able to do as much qually sim running in FP2/FP3 and that would add more uncertainty into the mix.
It would also massivley increase the risk of somebody trying to run a set of tyres a few laps too long and causing an accident
So I can see why the teams and fia might be against that
I'd personally like to see it back to 1 flying lap for each driver ala senna era
just bring back refueling
I know very little about the technical side of F1 but even I can see this is a sexy, sexy car. Would love to see a competitive Ferrari this season!
They have some really interesting features on their car. Mainly from the photos on F1 technical Ferrari style sidepots with louvers, separated sharkfin with cooling under it, down washing end plates on front wing.
Haas seem to have spent the extra time in the wind tunnel to good use. Interesting that they have similar side pods to Ferrari
It is interesting but everything is just a guessing game until the first race. Maybe new designs will work (like Ferrari, Hass, Aston Martin so far) or a car which is more evolution off old understandings based on previous cars and for these reason more refined like Merc will be mich faster.
Max should just stick a giant asterisk (*) on his helmet truth be told.
Haas has more windtunnel time this year than any other team. Mercedes have the least.
Brilliant, pretty much.
Or line up on the grid, just before the lights go out get michael masi to come out scrub off any silver and paint it gold.
Then max asks "why?" And masi replies "because im a xenophobic, racist aussie, no black guy is winning the world title on my watch."
Brilliant analysis of the cars before they're completely different for Bahrain
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Reading this brings me joy.
2 totally difference cars
I know that's why I said what I said
Choosing gold and number 1 after the joke of his win(*) last season, is exactly what we would expect from him. It once again demonstrates his lack of class.
I am sure he wakes up at 4am and knows that he didn't really win it fair n square -- without Uncle Masi' help at least.
Much as I dislike Max and my distaste at the way he was effectively handed the WC on a plate, I have to agree with Lewis Hamilton. You can't blame Max. He did exactly what any other driver would have done and took maximum advantage of the situation that was presented to him.
That rule purely made it easier for the fastest cars to remain the fastest in the race.
Slower teams would have to use every bit of performance required to scrape into the top 10, where the likes of Mercedes and Red bull could stick on the medium tyres and breeze through it.
That meant even if the likes of a Williams managed to get 10th place, they'd be stuck on the soft tyre while all their main rivals behind them would be on mediums. Within 12 laps theyve destroyed their tyres and are holding up the pack.
Giving everybody free tyre choice is a much better way of doing it. This way if somebody wants to take a gamble and put softs on, they can. If they want to go longer in the race they can.
Surprised he doesn't have a grinning image of Masi at the back!
What they really need to do is stop the mandatory tires bullshit each race. Give teams a fixed numbers of tires over the season and let them sort it out how to manage them over the season.
Run out of tires, get new ones with race penalties / point deductions. Ruin somebody's tires because of your stupidity, great now you'll get double penalty while the other driver gets a free set of new tires without any penalty.
That'll stop drivers from doing stupid shit because it's going to cost them a lot over a season and we can watch actual racing instead of dirty driving.
The funny thing is Red Bull fans really don't know why a merc would be silver 
They probably also think Ferrari's are red so Max can see them easier when being waved past.
They probably also think Ferrari's are red so Max can see them easier when being waved past.