F1 2022 Season

dinostar77 said:
Apparently both lewis and george have backpain from yesterday. God knows how they will get through a GP. I think both Mercedes might retire as they will destroy their floors during the race.
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Back pain is just horrible, when it hits you, nothing you can do.
Somebody posted the other day about FIA getting involved (sorry forgot who) and at the time I disagreed, but thinking more about it, driver heath has to come in to it, both Merc drivers are going to take a beating today and with Canada next weekend, it will be a struggle for them.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Back pain is just horrible, when it hits you, nothing you can do.
Somebody posted the other day about FIA getting involved (sorry forgot who) and at the time I disagreed, but thinking more about it, driver heath has to come in to it, both Merc drivers are going to take a beating today and with Canada next weekend, it will be a struggle for them.
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I see your point, but at the same time I agree with the people saying it's mainly the Mercs struggling that hard. Others have bouncing as well, but Mercedes seems way more all over the place than the rest of the field. So it should be their responsibility regarding driver safety to bring the bouncing to the level of other (non-RB) teams before the FIA should step in
 
hellhunter said:
I see your point, but at the same time I agree with the people saying it's mainly the Mercs struggling that hard. Others have bouncing as well, but Mercedes seems way more all over the place than the rest of the field. So it should be their responsibility regarding driver safety to bring the bouncing to the level of other (non-RB) teams before the FIA should step in
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I also see your point and it is down to Mecedes to get it sorted.
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, rise the ride hight loss speed or stay the same and damage the car/drivers.
 
I wonder what creative way Ferrari will screw over Leclerc today.
 
hellhunter said:
I see your point, but at the same time I agree with the people saying it's mainly the Mercs struggling that hard. Others have bouncing as well, but Mercedes seems way more all over the place than the rest of the field. So it should be their responsibility regarding driver safety to bring the bouncing to the level of other (non-RB) teams before the FIA should step in
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Sainz has also been complaining. As has Ocon and Alonso. Obviously drivers have their own vested interests in complaining.

Russell as head of drivers association has been particularly vocal that there is no need to run the floors so low to the ground and the fia should introduce a minimum ride height for all teams. Obviously if he was in a red bull he probably wouldnt be saying anything. Usual swings and roundabouts.

The biggest concern is that a driver could potentially be seriously injured or even killed as the bouncing at 200mph is so bad they cant make anything out on the track. Other non Mercedes drivers have said this as well. God knows what they will do at Canada as that surface is worse than Baku.
 
Dan said:
Sainz seems to be one raising the issue more than anyone else.

https://www.racefans.net/2022/06/12...to-tackle-very-painful-effects-of-porpoising/
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I asked this before, but if FIA do get involved, what do they do ?
Make all team rise their ride hight ? bring in active suspension ?
Making teams rise ride hight is unfair to teams that have got a handle on the bouncing, Red Bull for example.
Active suspension would seem like that obvious cure for all without affecting ride hight, but cost caps will stop teams developing this , will it not?
Its is clear that Mecedes have the most problems with the bouncing but other are not far behind.
 
Superb video btw, have to watch on youtube. Bloody fia. How suspension works on this years cars. Mick Schmachers crash had the unforseen bonus of allowing everyone to see the rear suspension setup of the haas (same as used by ferrari apparently). Normally its hidden from view but as the gear box detached from the rest of the car in monaco we got a look.

Now if only we could get to see RB and Mercedes rear suspension setups...

 
pauldyson1uk said:
I asked this before, but if FIA do get involved, what do they do ?
Make all team rise their ride hight ? bring in active suspension ?
Making teams rise ride hight is unfair to teams that have got a handle on the bouncing, Red Bull for example.
Active suspension would seem like that obvious cure for all without affecting ride hight, but cost caps will stop teams developing this , will it not?
Its is clear that Mecedes have the most problems with the bouncing but other are not far behind.
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The 18inch tyres are playing a part as well. The 13inch tyres were absorbing some of the impact of the tracks. Mass dampers would probably be the easier to introduce next season rather than fric or active suspension.

Honestly we need to see a RB have a crash similar to schmachers to see what RB have done with their rear suspension. Whatever the setup with the heave springs, torsion bars, rockers and dampers they have configured its working an absolute treat.
 
dinostar77 said:
The 18inch tyres are playing a part as well. The 13inch tyres were absorbing some of the impact of the tracks. Mass dampers would probably be the easier to introduce next season rather than fric or active suspension.

Honestly we need to see a RB have a crash similar to schmachers to see what RB have done with their rear suspension. Whatever the setup with the heave springs, torsion bars, rockers and dampers they have configured its working an absolute treat.
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Would love to see RB suspension set up.

WOW did Toto just say that Lewis might not be able to physical finish the race !!
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Starting the race will be fine, painkillers and some physio will be helping no doubt, I think Toto was more on about has the race goes on.
Bouncing around at 200 mph will be mental, I know my back would not stand it for a whole race.
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If he is not in a good shape that's a risk as the race goes on, even before he decides to retire.
 
Ferrari are going to get eaten on the straights, it will be 1 and 2 for RBR.
 
needs more one of the bottom three to give us a safety car to spice things up. luckily there is no way at least one of them isn’t going to stick it in a wall.
 
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